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#27 Aug 23 2006 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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The last 2 cats I had weren't declawed, but they never scratched the furniture. Unless you count my raggedy old computer chair. That was their "scratching post".

Not all cats are furniture killers.



I miss my cats. =(
#28 Aug 23 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't agree with declawing cats - I wouldn't want my fingernails pulled out either. I opt to clip their claws (a regular fingernail clipper works fine) and may try the "claw caps" sometime also.
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#29 Aug 23 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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I don't agree with declawing cats - I wouldn't want my fingernails pulled out either. I opt to clip their claws (a regular fingernail clipper works fine) and may try the "claw caps" sometime also.


yeah, but do you claw the couch and speakers?

Im not including sexual escapades here though
#30 Aug 23 2006 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Now that you mention it, I think I'm gonna get my girlfriend declawed.
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#31 Aug 23 2006 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm of the opinion that declawing animals is a sign of a controlling, subtly manipulative person.

They want a cat but not all of a cat. The soft furry make me feel not so alone part of a cat, but not any part of the feline's natural self that doesn't conform to domestic living.

I don't generally enjoy the company of those kinds of people.
#32 Aug 23 2006 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Mossholder wrote:
I'm of the opinion that declawing animals is a sign of a controlling, subtly manipulative person.

They want a cat but not all of a cat. The soft furry make me feel not so alone part of a cat, but not any part of the feline's natural self that doesn't conform to domestic living.

I don't generally enjoy the company of those kinds of people.
Nicely put, and my views exactly.
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#33 Aug 23 2006 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm of the opinion that declawing animals is a sign of a controlling, subtly manipulative person.

They want a cat but not all of a cat. The soft furry make me feel not so alone part of a cat, but not any part of the feline's natural self that doesn't conform to domestic living.

I don't generally enjoy the company of those kinds of people.

Nicely put, and my views exactly.



I agree as well. Though I'm still enough of an evil ******* to have the vet snip off his balls.



Edited, Aug 23rd 2006 at 6:31pm EDT by BloodwolfeX
#34 Aug 23 2006 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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Mossholder wrote:
I'm of the opinion that declawing animals is a sign of a controlling, subtly manipulative person.

They want a cat but not all of a cat. The soft furry make me feel not so alone part of a cat, but not any part of the feline's natural self that doesn't conform to domestic living.

I don't generally enjoy the company of those kinds of people.
Nicely put, and my views exactly.


I completly agree. I have had cats all of my life, most of them outdoor/indoor (they came and went as they pleased) and in one case a one step from completly feral Tom and in none of the case did they ever scratch anything but their appointed scratching post. If you can't keep them from scratching your furniture and feel you must declaw them it says more about you then the supposed 'badness' of the cat.
#35 Aug 23 2006 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
My cat got his collar off the other day, and has reverted to being a crazed little *******. The entire time he had the cumbersome thing blocking his genital access he was just as lovable as can be. No, I wasn't licking his nuts for him.

Would it be subtley manipulative if I put the collar back on him, just to make him affectionate again? Or would it be blatantly manipulative?
#36 Aug 23 2006 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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That isn't manipulation, that's just plain cruelty.
#37 Aug 23 2006 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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#38 Aug 23 2006 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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My cat got his collar off the other day, and has reverted to being a crazed little *******. The entire time he had the cumbersome thing blocking his genital access he was just as lovable as can be. No, I wasn't licking his nuts for him.

Would it be subtley manipulative if I put the collar back on him, just to make him affectionate again? Or would it be blatantly manipulative?


You mean a cone collar?

My cat has had to have one several times after getting into fights. Now I keep him in at night, so now the only pain is him trying to get me to let him out before I am ready to get up for work. No fights since keeping him in at night...least none that he was injured in.


Speaking of collars: Those bastards that make the break-away collars for cats must be raking in the dough. I have replaced my cat's collar and pet license 5 times in last 12 months. Guess its better than him hanging himself in a tree though.
#39 Aug 23 2006 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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They want a cat but not all of a cat. The soft furry make me feel not so alone part of a cat, but not any part of the feline's natural self that doesn't conform to domestic living.
Beats euthanasia.

How do you feel about paying and neutering? It's the same basic principle -- removing part of the animal to make it more suited to domestic living. Not even for preventing kittens but also the headaches of a female cat in heat or a spraying male.

For the record, I've never had a cat declawed although I've had a couple declawed cats (I've always had pets fall into my lap). I've also had non-declawed cats although they were predominately outdoor cats.
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#40 Aug 23 2006 at 5:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Of course, some cats are easier to handle indoors than others.

I'd be a little nonplussed at having a cougar in my living room, scratching post or no.
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#41 Aug 23 2006 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
How do you feel about paying and neutering? It's the same basic principle -- removing part of the animal to make it more suited to domestic living.


I get males and have only kept predominantly outdoor animals. When I had to move to a city and knew I would be living in either an apartment or house w/ small yard, I gave him to someone that had more space. I chose not to get my dogs cut, and as a result they were night-time roamers and high energy dudes. One would even swim across the lake to reach a dog that was in heat on the other side. Obedient? Absolutely. No jumping biting growling or barking, just happy dogs.

The behavior of male animals once they get cut can be a drastic difference from their normal selves. Horses, dogs and cats all gain weight and lose their ***** ha!. I wouldn't wish that on a friend. I can't say what the difference is on females since I've never owned one to see a before/after comparison.

Until PETA declares open season on cats, spaying and neutering is the only method of controlling population if you don't want to be killing litters after they are born. A necessary evil in most situation unfortunately.


#42 Aug 23 2006 at 6:56 PM Rating: Good
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Horses, dogs and cats all gain weight and lose their ***** ha!.


/nod

My lovely cat weighs 28.5 pounds. She was less than a pound when I found her and when she got a bit bigger, I had her fixed and now...Smiley: frown She's on low-calorie food (1 cup a day) and I'm still not sure how she ballooned. I'm sure, though, that my children have been sneaking her food.

But I did buy a leash and a collar and am planning to try to take her for a walk around the cul-de-sac. Let's see how that goes.
#43 Aug 23 2006 at 7:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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My cat was neutered and he's still a skinny guy. Some of it's genetic, but yeah, not as much motivation to go racing around chasing pUssy, so to speak.

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#44 Aug 23 2006 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I chose not to get my dogs cut, and as a result they were night-time roamers and high energy dudes. One would even swim across the lake to reach a dog that was in heat on the other side. Obedient? Absolutely. No jumping biting growling or barking, just happy dogs.
I doubt that the neighbors on the other side of the lake would agree.

My cat gets to lay around on his *** all day licking himself and getting his food and water delivered to him in a bowl. I think taking his claws out is a fair trade.

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The behavior of male animals once they get cut can be a drastic difference from their normal selves. Horses, dogs and cats all gain weight and lose their ***** ha!.
Not true. I've owned several neutered male cats who stayed slim and active. Likewise with a spayed female cat I had. I've also had a heavier spayed female but she was just lazy. Diet and exercise plays a much larger role than whether or not they've been neutered.
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Until PETA declares open season on cats, spaying and neutering is the only method of controlling population if you don't want to be killing litters after they are born.
You mean aside from keeping your pets indoors and away from breeding partners?

Edited, Aug 23rd 2006 at 10:07pm EDT by Jophiel
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#46 Aug 23 2006 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Of course a person could keep their pet locked up 24/7, but in my own opinion that's a sad way to treat an animal.

I just plain don't like the thought of changing an animal into an indoor pet.

#47 Aug 24 2006 at 12:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mossholder wrote:
Of course a person could keep their pet locked up 24/7, but in my own opinion that's a sad way to treat an animal.

I just plain don't like the thought of changing an animal into an indoor pet.


I don't like the idea of an animal for which I've taken responsibility getting hit by a car, killed by dogs (or coyotes, out here), or for that matter slaughtering songbirds. So, he stays inside.

The Byronic notion of a natural animal running free and impregnating the neighbors' Pekingese is a bit antiquated in the modern age.
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#48 Aug 24 2006 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Of course a person could keep their pet locked up 24/7, but in my own opinion that's a sad way to treat an animal.
Letting an animal run around to kill the native songbirds, get into fights, eat rotten food, knock over garbage cans, get parasites and diseases and hit by cars because it's cruel to keep your housepet indoors is a much more responsible method of owning a pet. Smiley: dubious

Life expectancy for an indoor cat is 12-18 years. For an outdoor cat, it's 4-6 years. I don't see letting your pet run around in the great outdoors because you're unwilling to take responsibility for it in your home as doing your pet any favors.
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#49 Aug 24 2006 at 11:27 AM Rating: Default
My cat is not declawed. She is a indoor only cat, only because she is afraid of people and the outside. I didn't see a need for it since she does not claw the furniture (I just bought new furniture a few months ago and still no problems) or the kids, except when she is playful she can get a little frisky but she has never clawed anyone for picking her up or being rough when holding her.

She is, however, fixed. When we brought her home she was very sickly and underweight, she didn't run around much and wasn't playful like most kittens are. We had a male cat who wasn't fixed and didn't want her getting pregnant with as sick as she was. Once we got her fixed she gained weight and is now a totally healthy cat.
#50 Aug 24 2006 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I have never declawed any of my house cats. They can (and do) get outside, sometimes without you realizing it. So they might need to climb a few trees after Bowzer starts after them.


Same reason here. Claws may be a pain in your sofa's ***, but your kitty needs to be able to defend it's self if/when it gets outside. :)
#51 Aug 24 2006 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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I'm a declawer. Oh, cry me a river, my cats have good and long lives. The cats I had declawed were about 4 or 5 when I had it done. Their feet were tender for a few days, then they were fine.

Just for the record, cats can climb a tree just fine with only their hind claws, as my 2 late cats repeatedly demonstrated. They grip with their front paws & dig in with their back claws. I can also attest to the fact that indoor/outdoor cats do kill a lot of critters. My next cat will be kept inside.

As for defending themselves; Joph is correct. They rake with their back claws if a swat doesn't deter the attacker.

What's a house cat defending itself from?
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