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#27 Sep 08 2006 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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Or is this one of those "If you think we did something wrong, you want Saddam to rape little girls" things?

Why do you hate little girls?


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I guess my reading comp must be "teh suxorz", but I don't remember seeing anyone say that Sadam was a great guy, comperable to a CareBear.

If the only reason we went over to Iraq was because he was such a meany, then why aren't we liberating the people of Cuba, or China, or Vietnam, or Poland?

- Cuba is next,
- China's too big. We are not stupid; we are making them addicted to our capilist economy and then we will use that as leverage against the commies later,
- Vietnam, we did that and left too early, but whole other can of worms that one,
- Poland? What the... Poland was already freed by Ronnie when he enginered the collapse of the Soviets by forcing them to try and keep up with our massive military build up and therefore bankrupting the soviet economy.

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- China's too big, we are not stupid, we are making them addicted to our capilist econmy
Sure, now they're gonna use up all of our oil Smiley: mad
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#29 Sep 08 2006 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Sure, now they're gonna use up all of our oil

Yeah that is a big problem down the road. The price of steel and cement have already gone through the roof due to the increased chinese demand becasue of their city building campaigns. When their population starts demanding more clean drinking water, more cars, more food per acre due to feterlizer, more electricity etc. The increase in Oil demand from it will send the price of oil up alot. So don't stop buying those hybrid cars just cause the price of gas is going down right now.

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#30 Sep 08 2006 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Man, I'm not hating on Poland. I want to see your people freed from the evil tyrant than made them get on sub's with screen doors.


I got fuckin nothin. Let me just go home and drink.
#31 Sep 08 2006 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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hat there was never any connection between the Iraqi leader and terrorists


Saddam wasn't handing out 20,000 dollars to the families of muslim nutters that strapped on bomb vests to go kill innocent women and children? huh.
#32 Sep 08 2006 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
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Saddam wasn't handing out 20,000 dollars to the families of muslim nutters that strapped on bomb vests to go kill innocent women and children? huh.
Gross stupidity on this scale should be illegal.

For the sake of future generations Abadd, do not have children.
#33 Sep 08 2006 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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hat there was never any connection between the Iraqi leader and terrorists


Saddam wasn't handing out 20,000 dollars to the families of muslim nutters that strapped on bomb vests to go kill innocent women and children? huh.


See. Now that's the problem though. Semantic bait and switch if you will. Bush says something like "Iraq is an important front on the war on terror", and Libs respond with "but there was no formal connection between Saddam and Al-qaeda!!!".

Wait! Is this yet another false dilemma? Why yes. I think it is...


When Snow says this is nothing new, he's not kidding. Nothing in that report is unknown. Nothing in that report was not already reported on and analysed. In fact, I recall us having this exact discussion last year about the same thing. The issue is twofold. First, does an "informal" connection still represent a significant enough connection? Second, do we assume that Al-qeada == "terrorists" when discussing the issue? If you look at many speeches by Bush, and in fact at the resolution upon which we went to war with Iraq, you'll see lots of statements like this one:

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supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;


does not say which ones, but the fact that it's plural should be the first hint that we're not limiting this to just Al-qaeda.

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Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;


True statement. Note, that there's no statement that they're working with the Iraq government at all.

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Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;


Look! There's the pluralized "terrorist organizations" thing again. Can't just be talking about Al-qaeda. In fact, does not even state that Al-qaeda is any of the organizations being aided.

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Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;



Oooh! They mentioned 9/11!!! But, they didn't say that Iraq had anything to do with it, only that the attack wakes up the US to the potential of other attacks, which might include WMDs if a country like Iraq is allowed to continue the way they currently are. Again. No mention of Al-qaeda.

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Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;


Note the wording here. This is kinda everything above in a nutshell. Where is the assumption that Al-qaeda and Iraq are working together? Oh yeah. It's just plain not there...



The reason so many people believe that our government made its case for war in Iraq by tying Iraq and Al-qaeda together is because those opposed to war with Iraq made every effort they could to convince people that the government was making that case. They twisted and re-interpreted the words of the Bush administration in order to convince people of that connection. By arguing against a connection between the two, they convinced people that the "other side" was arguing that there was a connection between the two. Kind of a strawmman, but that's typical...

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#34 Sep 08 2006 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Look....we got bombed during a Republican presidency slightly due to the inactions of a Democratic waste of space. We needed to flex some muscles, Afghans were sh'it, so Saddam was the next closest thing. He was a prick, we kicked his ***.
The end.

#35 Sep 08 2006 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
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Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations


So the "aquisition of weapons of mass destruction"......

If airplanes are WMD's then America is chock full of those my friend.
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Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations


So the "aquisition of weapons of mass destruction"......

If airplanes are WMD's then America is chock full of those my friend.


No. The use of planes as weapons should make any rational person start to think of other methods that might be used to kill people. At the top of the list of those other methods are things like biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. If 20ish guys can hijack 4 planes and kill 3000 people, what can *one* person with a case of high quality sarin gas do? Or that same one person with a small nuke?


That's what that paragraph means. And it makes Iraq suddenly a very significant issue, given its past development and use of those types of weapons.
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#37 Sep 08 2006 at 10:55 PM Rating: Good
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US President George W Bush has said that the presence of late al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq before the war was evidence of a link.


I'd just like to say that Al Zarqawi spend a significant amount of time in San Jose prior to the 9-11 attacks. If proximity and and visits are an indictment, we really should be bombing California right now....

heeyyyyy... damn republican agenda. Run Sami run!

#38 Sep 09 2006 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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No. The use of planes as weapons should make any rational person start to think of other methods that might be used to kill people


Complete stupidity and fear-mongering... I could kill someone with a pen, does that mean we should ban pens from America? I could kill you with a piece of paper if it really came down to it. If 20ish guys can hijack one plane imagine what 200,000 schoolchildren can do with pens and paper?

OH NO!!!!! Children must write in govt. accesible computer networks only so we can track the infidels at an early age! No you tool. They used our floating bombs agaisnt us and you are surprised? How bout this.. Instead of arguing semantics let's just see you join the Army and see how fast they discharge you. Hell, they could make a pool on the Asylum over it.

Except the lowest number would win HAHAHA. You preach so high of you "Democratic, peace loving government while you sit on the sidelines killing our soldiers. Who for that matter are warring for nothing but to save face at this point.

If you think that this "lolWar" is so important how come i dont see you posting from Iraq?
**** off and live a sick unfunded life for that is what you are wishing upon all of us with your idiocy. I am happy you can only cast one vote as i will consider mine nothing but negating your monumental stupidity
#39 Sep 09 2006 at 5:48 AM Rating: Decent
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gbaji continually wrote:

semantic bait and switch

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yet another false dilemma

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Kind of a strawmman, but that's typical...
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#40 Sep 10 2006 at 12:21 AM Rating: Default
As, reported by the BBC.

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The revelation comes from a 2005 CIA report released by the Senate's Un-American Intelligence Committee


Fixed. See no Amnesty. Hear no Amnesty.

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Edited, Sep 10th 2006 at 1:25am EDT by MonxDoT
#41 Sep 11 2006 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Note the wording here. This is kinda everything above in a nutshell. Where is the assumption that Al-qaeda and Iraq are working together? Oh yeah. It's just plain not there...



The reason so many people believe that our government made its case for war in Iraq by tying Iraq and Al-qaeda together is because those opposed to war with Iraq made every effort they could to convince people that the government was making that case. They twisted and re-interpreted the words of the Bush administration in order to convince people of that connection. By arguing against a connection between the two, they convinced people that the "other side" was arguing that there was a connection between the two. Kind of a strawmman, but that's typical...


Well why not? What would be more perfect than insinuating to the masses what they couldn't say without being called out for it. They can always hide behind the faithful such as yourself to defend them, after all, they never did lie.

So why did all the morons I have to associate with say, "well when Iraq bombed the World Trade Center...", even 2 or 3 years after that day? Say what you will about what was really said, of course Washington wouldn't be so careless as to make a blatant lie, but you cannot deny all of the people who saw and probably see still the connection as exisiting. I remember some poll where over 50% of FOX News viewers believed there was a link between Iraq and the attack.

Just need to make some remarks about 9/11 and people will be so scared that they will agree to anything, as long as it will make them safer. Fear, the ultimate tool and weapon for Washington. So are we safer Gbaji? The number of terrorists in Iraq have increased over threefold since we first invaded. I'll leave with that thought.
#42 Sep 11 2006 at 4:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well why not? What would be more perfect than insinuating to the masses what they couldn't say without being called out for it. They can always hide behind the faithful such as yourself to defend them, after all, they never did lie.


Or the opposite. Assume a deeper meaning to everything that is said. Interprete it in as damaging a manner possible. Then hold those making the statements to the interpretation instead of what was actually said.

Look. There's no easy answer to this. Certainly, I'm one of the first who will point at something that is said and argue that "reading between the lines" is important. How many times have I railed against the media for using language that while not technically lying, is designed to get the maximum people possible to come to a misleading/incorrect conclusion?

However, the flip side is valid as well. It's equally misleading to assume that someone must be saying something other then what they actually said simply because it *can* be interpreted that way. You have to look at a balance of issues. And on the whole Iraq<->Al-qaeda connection, I see far less language by the Bush administration tying the two tightly together then I see by the opposition trying really really hard to interpret the Bush administration's statements that way.

Which one causes people to believe the falsehood? The Bush administration official making a statement about Iraq "supporting terrorist groups"? Or the opposition OP-ED writer who interprets terrorist groups to mean Al-qaeda and immediately bashes that official for "lying about a connection between Iraq and Al-qaeda"? Which of those two messages impacts public opinion on the issue more?

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So why did all the morons I have to associate with say, "well when Iraq bombed the World Trade Center...", even 2 or 3 years after that day? Say what you will about what was really said, of course Washington wouldn't be so careless as to make a blatant lie, but you cannot deny all of the people who saw and probably see still the connection as exisiting. I remember some poll where over 50% of FOX News viewers believed there was a link between Iraq and the attack.


It wasn't just Fox News viewers (although I suppose it would be nice from your viewpoint to assume that). The poll was done back in 2002 IIRC, and was population wide. Interestingly enough, the statement that most people point to as the "cause" of that belief was made by Cheney during a Dateline interview in which he was asked to comment on the statistic. In otherwords, there is no point at which you can find any member of the Bush administration even speculating about a connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks prior to that point, and that first one was in response to the polls showing roughly 50% of the population thought that Iraq was somehow involved.

The government didn't put that idea in people's heads. A whole bunch of speculative news "special investigative reports" did. The media can be squarely blamed for that one.

You don't buy the "media hyped Iraq as a possible backer of the attacks?" angle? I'm not sure why that's hard to believe. Care to guess what percentage of the US population believe in alien UFOs and abductions? Which do you think helps feed that idea? The government? Or the media? It's just not that hard of an observation to make. By your argument, the fact that so many people believe something requires that the government tell them to believe it. But that's easily and demonstrably disproven with the alien example. Clearly, large percentages of the population can come to believe something without the government saying anything to make them believe so (and in fact with numerous and long standing denials of such things by the government in the case of alien stuff).


But you go on believing that it's all the Bush administration's fault. I'm sure they're to blame for Bigfoot as well...

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Just need to make some remarks about 9/11 and people will be so scared that they will agree to anything, as long as it will make them safer. Fear, the ultimate tool and weapon for Washington. So are we safer Gbaji? The number of terrorists in Iraq have increased over threefold since we first invaded. I'll leave with that thought.


Most of the fearmongering after 9/11 has come from the left trying to make people afraid of the Bush administration. Just saying. I've *never* felt that any statement by the Bush administration was designed to make me "afraid" of terrorists. But if I had a dollar for every time a Liberal pundit essentially tried to convince me that Bush was "evil" and would take away all the kid's lolipops or something, I'd be a very very rich man.
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#43 Sep 12 2006 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Gbaji, there were basically only two justifications that would lead to the general populace to support for the war on Iraq (certainly in the UK, and I speculate the same is true in the US). Those two justifications are:

1) Iraq were proven to be stockpiling WMD and intended to use them
2) Iraq were supporting and arming al-Qaeda specifically

I do not believe it was an accident that the resolution to go to war, and speeches by Blair and Bush, were written to not categorically prove either, but still in such a way to mislead the public that both were true.

For example, you argue that the quote below from the resolution is a true statement that does not go on to state that Al Quaida and the Iraqi government are in cahoots.

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Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;


Fine. Why then is its inclusion as a statement in a resolution to go to war relevant at all? There is no relevance. It was included as a statement to mislead the public into deducing that there was a link between Iraq and 9/11, even if it doesn't say that directly. Certainly that has been the effect, intent or not, media or no media.

Which leaves two possibilities: 1) The most charitable is that the Bush and Blair administration were incompetent in being able to see the long term impact of their choice of words. 2) They deviously misled the public into going to war.

Personally I don't think either of the two men are as stupid and incompetent as they look.
#44 Sep 12 2006 at 4:17 AM Rating: Decent
Gbaji, can you please show us some exemples of the liberal media making those connections between Iraq and Al-Qaeda?

As opposed to, for exemple these ones made by the Government:

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The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda


Bush wrote:
"We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda."


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Cheney called Iraq the "geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."


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Bush last year called Hussein "an ally of al Qaeda." Cheney said Hussein "had long-established ties with al Qaeda."


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In January, Cheney said the "best source" of information on the subject was an article in the Weekly Standard, which reported: "Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda -- perhaps even for Mohamed Atta -- according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum."


Bush wrote:
"We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner. This network runs a poison and explosive training camp in northeast Iraq, and many of its leaders are known to be in Baghdad."



Linky here.


Bush, talking about Saddam wrote:
"He is a danger not only to countries in the region but, as I explained last night, because of his al Qaeda connections, because of his history, he is a danger to Americans"


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Bush said Wednesday that Saddam could use al Qaeda as a "forward army" that could attack the United States with weapons of mass destruction "and never leave a fingerprint behind."


I could go one...

Alright then, I will.

Bush (Jan. 28, 2003) wrote:
Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.
Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes.


Cheney (Sept. 14, 2003) wrote:
: If we’re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it’s not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it’s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11 . . .

So what we do on the ground in Iraq, our capabilities here are being tested in no small measure, but this is the place where we want to take on the terrorists. This is the place where we want to take on those elements that have come against the United States, and it’s far more appropriate for us to do it there and far better for us to do it there than it is here at home.


Linky here.


So yeah, makes you wonder where the American public got that strange idea that Iraq and 9/11 were connected. Huh.


But, as Bush said: "See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

Edited, Sep 12th 2006 at 5:19am EDT by RedPhoenixxxxxx
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I'm sure you've seen this and that a million times, but it's still worth a chuckle.
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#46 Sep 12 2006 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Most of the fearmongering after 9/11 has come from the left trying to make people afraid of the Bush administration. Just saying. I've *never* felt that any statement by the Bush administration was designed to make me "afraid" of terrorists. But if I had a dollar for every time a Liberal pundit essentially tried to convince me that Bush was "evil" and would take away all the kid's lolipops or something, I'd be a very very rich man.



How contrived.

What's scarier:
a) A country armed with nuclear weapons, and the people who murdered 3,000 Americans.
b) Washington D.C. lieing to us.

Hmmm...


And before you rant about people's logical fallacies for a moment, try to stop stroking Bush's johnson first. Remember
Bush wrote:
You're either with us or the terrorists?

Of course I would commit a fallacy if I said you could not criticize fallacies because you supported a president who is prone to commiting fallacies of his own.... but I digress.

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But, as Bush said: "See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

Josef Goebbels wrote:
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.


Do you know who Josef Goebbels is? I'm sure you do. Hitler's minister of propaganda.


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The government didn't put that idea in people's heads. A whole bunch of speculative news "special investigative reports" did. The media can be squarely blamed for that one.

You don't buy the "media hyped Iraq as a possible backer of the attacks?" angle? I'm not sure why that's hard to believe. Care to guess what percentage of the US population believe in alien UFOs and abductions? Which do you think helps feed that idea? The government? Or the media? It's just not that hard of an observation to make. By your argument, the fact that so many people believe something requires that the government tell them to believe it. But that's easily and demonstrably disproven with the alien example. Clearly, large percentages of the population can come to believe something without the government saying anything to make them believe so (and in fact with numerous and long standing denials of such things by the government in the case of alien stuff).


But you go on believing that it's all the Bush administration's fault. I'm sure they're to blame for Bigfoot as well...


Yea, I really must be insane to think that Bush's administration would want to start a war for no reason, just because they have everything to gain. The SAIC who contributed 4.7 million to the Bush campaign gained 38 million in contracting value in Iraq. DynCorp, Flour Corporation, Vinnel Corporation, Betchel Group, and Halliburton all have ties to top ranking administrators for Bush and have all contributed over 5 million USD to his campaign seperately. Over 1/3 of the 4 billion dollar monthly fee for the war in Iraq goes to private contractors in America. I'm sure **** Cheney former VP of Halliburton is pleased, the 20 million USD retirement package and 433,333 stock options at Halliburton he owns must be looking very nice right now.




Whatever. You know, I'm done. If you want to keep your ignorance so badly you can have it. Just ignore all the evidence, facts, and quotes all you want. If you think all the innocents who have died so we can increase the number of terrorists in the world died for a just purpose, good for you. If you think that the government couldn't possibly have a stranglehold on the media even when five sargeants of the Fourth Psychological Operations (psyops) Group were discovered working at the CNN new division Atlanta headquarters, good for you. Of course the government wouldn't lie to us. Of course they wouldn't want to secure their financial interests over the lives of Americans after capitolizing on a national disaster to win the support of the people and Congress. Of course...

I guess you're the one who can sleep at night Gbaji, after all, ignorance is bliss, right?

Edited, Sep 12th 2006 at 6:33am EDT by sonicmonkeys
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Good Lord.

My OP seems to have Hit a Nerve tm

We should have let Hans Brix finish his report, made France and Ruskia look even sillier so they'd have to stand by their own ultimatum, created another inclusive coalition including Arab & Muslim states, then invaded Iraq based on a plan that had a beginning, a middle and an end, instead of one that just had a beginning.

Then we should have commissioned JJ Abrams to make a spooooooookeee TV series ([:Voiceover:]Previously on "Pwned"[:/Voiceover:]) where a bunch of coalition troops are stranded in a strange country with Polar Bears, WMD and girls with tiny damp t-shirts.

Instead, I suggest we have "Iraq Idol"

Ryan Seacrest: And what are you going to sing for us tonight Tariq?
Tariq Aziz: Tonight, Ryan, I'll be covering the old Johnny Q'ash song, "Abu gharaib Blues"

Applause fades after the performance

Simon Cowell: Well frankly Tariq, that was Karaoke. You were flat, your tempo was all over the place, and you were wooden on stage.
Paula Abdul: I have bewbs
Randy Jackson: So do I
Ryan: What do you have to say to that Tariq?
Tariq Aziz: I do not recognise this panel, nor the legitimacy of this imposed western show-trial. I declare myself the winner, and sentence you all to death.

Ryan Seacrest: And next, we have Saddam Hussein, with the heart-rending ballad "itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Burka"
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Tariq Aziz: I do not recognise this panel, nor the legitimacy of this imposed western show-trial. I declare myself the winner, and sentence you all to death.

RACK ESO, putos.
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The regime has long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist organizations. And there are al Qaeda terrorists inside Iraq. The regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material, could build one within a year. Iraq has already used weapons of mass death against -- against other countries and against her own citizens.
--Sept 26, 2002


Yeah, no association implied there. Why, it's plain not there! At all. Nope, nope, not here.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a bomb shelter to dig.
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