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#27 Aug 08 2006 at 1:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Being Obtuse, intentionally most likely. Perhaps its an attempt at humor, but even thats doubtful since the product comes off about as funny as a birth defect.
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#29 Aug 08 2006 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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#34 Aug 08 2006 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
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#35 Aug 08 2006 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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One thing that would be useful for makign book suggestions: what do you like to read usually? I can suggest lots of books, but if you hate sci fi, it's all for naught.


True enough. I enjoy sci-fi and fantasy, but have found the bulk of the fantasy that I've come across in the last twenty years to be worthless. Some recent exceptions would be The Ill Made Muteand its sequels, J. Carey's Kushiel books, and most of Guy Gavriel Kay's stuff.

I've read pretty much all of the classic sci-fi and fantasy (Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Bradbury, Howard, Tolkien, Moorcock, Le Guin, McCaffrey etc). I find most of the modern, successful fantasy writers to be unsuitable to my tastes ( Eddings, Jordan, Salvatore, Hickman/Weiss/Lackey). Ijust finished the fourth in George R. R. Martin's series, and it was good enough to keep me interested in the next in the series. I like Dave Duncan, but David Gemmell just never really grabbed my interest.

I also love history and biographies.


The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran - read this during my spiritual phase.
The Autobiography of Malcom X- this I'll probably pich up
Jesus: Son of Man by Kahlil Gibran- my spiritual phase didn't last long enough for mr to get to this one.
Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole - read this one too.

Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop.- I'll check it out.

Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs & Steel- ditto

Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal- I've read a few of Moore's other books, but not this one. He's hysterical.

George R.R. Martin, Kate Forsyth, Rhapsody, by Elizabeth Haydon, and Dagger Spell, along with its 15 books after, by Katherine Kerr
- just finished Martin, have read much Kerr over the years. I'll check out Forsyth and Haydon

Faust - I'm on heavy duty painkillers - no way I'd be able to read this and stay awake.

Turn of the *****, In the mouth of madness
- never heard of either, I'll check them out.

Do Androids dream of electric sheep - read it and everything else of ****'s that I've been able to find

Robin Hobb farseer trilogy, a rather depressing and painfull read yet enjoyable in a faintly masocistic way. If you like that move onto The chronicals of Thomas Covanent the unbeliever for a truely painful and heartwrenching read.
- I read the Farseer Trilogy, but couldn't get into his Liveship series. I've read all of the Covevavt books (including The Runes of the Earth) and am waiting for the next in the series.

If anything in this post makes no sense, keep in mind that I'm drugged and typing with one hand.

#36 Aug 08 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Am I the only one who finds the the Covenant series to be absurdly depressing? I only read the first trilogy. As for McCaffery, you may have already read them, but the Freedom series is easy reading and something different from dragonriders. Not too shabby. Also try some of her short stories, which are varied (I like "the girl who heard dragons"...there are some good stories in that one and only the first connects to the dragonriders series). If you can get ahold of a copy of The Anything Box, it's a good book of short stories (that I can't find, even though I own it, *fury*).

If you like history and biographies and that sort of thing you can try Nisa by Shostak or if you want to read something modern and interesting, try Everything in It's Path by Kai Erikson...about a flood and its effect on a appalachian community (trying to think of things you probably haven't read, haha, but maybe I'm boring).

Anyway, yay for variety! Hope you're all fixed up soon!

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#37 Aug 08 2006 at 8:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's the sound my collarbone made when I hit the ground yesterday morning.

I broke a collar bone, two legs, a wrist and an arm playing rugby. Luckily though, none were my own.

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Am I the only one who finds the the Covenant series to be absurdly depressing?

I did find the convenant series very dark in its character's personal struggles, but then that is =likely the appeal of the books. The author is not the worlds best writer but his characterizations of the pain and conflicts within the characters are unusual in fantasy/scifi writing, and that unexpected drakness in the stories is what drew me along in the series despite falling asleep more than once reading it.

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#38 Aug 08 2006 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I also love history and biographies.


I'd recommend Mailer's The Executioner's Song, about Gary Gilmore's death penalty case. I just finished it, and I truly believe that no matter how you feel about the death penalty it'll make you examine your stance.

For those who don't know: Gary Gilmore was a career criminal who spent something like half his life behind bars, juvenile and adult. The last time he was paroled, he moved in with a cousin in Utah to go straight. He failed, of course (or there'd be no story). He murdered two men in two separate robberies.

He was convicted and sentenced to death - all very routine. However, this was 1973, and no one had actually been executed in the US in over 10 years. A death sentence had become a de facto life sentence, and Gilmore wanted no part of that. He refused appeals, fired his attorneys when they filed routine appeals against his orders, and demanded to be put to death.

This brought up all sorts of ethical questions, not just about the death penalty but about this particular instance of it. Would the State of Utah be a partner in helping Gilmore commit suicide?

Mailer did an excellent job, in my opinion, of staying out of the story and letting the facts speak for themselves. Every individual involved, except for the victims and the executioners themselves, has a chance to tell the story from his/her own point of view. The victims' wives did grant Mailer interviews, which was damned generous of them as they had no guarantees about his intention to tell their side fairly, with all the focus being on Gilmore instead.

And at first the focus IS all on Gilmore; then, gradually, you realize that the emphasis has shifted to the process itself; finally, this was probably the first time that a serious critique of the role of the media had been undertaken. It isn't a matter of Gilmore or the victims being lost in the process - it's just that the scope keeps widening, so gradually you don't notice it at first.

Anyway, a classic at this point. Highly recommended. I'm not sure how you'd hold this behemoth up with a broken collarbone, though.
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#39 Aug 08 2006 at 8:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Okay it's been like 10 minutes and my carefully written post seems to have been eaten by a cluster@#%^er.

This sh*t done got old.

And... there it is. Did posting again force an update, or something lame like that?



Edited, Aug 8th 2006 at 9:56am EDT by Samira
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#40 Aug 08 2006 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:


I'd recommend Mailer's The Executioner's Song....

... Anyway, a classic at this point. Highly recommended. I'm not sure how you'd hold this behemoth up with a broken collarbone, though.


I read this a long time ago. I forget the name of the film maker in the book... either Lawrence or Robert Schiller... in any event he came to symbolize this entire story to me. Gary Gilmore and his crimes were pretty much forgotten in the media feeding frenzy that followed, with Schiller being the most grasping barracuda in the bunch.

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#41 Aug 08 2006 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
Well, if you like good fantasy I can suggest the two books in the Eragon seres by Christopher Paolini. Good luck with your collar bone, I was once in almost the exact same situation, down to the "shoulder immobilizer." *cough* sling! *cough*. Only difference was, I broke mine running. It'll hurt like heck for a couple of days and you'll have some trouble getting out of bed, but, as far as I remember, that's about as bad as it gets. Hope it heals quickly, good luck!
#42 Aug 08 2006 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
About two years ago I was riding my Honda Shadow 750 down the right lane of the highway when this crazy old ***** in a cadillac started to change lanes into me. There was heavy traffic with a pickup in front of me and 18 wheeler behind me, so I had nowhere to go. I blasted my horn but she just kept coming and ended up running me off the road at 65 miles an hour. I laid the bike down with my leg still under it and fractured it in 2 places. Luckily I went down on grass at 60 miles an hour instead of concrete and I only ended up with the leg and a black and blue body. The trucker got the lady's plate number (she diddn't stop, he did) and her insurance payed for everything, plus she got her liscense revoked.


Oh and on the book front, I like Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga
#43 Aug 08 2006 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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#44 Aug 08 2006 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Tom Robbins put out a collection of thoughts/wisdoms/quotes/meanderings recently called Wild Ducks Flying Backward. Definitely worth the read if you're familiar with his other work.

Here's a glowing bit of praise from a fan.

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His last novel, Villa Incognito, was pitiful, terrible, a book as useless as dykes in New Orleans. And now this, this travesty, this lie. The title implies that we're to be treated, at the very least, to short stories, but these are terrible little scraps of deep-thinking dreck that the author had been commissioned to write by various magazines and journals. The master of metaphor falls headfirst into the slung duck dung of heavyhanded, over-the-top, trying way to hard to impress witless wordplay.


#45 Aug 08 2006 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, if you like good fantasy I can suggest the two books in the Eragon seres by Christopher Paolini.




Anyone else read these? I read the first one to my son, and ... found myself laughing at it because it was frickin STAR WARS reset to fantasy. Okay, the boy and his dragon angle was different - except a boy and his light saber ... a boy and his dragon...? Anyway, if you don't nitpick, you'll see exactly what I mean. It's very Stars Wars-esque (the original SW).

OP - sorry about the old collar bone. Go for paperbacks. I'm not joking. Hardbacks can be a drag to hold up for long periods of time if yer cb's broken. Let the book rest on your chest or belly - or on a pillow on your chest or belly.

Tenn's "Of Men and Monsters" is a sci fi book that's ... well, it's got such an ironic twist in it that I loved it. William Tenn I think is the author's name. Anything by Zelazny is good.
#46 Aug 09 2006 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Just finished reading recently:

Phantom Terry Goodkind, can't wait for the last.
Hell's Angel's Hunter S. Thompson, very interesting read.
The Zombie Survival Guide Max Brooks
Good Omens Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchet, very, very funny.
When Will Jesus Bring The Porkchops? George Carlin, almost all is recycled material.

Oh and I saw Taledega Nights, almost pissed myself.

Get well soon, and consider yourself lucky it's your collarbone and not your tailbone.
#47 Aug 09 2006 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, if you like good fantasy I can suggest the two books in the Eragon seres by Christopher Paolini.




Anyone else read these? I read the first one to my son, and ... found myself laughing at it because it was frickin STAR WARS reset to fantasy. Okay, the boy and his dragon angle was different - except a boy and his light saber ... a boy and his dragon...? Anyway, if you don't nitpick, you'll see exactly what I mean. It's very Stars Wars-esque (the original SW).

OP - sorry about the old collar bone. Go for paperbacks. I'm not joking. Hardbacks can be a drag to hold up for long periods of time if yer cb's broken. Let the book rest on your chest or belly - or on a pillow on your chest or belly.

Tenn's "Of Men and Monsters" is a sci fi book that's ... well, it's got such an ironic twist in it that I loved it. William Tenn I think is the author's name. Anything by Zelazny is good.


I read Eragon when it first came out and posted a review in the sci-fi and fantasy forum, which said...

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In short, its dull, pedictable and formulaic. Yet another young orphan is heir to yet another long lost heroic legacy. The old man in the town just happens to be the last surviving member of the order the kid is supposed to re-establish. Yada yada yada.

Insert new foul race of cannon fodder minions (Urgals), supposedly wicked, subtle and evil Lieutenant (Durza the Shade), one long lost half-brother (Murtagh), hot kick-*** elf chick, shake well and out comes.... another wretched series of books.


Its not only Star Wars all over again, but uses the same basic premise as Jordan, Eddings and half a dozen other authors. Yawn.
#48 Aug 09 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you want an unusual and quite good fantasy book, try "On a Pale Horse" by Piers Anthony. About a guy who kills Death when his time comes to die and has to assume his duties. Very nicely done, in fact it is a series:

INCARNATIONS OF IMMORTALITY Series by Piers Anthony
-On a Pale Horse
-Bearing an Hourglass
-With a Tangled Skein
-Wielding a Red Sword
-Being a Green Mother
-For Love of Evil Morrow
-And Eternity Morrow

Edited, Aug 9th 2006 at 9:03am EDT by fhrugby
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