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#1 Sep 08 2006 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
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MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AP) -- An 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys as a 16-year-old girl watched and told her what sex acts to perform, authorities say in the latest mob attack to rock Milwaukee and set off another round of civic soul-searching.

"It almost leaves me speechless. It is just senseless acts of violence. It is inhumane. It is embarrassing to the city of Milwaukee and its people. ... There should be outrage," Barbara Nuell-Moore, director of the neighborhood-improvement group Project Respect.

The 16-year-old girl and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the attack, which authorities said took place on Monday in a house on the city's north side. A 40-year-old man who also had sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.

As for the others, "we're dealing with a lot of nicknames so we're trying to track down these people," said prosecutor Matthew Torbenson.

Numerous violent crimes have shocked the city this summer, starting with a Memorial Day weekend in which 28 people were shot.

Homicides overall are down this year, but two other categories of violent crime are up from 2005 -- assaults by 22 percent and robberies by 36 percent, Police Chief Nan Hegerty told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Hegerty's spokeswoman said the chief had no comment on the alleged gang rape.

According to court papers, the 11-year-old girl told police she was interested romantically in the 16-year-old girl, who looked and dressed like a boy.

The alleged victim and two friends went to the 16-year-old's house, where the child performed oral sex on three teenage boys, according to court papers. The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old and told police that the 16-year-old was directing the child, the papers said.

The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.

The 16-year-old told police that the 11-year-old had told her she wanted to perform oral sex on the boys in the house. The 16-year-old denied encouraging her.

The 16-year-old girl and the 15-year-old boy were charged with being a party to sexual assault. Torbenson said he will probably seek to have them tried as adults.



Is there some thing in the water that's making people do some seriously fUcked up shIt recently?


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edited because c!=x


Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 9:54am EDT by Althrun
#2 Sep 08 2006 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
That would be such a great story if the ages were like 17-18 years old. Eleven, yuck!

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 9:51am EDT by Soracloud
#3 Sep 08 2006 at 8:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Awesome... I was hoping for another five page rape thread before autumn! This could provide just the catalyst.


Heh.. that is pretty fucked up though.
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According to court papers, the 11-year-old girl told police she was interested romantically in the 16-year-old girl, who looked and dressed like a boy.
Man, there's enough to this story to keep the child shrinks in social services going for the next couple years.

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 9:54am EDT by Jophiel
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#4 Sep 08 2006 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
But did anyone leave any marks?
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#6 Sep 08 2006 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
I wonder if any of the people being charged have got a purdy mouth.
#7 Sep 08 2006 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
Awesome... I was hoping for another five page rape thread before autumn! This could provide just the catalyst.


Heh.. that is pretty fucked up though.


Not only that, it's an under-aged rape thread. That's eligible for at least an additional 2-3 pages of disgust, a couple of posts of some skeeterphile wondering what the problem is, and 4-5 pages of bombing and mass rate downs.

Wanted to give *something* fun for the asylum to play with, ya know?

#8 Sep 08 2006 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.

Hey, I think the little girl raped the boys!
#9 Sep 08 2006 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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It is just senseless acts of violence.


I guess they decided to leave out the parts where they beat her with 2X4's and left in the sexually explicit parts to protect the young readers ...
#10 Sep 08 2006 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
Part of me see's where this town is coming from the other part of me wants to slap all parties involved senseless. The 11 yo girl was not forced to do any of this. She did it on her own. I think that knocks the word "assault" right out of the ball park.

I think the authorities should look into this girls home life, find out what on earth possessed her to do something like this. It screams to me that she's been exposed to this behavior before. She's probably sexually active from previous "engagements". That she openly admits that she did it, even if the 16 yo did coach her, the fact is no normal 11 year old girl is going to be able to carry out these acts without being physically forced. She wasnt.

Now, I'm not saying that the 40 year old man shouldnt be tried for some form of molestation, I'm saying ruining everyone in this groups life over this would be going a bit far. Should they have said no and walked away? Yes, are they teen-age children who are still new to these emotions? Yes. Where on god's green earth were any of these kids parents? What have the parents not taught their children? Why havnt they taught their children that this is unacceptable? I think parents should be tried to some extent in these types of cases. Grr...

Ok getting off my soap box.
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#12 Sep 08 2006 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Part of me see's where this town is coming from the other part of me wants to slap all parties involved senseless. The 11 yo girl was not forced to do any of this. She did it on her own. I think that knocks the word "assault" right out of the ball park.

I think the authorities should look into this girls home life, find out what on earth possessed her to do something like this. It screams to me that she's been exposed to this behavior before. She's probably sexually active from previous "engagements". That she openly admits that she did it, even if the 16 yo did coach her, the fact is no normal 11 year old girl is going to be able to carry out these acts without being physically forced. She wasnt.

Now, I'm not saying that the 40 year old man shouldnt be tried for some form of molestation, I'm saying ruining everyone in this groups life over this would be going a bit far. Should they have said no and walked away? Yes, are they teen-age children who are still new to these emotions? Yes. Where on god's green earth were any of these kids parents? What have the parents not taught their children? Why havnt they taught their children that this is unacceptable? I think parents should be tried to some extent in these types of cases. Grr...

Ok getting off my soap box.
If I changed this into a leapfrogging contest, and the finish line was labeled "baseless assumptions", you'd be a shoe-in, Katie.

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 11:01am EDT by Atomicflea
#13 Sep 08 2006 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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I think the authorities should look into this girls home life, find out what on earth possessed her to do something like this. It screams to me that she's been exposed to this behavior before. She's probably sexually active from previous "engagements". That she openly admits that she did it, even if the 16 yo did coach her, the fact is no normal 11 year old girl is going to be able to carry out these acts without being physically forced. She wasnt.


If anyone wants a segway into the giant rape debate, it's right here for you.
#14 Sep 08 2006 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
You could be right Flea'lo. I just cant imagine at that age doing any of those acts unless physically forced. The line,
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The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.
, leads me to believe she knew what she was doing. Where did she learn these things?

Did mom and dad teach her how to be a good little gobbler? Did they teach her self respect? Doesnt look like it. Did they teach her that these kinds of acts are inappropriate at her age? Apparently not. So what were they teaching their little girl? Oh wait, this is America. We dont teach our children, thats the TV's job. I cant imagine any parent being comfortable with their 11 year old playing with a 16 year old. I'd raise an eye brow or two for certain.

So that leads us back to where do we get off filing assault on these teen age boys who of course ages arent listed. 13 is a teenager. Where were the parents for any of these children? Why werent they taught that this kind of behavior is unacceptable?
#15 Sep 08 2006 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Well, tweendom is a mystical land where kids pull away from their parents and listen more and more to peers. If she was of a weaker midset and desperate for acceptance, she could have fallen prey to coercion. I think I played spin-the-bottle once under coercion when I was 12, even though I didn't want to, because I was being mocked mercilessly as a prude and I wanted friends and acceptance. Granted, this doesn't compare to giving several guys head, but turn up the dial on both her immaturity and their pressure, and the conditions are set. While she is still on shaky emotional and mental ground as far as sexual politics, a young man/woman of 16 and a grown man of 40 should have an idea that sexual acts with a child of 11 is wrong.


That said, there is a lot of info that won't be released into the public domain due to her status as a minor, and I'm sure there was some type of contributing factor. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
#16 Sep 08 2006 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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where were these sluts wehn I was 11 Smiley: oyvey
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#17 Sep 08 2006 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
I'll give you the 40 year old should be publicly castrated. I want to know the ages of all the children involved before I drop judgement on them all. You are right the 16 year old should be beat within an inch of her life. Branding them child molesters and having them register for the rest of their lives may be a bit much. Thats more of what I'm getting at. I'm not saying they shouldn't all be punished, I'm saying that depending on their ages and their maturity, we should base the punishement from those factors. She's 11 and unfortunantly with todays society children are experiencing sexual acts at younger and younger ages. The story doesnt offer enough back ground information for me to comfortable say she was asaulted, coersion I can agree with though.




Katie to review her posts before sending!

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 12:08pm EDT by Katie
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Playing with the 16-year olds. Duh.
#19 Sep 08 2006 at 10:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's not enough here really to go on. They don't even say who reported the incident.

So far the only charges were to the 15 & 16 year old and I'd hope that charges are filed against the 40 year old. Charging the 15 & 16 year olds with accessory to what is very obviously a crime (the 40yr old having sex with the 11 year old) seems appropriate given what little I know of the case and assuming the statements in the article are accurate.
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#20 Sep 08 2006 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
A}That little girl is a prodigy.Tastless pedo humour

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Who keeps fifteen horny teen boys in their basement? Unless we're talking euphamistically, in which case I guess Bhodi. Bhodi has a huge **** joke

C}Now that's one way to have the Talk. Cross-thread relevance

Pick your favorite and go with it.
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Too bad they all weren't 18+. Then they could have filmed it and put it on the internets and made the big bucks.
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#26 Sep 08 2006 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow. I remember all the hubbub a few years back when a large group of kids beat an older man with bats and other weapons. Wonder if this was the other groups younger siblings.

Milwaukee just can't win. Oh well, they're still my closest ticket to major concerts. Considering i'm not an 11 year old girl, i'm not too worried.

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A 40-year-old man who also had sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.


Gee I didn't think that'd be such a tough choice to make. This whole story makes me ashamed to be human, or share any genetic similarities with the alleged.
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