Personal Freedoms and Second Hand SmokeFollow

How is making an exception to an air travel ban in the name of the children a "loss of freedom"?

The ban itself is perhaps a loss of said freedom. Being able to take children's medicine on board is just the opposite.

How was I supposed to know that the one time I invite you over for hotpockets was going to be the day mom decided to clean the basement? You are just bitter because she whipped your *** at Tekken.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

The Iraq War - For the Children.

Has a nice ring to it.

Coming out of the closet Joph?

I like this law. I think it will be overly tedious to carry it out though. People want to cry about their personal rights, those same people are selfish, self centered and generally pains in the asses. The "Man" is not out to get you. He is out to try to help those who cant help themselves though. A child cannot tell a parent to not lite up. A child cannot open the door to the house or the car and just run off while Mommy and Daddy lite up.

I can just see it now, "I'm sorry I increased your chances of lung cancer, Son. I just didnt want my personal freedoms to be taken away."

Or better yet, "It's the scented toilet paper that contributed to your lung cancer, Son. We both know that the second hand smoke theory isnt founded.".

What about your kids rights? If by you not being able to smoke in the car is big brother over stepping his boundaries, what is it when you submit your innocent child to harmful second hand smoke?

I agree. Generally.

Don't tell me what I can and can't do. But *do* tell those mutha effers that want to smoke around my kids to knock it off.

It's all about the gray areas.

First of **** every smoker all over the world, you disgusting smelling, tar kissing, arrogant sons of ********

Smokers have never cared about anyones rights but their own, hell I had some dopey smoking ***** in front of me at the pedestrian crossing and took a drag, blew it in the air straight into me face.

Frankly if you need to smoke, go get a gun and shoot yourself you will save us all a lot of money when you lungs shrivel up and you can't talk.

Joph you disappoint me you sounded like a sock for gbaji at times. Are you drinking George W's kool-aid?

That and Viagra of course

The only California Smoking Law I have a problem with is smoking in bars.


Now, in a dance club, sure, I'll give that to you, but a bar? Come on. I know plenty of non-smokers that expect it in a bar; smoking and drinking at a bar... Just goes hand-in-hand like socks and shoes.


As for smoking with children in the car. Personally, I don't think it should be done, however I don't think it's the States place to say how people choose to raise their children. If I had children I wouldn't smoke around them just because reasons DSD listed.

In many of the cities in California, the air quality is so damn poor that smoking around children is seemingly a pointless worry. In my area, I haven't seen "Excellent" air quality on the news since I got here; that covers 7 years.

Edited, Sep 13th 2006 at 4:27am EDT by Rimesume

oops

Edited, Sep 13th 2006 at 5:27am EDT by Patrician

Yep and the Base doctors say we all had bad colds each October.

Moving back east improve my 3 girls health greatly. Only one shown signs of asthma or very bad allergies since we moved back. We also had a problem with fungal infections while living in Lemoore, as long as they were in diapers. Youngest was still in diapers when we moved away and the problem clear up completely.

But then there were clear days, when I could see the mountains from the back windows. Lived right at the edge of base on Philippine Sea, during first tour there.

Banning smoking, anywhere, is justified.

Don't use that "free will" crap, it's just common sense for christ sake.

Good move, but like many have said, the ban might not be enough to make people actualy not smoke.

[************* you and the weak-lunged little **** accidents you call kids.

Now that we have our introductions behind us, I just wanted to point out how superior the Chuck Palahniuk quote in my sig is compared to the over-used emo-adopted one you carry. No offense meant toward your kids, I just find it in poor taste to comment solely on a poster's sig, while ignoring the topic at hand. You understand, I'm sure.[/quote]

Wow, grampa, you missed your daily rum ***** today. You seem cranky. I have just the thing for you ... a nice long ride in a Geo Metro with 3 chainsmokers. Don't worry, there won't be any kids in there ;-)

Lucky for you, I didn't even read the quote. I, like many others, saw it in the movie. Not only that, I'm pretty sure I ****** it up too. I still like it, though, so I think I'ma keep it awhile yet. I'll let you know when I get something else so you can tell me whether it suits your taste.

Edited, Sep 14th 2006 at 8:25am EDT by sulleih