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#1 Aug 15 2006 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
Disclaimer: Banjo playing, non-armpit shaving womenists may be offended and declare this entire thread chauvinistic. Read at your own risk whilst wearing only a thong. It's much harder to get your panites in a wad when it's a thong.

Now on to business!

My wife and I last night were playing cards and the television was on in the other room, when a women's anti-persperant commercial for the well known product called "Secret" came on. Being children of the 80's, we could not help but notice the change in their branding slogan. It had changed!

Back in the 80's, Secret used 2 similar slogans:

Strong enough for a man, made for a woman.
then later in the same decade;
Strong enough for a man, pH balanced for a woman.

last night's commercial:
Strong enough for a woman.

On the right/left scale, my wife and I would be considered center-left. We where left perplexed at how the simplest things have now been bastardized due to the wonderful world of PC language and the picket sign carrying feminists.

We are both all for equality between sexes and mutual respect, but think it's retarded that man-hole covers have to now be called person-hole covers. Does anyone remember what sizes Royale facial tissue came in? Regular and MAN SIZED. Now they are just called extra large facial tissues.

I think that the Feminists/PCists should have a new slogan:

Political Correctness: Not important enough for men, innoffencive enough for women.

Do you have any examples of changes to everyday items or sayings that just make you shake your head?
#2 Aug 15 2006 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think you put way too much emphasis on marketing slogans.
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#3 Aug 15 2006 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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I hear Montgomery transit no longer uses its 'A seat for every whiteperson' slogan anymore.

F'ucking outrageous!
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#4 Aug 15 2006 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
Samira wrote:
I think you put way too much emphasis on marketing slogans.
Marketing slogans is a good indicator of consumer mentality. Slogans are very important because they engrain brand recognition.

Some examples of recognized brands over the years: (If you can answer these questions or finish these sentences then you paid just as much attention

How do you spell relief?

Catch the wave:

What is the choice of a new generation?

Just do what?

Maybe she's born with it:

#5 Aug 15 2006 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
bodhisattva wrote:
I hear Montgomery transit no longer uses its 'A seat for every whiteperson' slogan anymore.

F'ucking outrageous!
International brands you tool. Smiley: rolleyes
#6 Aug 15 2006 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
Do you have any examples of changes to everyday items or sayings that just make you shake your head?
Not really an ad slogan, but I do despise the term "feminazi". It's some idiot's version of what feminism is, and I hate to see that stereotype perpetuated.
#7 Aug 15 2006 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
I think you put way too much emphasis on marketing slogans.
Find me a commercial where the savvy man has to explain to his mongloid wife how the TV remote operates or which motor oil to buy or the difference between lighter fluids.

Because Madison Avenue has already taught me that modern man, while capable of walking on the moon, can't tell the difference between Wizzo Ultra With Advanced Fabric Guard and a dented white box labeled "Detrjent Stuff" without help from his wife Smiley: dubious
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#8 Aug 15 2006 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Elderon the Wise wrote:
Do you have any examples of changes to everyday items or sayings that just make you shake your head?
Not really an ad slogan, but I do despise the term "feminazi". It's some idiot's version of what feminism is, and I hate to see that stereotype perpetuated.
The funny thing is that although this is a sterotype, it derives from some truth. There are some rather militant feminists out there, my wife's cousin being one of them. Nothing makes me happier than goading her at least once every time I see her. The best part is that everyone in the family knows that I do it on purpose just to get a rise out of her. For example, at a gathering a month ago, her father and I were chatting and walking and came upon her and her mom preparing some food in the kitchen. I motioned to her mom and dad to watch her reatcion, since they know I like to get her going (all in fun), and I stated loudly and painfully obviously, "It's nice to see a women who knows where she belongs; here in the kitchen." I'll tell you, if looks could kill. Smiley: lol

#9 Aug 15 2006 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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Not that there aren't militant people of every sociopolitical bent out there, it's just that in this case, it's become almost synonymous with the movement, which is sad. A feminist is just a person who believes that women should be afforded the same opportunities as men. Hell, it could even be a man. Nowadays, so many women are afraid of this label because it carries the 'feminazi' stigma.
#10 Aug 15 2006 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Not that there aren't militant people of every sociopolitical bent out there, it's just that in this case, it's become almost synonymous with the movement, which is sad. A feminist is just a person who believes that women should be afforded the same opportunities as men. Hell, it could even be a man. Nowadays, so many women are afraid of this label because it carries the 'feminazi' stigma.


But it lends to all the truths in the modern world:

All muslims are terrorists
All blacks are gangbangers
All whites are either in the KKK or are NeoNazis
All feminists are Feminazis
All poofters are bottoms
All drugs are bad m'kay
All immigrants "tek r jubs"
All Mexicans can do is mow lawns and cut-joo
All French people are surrender-monkeys
etcetera, etcetera..

Simple life's truths. Smiley: wink2
#11 Aug 15 2006 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Well, at least now I feel secure in my knowledge that all bikers are secretly homosexuals.
#12 Aug 15 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
I forgot to mention the most important one:

Hierarchy of who's always right:

Elderon > Women > Everyone else > Gbaji







Edited, Aug 15th 2006 at 11:27am EDT by Elderon
#13 Aug 15 2006 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
Samira wrote:
I think you put way too much emphasis on marketing slogans.
Marketing slogans is a good indicator of consumer mentality. Slogans are very important because they engrain brand recognition.

Some examples of recognized brands over the years: (If you can answer these questions or finish these sentences then you paid just as much attention

How do you spell relief? R-O-L-A-I-D-S

Catch the wave: Coke

What is the choice of a new generation? Pepsi

Just do what? Nike

Maybe she's born with it: Maybelline
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#14 Aug 15 2006 at 1:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
I think you put way too much emphasis on marketing slogans.
Find me a commercial where the savvy man has to explain to his mongloid wife how the TV remote operates or which motor oil to buy or the difference between lighter fluids.

Because Madison Avenue has already taught me that modern man, while capable of walking on the moon, can't tell the difference between Wizzo Ultra With Advanced Fabric Guard and a dented white box labeled "Detrjent Stuff" without help from his wife Smiley: dubious


I agree with you that commercials pander to women. Women spend the money, typically, and Madison Avenue knows which side of the bread's buttered.

How much does advertising shape opinion? Not of products, but of society? The point of an ad is to get the product name into the public conciousness, not to raise that conciousness to any perceptible degree.
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#15 Aug 15 2006 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's another example of political correctness ruining a good brand advertisement!
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#16 Aug 16 2006 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good
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Feminist b1tches are just Mrs. Cleavers who haven't had a large helping of Totem cack. Once broken in they bake pies and make sammiches with the best of 'em.

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#17 Aug 16 2006 at 10:38 PM Rating: Default
Well I guess the opposite is still true, how many ads go out of their way to portray women as sluts?

The country music channel has an ad asking can a woman bring home the bacon?

Then a scantily clad women with pigs under ech arm gets out of a ute...sexist much.

Speaking as a feminist myself, I have to declare that I find Felicity Kendall sweetily pretty and I want to protect her.
#18 Aug 19 2006 at 11:15 AM Rating: Default
Oh great, now we'll be "personkind" and "hupersons" (replacing "mankind" and "humans")
#19 Aug 19 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Zurckoneos wrote:
Oh great, now we'll be "personkind" and "hupersons" (replacing "mankind" and "humans")


What, now these changes are suddenly going to happen, when they didn't happen forty years ago? Please stop being stupid.

I realize I may be asking you to stop being. I'm okay with that.
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#21 Aug 19 2006 at 4:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm a troglodyte who would never consider listening to a woman I didn't want to fUck. Heck, even then I'd only listen to her long enough to fUck her, then, you know, fUck her. Lolbifrons, I'm so edgy and interesting!


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#22 Aug 19 2006 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Not really an ad slogan, but I do despise the term "feminazi". It's some idiot's version of what feminism is, and I hate to see that stereotype perpetuated.



Flea, the term is sometimes used incorrectly. But this means there are no feminazis out there? Come on. That term was coined to refer to people who were clearly not seeking "fairness" between the sexes - but rather unfairness, retribution - or some other bizarre extreme.

It's not some idiot's version of feminism. It's a desription of the excessive tripe which *some* idiot-feminists (extremist ones) stoop.

There are no sacred cows. Just because a movement is basically good doesn't mean "anything can be done in the name of that movement."

Anything can be abused. Anything.
#23 Aug 19 2006 at 4:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, it was coined by that paragon of highminded fairness, Rush Limbaugh.

No agenda there, nope, nope.

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Good point, Samira - yet - all people who wear the "femenist" hat are reasonable and rational? Yeah, if people are only focusing on the extremists like Rush, it's an attack. But just like Rush gets attacked for being a jerk, there are extremist-fems who get and deserve to be attacked. If it's a case of a few bad apples, the good apples ought to do a better job of distancing themselves from the loonies - something I honestly haven't seen them trying to do.
#25 Aug 19 2006 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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Good point, Samira - yet - all people who wear the "femenist" hat are reasonable and rational? Yeah, if people are only focusing on the extremists like Rush, it's an attack. But just like Rush gets attacked for being a jerk, there are extremist-fems who get and deserve to be attacked. If it's a case of a few bad apples, the good apples ought to do a better job of distancing themselves from the loonies - something I honestly haven't seen them trying to do.
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#26 Aug 19 2006 at 8:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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EvilGnomes wrote:
Good point, Samira - yet - all people who wear the "femenist" hat are reasonable and rational? Yeah, if people are only focusing on the extremists like Rush, it's an attack. But just like Rush gets attacked for being a jerk, there are extremist-fems who get and deserve to be attacked. If it's a case of a few bad apples, the good apples ought to do a better job of distancing themselves from the loonies - something I honestly haven't seen them trying to do.


Then put away the tar mop and call them by name.
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