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#27 Aug 23 2006 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
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Actually it looks like you don tknow Richard about child support and got ripped off. Child support is for children. It is supposed to go to food, clothing, anything for school, medical and dental insurance, etc. If you have 50/50 on the kids visitation, and put in as much as you claim, then talk to your lawyer about getting it changed. Ask your lawyer for the possibility of getting receipts. Make sure what you're paying is child support and not alimony in the clause of the divorce papers. ANd lastly, stop telling others that they dont know shit, when they do. Katies dead on. Not her fault you got jacked up the *** on your divorce.


Who said she was my ex-wife? I'm not paying alimony.

Regardless, the State of Iowa and the State of Illinois doesn't do anything concerning how the mother spends the money. They don't care. Iowa gets $15 to take it out of my check and Illinois gets 10 to cut her a check. That's all they care about.
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#28 Aug 23 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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As I said then, you got ripped. Your laws are different from the laws where I live, and Im pretty damn sure they are different from where Katie lives. SO how the hell do you think shes supposed to know your states law when it differs?
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#29 Aug 23 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Hell, they get maternity leave. Isn't that usually paid?
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#30 Aug 23 2006 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Hell, they get maternity leave. Isn't that usually paid?


Mine was! I heart you, Canada!
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no. It just means they can take off three months and still know their job is there. Maternity leave is unpaid though. At least in the US

Edited, Aug 23rd 2006 at 4:33pm EDT by DSD
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It's your life, you only get out of it what you put into it. If you dont like something, work to change it. ******** and moaning gets you no where. I'd suggest find out what the expenses for your children completly entail. Health, medical, school, clothes, school supplies, activities, tutors, scouts, pta;s, shoes, counciling, fees for sports, college funds, savings accounts for your children, rent or mortage on where your ex lives, gas bill, electric bill, water bill, property taxes, auto insurance,, doctor bills, food, allowances and much more. Every last one of those effect your children. If you think what you are paying is more than enough to cover half of each of your children's share of all of that, then you should seek a lawyer and get it changed.
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#33 Aug 23 2006 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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It depends on the employer, actually.
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#34 Aug 23 2006 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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link for maternity leave around the globe
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#35 Aug 23 2006 at 3:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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DSD wrote:
link for maternity leave around the globe


Right. But some employers provide benefits beyond the legislated requirements. That's why I said, it depends on the employer as to whether maternity (and paternity) leave is paid or unpaid.
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As I said then, you got ripped. Your laws are different from the laws where I live, and Im pretty damn sure they are different from where Katie lives. SO how the hell do you think shes supposed to know your states law when it differs?


What Katie and myself were talking about is the money I pay being not enough. Not the law.

But carry on.
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#37 Aug 23 2006 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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As for labor labor, many moms get jewelry from their dew eyed husbands, or other special gifts. Personally, all I would want at that point in time is to know that my husband will be taking the morning shift with the little ones so I can catch an hour or two of uninterrrupted sleep here and there.


/nod

I heart jewelry. But even better was when hubby took up extra daddy duty so I could get some extra sleep.
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"I applaud moms. They are the hardest working, least appreciated people in the world. They clean up sh*t, they clean puke, they have no days off, blah blah blah blahblahblah and the list keeps going on..." --Katie

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DSD wrote:
As I said then, you got ripped. Your laws are different from the laws where I live, and Im pretty damn sure they are different from where Katie lives. SO how the hell do you think shes supposed to know your states law when it differs?


What Katie and myself were talking about is the money I pay being not enough. Not the law.

But carry on.



what about this quote?

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Please, while in the minority, single fathers do all this as well. The only difference is we are paying the mothers. It's called child support.



But carry on[i][/i]
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MA Laws

The above link is a guide to laws in MA. I know every state is different though.

My wife is a paralegal (no, not an imaginary uber lawyer) and on our comp in PDF is a guideline judges use when deciding child support. Sorry, I don't know how to link a PDF here.

My wife said that proving, in a court of law, that the parent getting child support is not using it for the child is almost impossible.



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Oh ya, I forgot. We get baby bonus cheques up here in Canuckland too. They're now tied to your income so the more you make, the less you get or something like that.

afaik, paternity (it was recently changed from maternity, the mother and father are allowed to take a maximum amount of time off combined, 6 months?) and be paid unemployment insurance. Sorry, we call it employment insurance now (what kind of ******** is that?).
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One of my staff adopted a baby a few years back and I successfully argued for him to have 4 weeks Paternity Leave on full pay.

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Oh ya, I forgot. We get baby bonus cheques up here in Canuckland too. They're now tied to your income so the more you make, the less you get or something like that.

afaik, paternity (it was recently changed from maternity, the mother and father are allowed to take a maximum amount of time off combined, 6 months?) and be paid unemployment insurance. Sorry, we call it employment insurance now (what kind of bullsh*t is that?).
Nizdaar, are you in Toronto or West Coast?
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Nizdaar wrote:
Oh ya, I forgot. We get baby bonus cheques up here in Canuckland too. They're now tied to your income so the more you make, the less you get or something like that.

afaik, paternity (it was recently changed from maternity, the mother and father are allowed to take a maximum amount of time off combined, 6 months?) and be paid unemployment insurance. Sorry, we call it employment insurance now (what kind of bullsh*t is that?).
Nizdaar, are you in Toronto or West Coast?


What, I can't be from somewhere else?

An hour north of Toronto.
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One of my staff adopted a baby a few years back and I successfully argued for him to have 4 weeks Paternity Leave on full pay.

See, now I remember why I love this country.
Technically, new fathers in the US are eligible under the Family & Medical Leave Act to receive up to 12 weeks off although it's generally unpaid (and probably rarely used for that reason).

Edit: I'm not sure that the FMLA applies to adoption cases though

Edited, Aug 23rd 2006 at 10:18pm EDT by Jophiel
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Well I can take Paternity leave if I want, but then I have to work out what we would do with out my pay. My partner stays at home with our son and we now have another on the way.

We get a tax break which is repaid to us fortnightly and we got a $3,000 baby bonus for our son and we will get $4,000 for the next one, if Baby X stays up there til after June (due in May) it will be $5,000.

Still I try to give her time to herself. I take my son out to kinder gyms and stuff on the weekend, cause I know that he wears me out as he never runs out of energy. She still manages to make dinner, iron, clean, and make sammichs.
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#50 Aug 24 2006 at 3:09 AM Rating: Decent
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DSD wrote:
link for maternity leave around the globe


That's sad, according to the list:

Slovenia
Latvia
Estonia
Papua New Guinea
Australia
United States
Swaziland
Lesotho

Are the only countries that don't offer any paid leave. 'Course, the list was made in 2001 (with Europe updated later). But it's still sad.

I know at least those two could work something out. Well nevermind, if we can't raise the minimum wage for 9 years....
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King Nobby wrote:
One of my staff adopted a baby a few years back and I successfully argued for him to have 4 weeks Paternity Leave on full pay.

See, now I remember why I love this country.
Technically, new fathers in the US are eligible under the Family & Medical Leave Act to receive up to 12 weeks off although it's generally unpaid (and probably rarely used for that reason).

Edit: I'm not sure that the FMLA applies to adoption cases though

Edited, Aug 23rd 2006 at 10:18pm EDT by Jophiel


Most major US corporations do offer some type of paternity leave now. When I worked for Bank of America, they offered two weeks paid. They also do the same at my present job. Anything after two weeks I had to take vacation time.

My daughter was born in Jan 2005 and I did get two weeks paid, which I absolutely needed after my wife had a C-section.

I am speculating here but, I think more companies are offering paternity leave because more woman are having C-sections. Again, just speculation.
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