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#1 Aug 18 2006 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
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Once again I have been struck by an overwhelming pessimism for the world.

Some of us are lucky enough to visit other countries and meet the people (ideally without dropping bombs on them or raiding their houses at gunpoint).

If you are fortunate enough to have the local language, you can level the playing field further by having a chinwag with "the blokes in the bar" and get a real perspective of what makes the locals (cab drivers, teachers, factory workers, cops etc) tick.

I do appreciate that I'm in a priveliged position, but think it validates my argument further.

Nobby's 2nd Rule of Geopolitics states that the nicer people are, the more their Government sucks monkey balls.

Once again I've spent time with people who were helpful, generous, witty, welcoming, broad-minded. In this case they were French. Their Government has just held the Western World to ransom to stand by them in supporting Lebanon, then fUcked off down the Bistro! They've giggled from the touchlines at our losses in Iraq while inflaming the Moslem world with their racist policies and Sarcozy's xenophobic power-******

With very few exceptions, I've found US citizens to be utterly charming and friendly. A little loud at times, and occassionally let down by their edjamakayshun system, but they have almost all compensated with a natural wit. The Government? Don't set me off.

Brits - generally OK. Bliar's cronies? Crooks and lying bastages.

The nett effect of this? People without 1st hand experience of these other nations have a sterotypical (ergo negative) view of them. Once again, Frog-eaters I spoke to were in 2 camps regarding USA. Those who've never met 'em and assume them all to be intolerant loutish pricks, and those who argue that the ones they know are decent people.

Whichever way I cut it (Yanks re. Brits, Germans re. Yanks etc.) I find the rule broadly holds true.

In conclusion.

Nice people elect ********** so we're all going to die.

There.

Got that off me chest.
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#2 Aug 18 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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However, we do not really elect said ********** since the Illuminati runs everything
#3 Aug 18 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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King Nobby wrote:

I've found US citizens to be utterly charming and friendly. A little loud at times...Got that off me chest.


You said you weren't going to tell!!!
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#4 Aug 18 2006 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Kween Darqflame wrote:
King Nobby wrote:

I've found US citizens to be utterly charming and friendly. A little loud at times...Got that off me chest.


You said you weren't going to tell!!!


Yeh, you got right off his chest and onto his face!


*cue Monty Python*
#5 Aug 18 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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PsiChi the Flatulent wrote:
*cue Monty Python*
She turned me into a Newt!
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#6 Aug 18 2006 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
After reading Vonneguts latest book and pushing myself through Walden I have to disagree. I think the people we do put into power are the type of people who can easily feed off a certain mind set or fear that we all share as the human collective. We really just need to stop voting on instinct and vote on ideals that actually suit us and not special interests.
#7 Aug 18 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
I thought everyone knew Frenchmen were pompous asshôles...right? Smiley: confused
#8 Aug 18 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
I thought everyone knew Frenchmen were pompous asshôles...right? Smiley: confused
I like the 3 French people I have met in real life, Granted they are all black. They got me turned onto the Communist Manifesto and a couple of different books.
#9 Aug 18 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Hellboy the Hand wrote:
After reading Vonneguts latest book and pushing myself through Walden I have to disagree.


Do you? Smiley: dubious


@ Le' Nobster: I was thinking more along the lines of

Quote:
Sit on my face and tell me that you love me
I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you too
I love to hear you moralize
When I'm between your thighs
You blow me away.

Sit on my face and let my lips embrace you
I'll sit on your face and then I'll love you truly
Life can be fine if we both sixty nine
If we sit on our faces
In all sorts of places
And play till we're blown away.
#10 Aug 18 2006 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Hellboy the Hand wrote:
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
I thought everyone knew Frenchmen were pompous asshôles...right? Smiley: confused
I like the 3 French people I have met in real life, Granted they are all black. They got me turned onto the Communist Manifesto and a couple of different books.


Did they? Smiley: dubious
#11 Aug 18 2006 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
PsiChi the Flatulent wrote:
Hellboy the Hand wrote:
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
I thought everyone knew Frenchmen were pompous asshôles...right? Smiley: confused
I like the 3 French people I have met in real life, Granted they are all black. They got me turned onto the Communist Manifesto and a couple of different books.


Did they? Smiley: dubious
No I was just talking out of my ***.
#12 Aug 18 2006 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I find that to be true, as well. When I go to Peru to visit there is some freindly joking about what an *** our President is, but there was real empathy on 9/11 and soon thereafter when we visited. I think that, no matter how we try to say we, as democracies, are immune, power just corrupts and narrows your thinking. Of course no one wants war, or death, but we keep trying to pile on top of each other until it's inevitable that someone falls over just due to sheer weight, or because someone pushes him.
#13 Aug 18 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Default
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Of course no one wants war, or death


That's a very bold statement.
#14 Aug 18 2006 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
Hellboy the Hand wrote:
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Of course no one wants war, or death


That's a very bold statement.


Not as bold as: "I want to drink slightly aged ***".

Back to the matter at hand, though. Would the reveerse therefore hold true as well? I mean would a population of twats be governed by a decent fellow or fellowette? And do we have any examples of this? Besides Canada.
#15 Aug 18 2006 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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Hellboy the Hand wrote:
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Of course no one wants war, or death


That's a very bold statement.


Say it with me....whooooshhh!
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#16 Aug 18 2006 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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She turned me into a Newt!


A Newt? I sure as hell hope you get better!
#17 Aug 18 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Would the reveerse therefore hold true as well? I mean would a population of twats be governed by a decent fellow or fellowette? And do we have any examples of this? Besides Canada.


S. Africa & Mandela?

India & Indira Ghandi?

And don't forget those nasty Germanses and that poor misunderstood Mr Hitler.

OK. Maybe all politicians are cUnts...
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#18 Aug 18 2006 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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King Nobby wrote:

And don't forget those nasty Germanses and that poor misunderstood Mr Hitler.


But Hitler was a snazzy dresser. You can't take that away from him.
#19 Aug 18 2006 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Back to the matter at hand, though. Would the reveerse therefore hold true as well? I mean would a population of twats be governed by a decent fellow or fellowette? And do we have any examples of this? Besides Canada.


Are you calling Stephen Harper a decent fellow?


Smiley: motz
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#20 Aug 18 2006 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
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Back to the matter at hand, though. Would the reveerse therefore hold true as well? I mean would a population of twats be governed by a decent fellow or fellowette? And do we have any examples of this? Besides Canada.



Are you calling Stephen Harper a decent fellow?


The exception that prooves the rule?
#21 Aug 18 2006 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not so much that nice people elect asshOles into power. It's more that nice people are easier to deceive and bamboozle.


edit: ******* swear ******* filter. ****.

Edited, Aug 18th 2006 at 5:19pm EDT by Jawbox
#22 Aug 18 2006 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
Who the fUck is Stephen Weber?
#23 Aug 18 2006 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Who the fUck is Stephen Weber?
Mr and Mrs Weber's kid?
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#24 Aug 18 2006 at 4:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wasn't he the younger, goofier brother on Wings?
#25 Aug 18 2006 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Wasn't he the younger, goofier brother on Wings?
You're thinking of Paul McCartney, silly
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#26 Aug 18 2006 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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S. Africa & Mandela?
If Mandela is a nice guy then so is Gerry Adams, they both have an aweful lot of blood on thier hands.

Aparteit aside he was still a terrorist.

We had a nice guy in charge not long back over here Nobby, W.Hauge and look what the press did to him.
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