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#1 Sep 07 2006 at 11:52 PM Rating: Default
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So yeah, I always told my parents that if I ever won the lotto I'd set them up real nice, pay off there house > buy them lakefront property depending on how much I won.

They take me to the Casino's up in Indian Country every once in a while and If I ever won a jackpot I was planning on giving them at least a third, because I love my parents and know they spend a hell of a lot on me growing up.

So this past weekend my parents go up to the Casino in Northern Michigan, I ask if I can come along, and they don't let me, I just got a nice job making pretty good money and I had a 3 day weekend. "Nope, we aren't coming back until Tuesday, you need to work that day." So I concede, and I'm not driving myself 4hrs up there just to waste $500.

Now, This morning I'm just about to go to bed when my dad gets up for work... and he shows me a picture... a picture I thought was a joke at first. He thought it was a joke when he first saw my Mom too... She hit the jackpot on Carribean Stud, a 5 card Royal Flush. She won $170,000 before taxes, $120,000 take home.

Guess what I get? Nothing lol. My 2k debt I owe them? "You need to learn responsibility." SON OF A *****.

They are actually going to buy my plane ticket to Arizona($400) now, but still... the only reason I'm still living with them right now is because I give them 1/3-1/2 of my paycheck every week so I can't save my own money to move out, which pisses me off to no end because they've already stated they don't want me to move out(Bro on the other side of the country in Arizona with my new nephew may have something to do with that ><)

The fact is, I love my parents and I'd feel like a bad son if I had won that much money and given them 4 times what I hoped to get from them. That is even $5000 to pay off my debt and help me get out on my own and yet I'd plan on giving them well over $20000 if I had won that much.

Also, Son of a ***** refering to how pissed off I am, I am not a literal Son of a *****, my moms great lol. Still a crappy situation

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 12:54am EDT by tommyhaynes
#2 Sep 07 2006 at 11:57 PM Rating: Good
You could kill her, and frame your dad for it.
#3 Sep 07 2006 at 11:59 PM Rating: Good
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You need to learn responsibility.

The fuck makes you think they should give you any of it, moran?





Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 1:00am EDT by GitSlayer
#4 Sep 08 2006 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
I think I'm entitled to a couple thousand of their winnings for reading that.
#5 Sep 08 2006 at 12:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can't save money to move out on your own but you were willing to blow $500 at a casino?

I'm thinking your parents aren't the problem.
#6 Sep 08 2006 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
Games of chance are taxes for fools.


Or something like that...
#7 Sep 08 2006 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
Not to distract from the whiney little cUnt of an OP, but I have a similar situation that has had me pissed off for a couple of years now, and I mean really, fUck him.

A buddy and myself took a day-trip to the mining town turned casino row near the town I live in, and being that he was just supplying the smoke for the ride up there, I filled the tank of my '86 Subaru GL and spotted him forty bucks with which to gamble.

So I'm pluggin away, making sure to drink what I gamble, chatting up the meth-addicted cocktail waitress and just generally enjoying myself when the dude hits a five hundred dollar nickel slot jackpot. Well that's great, he treats me to a dollar and ninety-nine cent steak and eggs lunch. Before we leave he hits another thousand dollar pot.

Now here's the beef. The motherfUcker only gives me back the forty bucks. I'm of the opinion that he should have given at least five-hundred, seeing as he never would have even been in Cripple Creek if it weren't for me. He moved to New Orleans and I hope he died in Katrina. What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 1:15am EDT by Barkingturtle
#8 Sep 08 2006 at 12:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Not to distract from the whiney little cUnt of an OP, but I have a similar situation that has had me pissed off for a couple of years now, and I mean really, fUck him.

A buddy and myself took a day-trip to the mining town turned casino row near the town I live in, and being that he was just supplying the smoke for the ride up there, I filled the tank of my '86 Subaru GL and spotted him forty bucks with which to gamble.

So I'm pluggin away, making sure to drink what I gamble, chatting up the meth-addicted cocktail waitress and just generally enjoying myself when the dude hits a five hundred dollar nickel slot jackpot. Well that's great, he treats me to a dollar and ninety-nine cent steak and eggs lunch. Before we leave he hits another thousand dollar pot.

Now here's the beef. The motherfUcker only gives me back the forty bucks. I'm of the opinion that he should have given at least five-hundred, seeing as he never would have even been in Cripple Creek if it weren't for me. He moved to New Orleans and I hope he died in Katrina. What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 1:15am EDT by Barkingturtle


Bust a knee cap. His, of course.

Seemed to work in Vegas way back when.
#9 Sep 08 2006 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Geez. He should have at least filled up the tank.
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#10 Sep 08 2006 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I rated you down for being a loser.
#11 Sep 08 2006 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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Your wishful thinking that if someday you were to win the Lotto doesn't translate to actual money, son. On the other hand, your parents who have disposable income have the option to gamble with what cash they have. All of this does not release you from your obligations to pay them back for the two thousand dollars you owe them. If, after you have shown enough work ethic to satisfy their desire to see you grow up and be reponsible with your money, they may forgive what debts you have towards them. But in the meantime, their fortune does not equate to it being your fortune.

That being said, rat poison in their morning orange juice will ensure that they pass on quickly from this mortal plane leaving you with the cash if you think they are frivolously spending your inheritance.

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#12 Sep 08 2006 at 3:34 AM Rating: Default
If you ever win money, **** them, they arent getting a cent.
#13 Sep 08 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Not to distract from the whiney little cUnt of an OP, but I have a similar situation that has had me pissed off for a couple of years now, and I mean really, fUck him.

A buddy and myself took a day-trip to the mining town turned casino row near the town I live in, and being that he was just supplying the smoke for the ride up there, I filled the tank of my '86 Subaru GL and spotted him forty bucks with which to gamble.

So I'm pluggin away, making sure to drink what I gamble, chatting up the meth-addicted cocktail waitress and just generally enjoying myself when the dude hits a five hundred dollar nickel slot jackpot. Well that's great, he treats me to a dollar and ninety-nine cent steak and eggs lunch. Before we leave he hits another thousand dollar pot.

Now here's the beef. The motherfUcker only gives me back the forty bucks. I'm of the opinion that he should have given at least five-hundred, seeing as he never would have even been in Cripple Creek if it weren't for me. He moved to New Orleans and I hope he died in Katrina. What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 1:15am EDT by Barkingturtle


That's a touchy situation. Personally, if my friend had fronted me the gambling money, I would be inclined to, at the very least, offer him half the money. If he insisted he did not want it, I would still give him some sort of monetary compensation. Then again, some people are just buttfucks and have no courtesy. You should have kicked him out of your car on the way back home and made him use his new found fortune on a cab.
#14 Sep 08 2006 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Not to distract from the whiney little cUnt of an OP, but I have a similar situation that has had me pissed off for a couple of years now, and I mean really, fUck him.

A buddy and myself took a day-trip to the mining town turned casino row near the town I live in, and being that he was just supplying the smoke for the ride up there, I filled the tank of my '86 Subaru GL and spotted him forty bucks with which to gamble.

So I'm pluggin away, making sure to drink what I gamble, chatting up the meth-addicted cocktail waitress and just generally enjoying myself when the dude hits a five hundred dollar nickel slot jackpot. Well that's great, he treats me to a dollar and ninety-nine cent steak and eggs lunch. Before we leave he hits another thousand dollar pot.

Now here's the beef. The motherfUcker only gives me back the forty bucks. I'm of the opinion that he should have given at least five-hundred, seeing as he never would have even been in Cripple Creek if it weren't for me. He moved to New Orleans and I hope he died in Katrina. What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 1:15am EDT by Barkingturtle


If someone spots me cash to gamble and I actualy make big winnings off of it, me splitting the winnings in half wouldn't even be something to talk about; I'd naturally would give.

Then again, I've always been a whole different kind of people.
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?
I'd guess it falls between the bare minimum (giving back the $40) and you asking for 33.3% of his winnings (or 50% as some people posit).

A 10% tithe seems appropriate. Which would get you $150 and keep enough in his pocket to feel like he kept his winnings. I'll leave the question of whether or not that $150 should include the initial $40 up to you.

That said, the whole "Hey, you won! Umm.. but you never would have been here if not for me so gimme gimme gimme" bit seems just as tacky as not going beyond the $40 repayment.
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#16 Sep 08 2006 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?
I'd guess it falls between the bare minimum (giving back the $40) and you asking for 33.3% of his winnings (or 50% as some people posit).

A 10% tithe seems appropriate. Which would get you $150 and keep enough in his pocket to feel like he kept his winnings. I'll leave the question of whether or not that $150 should include the initial $40 up to you.

That said, the whole "Hey, you won! Umm.. but you never would have been here if not for me so gimme gimme gimme" bit seems just as tacky as not going beyond the $40 repayment.
Hell, I'd ask: Are you going to share any of that? If he said no, I'd say have a nice cab ride home. Either he gives you the coin or he gives it to some cab company and goes through the ******** of a long cab ride.

That'll teach em.
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I see the art of being gracious and happy for your friend's winning is dead.

You loan $40 to a friend to gamble with, with no other strings attached aside from wanting your $40 back in due time. The friend wins. Now you suddenly demand a portion of his money or else threaten him with a walk home.

Who's being the greedy asshole here?
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#18 Sep 08 2006 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
I see the art of being gracious and happy for your friend's winning is dead.

You loan $40 to a friend to gamble with, with no other strings attached aside from wanting your $40 back in due time. The friend wins. Now you suddenly demand a portion of his money or else threaten him with a walk home.

Who's being the greedy asshole here?
Just looking for him to pay for the gas for the return trip too is all.

I had a number of friends who always wanted a free ride because they were always broke. All of a sudden when they were no longer broke, try to get any reciprocation was like pulling teeth. Freeloaders, the lot of em.
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Jophiel wrote:
I see the art of being gracious and happy for your friend's winning is dead.

You loan $40 to a friend to gamble with, with no other strings attached aside from wanting your $40 back in due time. The friend wins. Now you suddenly demand a portion of his money or else threaten him with a walk home.

Who's being the greedy asshole here?


True, but wouldn't a decent human being at least offer you some money above and beyond what you leant them?
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I would've gone for snakes on the plane, but I guess that works too.....
#21 Sep 08 2006 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
Also forgot to mention.. Upon giving the guy the $40 would be the appropriate time to pre-define payback terms. Such as, here's $40, if you win anything I get half. Sound good?

If he accepts the verbal agreement, then if he does win and chooses not to honour the agreement, he's the schmuck.
#22 Sep 08 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Not to distract from the whiney little c[sm]Unt of an OP, but I have a similar situation that has had me pissed off for a couple of years now, and I mean really, fUck him.

A buddy and myself took a day-trip to the mining town turned casino row near the town I live in, and being that he was just supplying the smoke for the ride up there, I filled the tank of my '86 Subaru GL and spotted him forty bucks with which to gamble.

So I'm pluggin away, making sure to drink what I gamble, chatting up the meth-addicted cocktail waitress and just generally enjoying myself when the dude hits a five hundred dollar nickel slot jackpot. Well that's great, he treats me to a dollar and ninety-nine cent steak and eggs lunch. Before we leave he hits another thousand dollar pot.

Now here's the beef. The motherfUcker only gives me back the forty bucks. I'm of the opinion that he should have given at least five-hundred, seeing as he never would have even been in Cripple Creek if it weren't for me. He moved to New Orleans and I hope he died in Katrina. What is the common practice when someone fronts you gambling dough and you come up way ahead? What's the accepted reciprocation?[/sm]


It's pretty standard to return the original cash and offer half of the winnings.

Similar thing happened to me also, but I was the broke fucker in this situation. I was in San Diego a few years back on vacation/checking the area out to see if I wanted to move there and it was near the end of my trip, so me and a navy buddy hit the buses and rode out to a casino where he spotted me 60 bucks.

We sit down to play some Blackjack and first hand I double up. Going well, I press my luck a few more hands and end up walking away with about 300 dollars in 20 minutes. So I give the 60 back and offer half of my winnings at the suggestion of the dealer who claims its pretty standard from her experience. My buddy takes it happily and we continue to play till dawn.

Everyones happy.
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Kaelesh the Puissant wrote:
It's pretty standard to return the original cash and offer half of the winnings.

Says who?


Personally, if I were BT in that situation, I wouldn't expect a penny more than the $40 I had loaned. If I were BT's friend, I would've given him at least a couple hundred dollars of my winnings.
#24 Sep 08 2006 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh the Puissant wrote:
It's pretty standard to return the original cash and offer half of the winnings.

Says who?


Personally, if I were BT in that situation, I wouldn't expect a penny more than the $40 I had loaned. If I were BT's friend, I would've given him at least a couple hundred dollars of my winnings.


Right above you, Jawbox, I wrote:
So I give the 60 back and offer half of my winnings at the suggestion of the dealer who claims its pretty standard from her experience


Atleast among friends, I would hope so.

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 10:20am EDT by Kaelesh
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True, but wouldn't a decent human being at least offer you some money above and beyond what you leant them?
You'd hope so. But you can't control every social situation, only how you deal with it. If everyone acted as we wanted them to, we'd never have need to be gracious.

The $40 wasn't framed as an investment, it was given to the friend so the friend could have a good time. Then, all of a sudden once the friend wins, the dollar signs go off in your eyes and you start sticking your hand out and expecting (judging from responses) $500 to $750. I don't see that kind of envy and greed as anything other than ugly.
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Jophiel wrote:
I see the art of being gracious and happy for your friend's winning is dead.

You loan $40 to a friend to gamble with, with no other strings attached aside from wanting your $40 back in due time. The friend wins. Now you suddenly demand a portion of his money or else threaten him with a walk home.

Who's being the greedy asshole here?


Not really how I look at it, though then again, if I was the one loaning, I wouldn't really demand anything either.

If two buddies go to gamble, hell, even if no money was loaned, I wouldn't be surprised if they still shared the profits. I think the moral problem Eld and BT faced is determining what's a 'true friend' and what's an 'associate.'

Simply put. I hang out with XYZ good friend and loaned him $40, filled my own gas tank, and even paid for a quick trip to the BK before we go to the Casino...you better beleive I'd expect SOMETHING out of his/her $500 winning.

On the other hand, say I do the same thing to an associate, and he/she nails $500, I'd be -surprised- if I even get reimbursed for the double whooper with extra cheese I got 'em.

That, or I've watched too many Disney movies.
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