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#27 Aug 03 2006 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmmm...American history?

Civil War
Great Depression
Vietnam
Invention of computer
9/11

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#28 Aug 03 2006 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
20th century events that shaped America, eh?

WWII

Cold War

Our involvement in Iran since the early 1950's, starting with re-installing the Shah to power. (boy was THAT a **** in a flaming paper bag we shouldn't have stepped on)

Civil Rights.

Women's Suffrage.




As a 6th, Christopher Walken was born.
#29 Aug 03 2006 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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Care to explain how space exploration outweighs the Great Depression, the Television, Penecilin, the Human Geonome Project, Mass Production, and just about every other significant event in the 1900's?
I'd say satellite technology had much more influence on the United States in the 20th century than the Human Geonome Project did.
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#30 Aug 03 2006 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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Our involvement in Iran since the early 1950's, starting with re-installing the Shah to power. (boy was THAT a **** in a flaming paper bag we shouldn't have stepped on)


Why? Then a pro soviet ruler would have been installed with all the ramifications thereof and the soviets would not have sat on its thumbs, like Carter did, wondering what to do while Islamic mitants overthrew thier ally, tanks would have rolled.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:29pm EDT by fhrugby
#31 Aug 03 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Our involvement in Iran since the early 1950's, starting with re-installing the Shah to power. (boy was THAT a **** in a flaming paper bag we shouldn't have stepped on)


Why? Then a pro soviet ruler would have been installed with all the remifciation thereof and the soviets would have not sit on its thumbs like Carter did wondering what to do while Islamic mitants overthrew thier ally, tanks would have rolled.


Soviet links have yet to be proven (Also, probably not going to find out if there were or not, since it's been a good 53 years since that happened. McCarthyism says there is, the facts are inconclusive at best). Granted, he was very open to communist ways of dealing with the economy and such (nationalization of their oil industry), but communism does not a red-ally make.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:41pm EDT by Althrun
#32 Aug 03 2006 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tare wrote:
Hmmm...American history?

Civil War
Great Depression
Vietnam
Invention of computer
9/11

Ha, Tare!!! I heart you. Only you could have done me one better!


Haha, I heart you too! Would you still heart me if you knew that I considered putting stuffed crust pizza on there?
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#33 Aug 03 2006 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Demea the Irrelevant wrote:
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In no particular order:

womens suffrage
Civil Rights movement
Space exploration
Invention of the internet
WW2

Care to explain how space exploration outweighs the Great Depression, the Television, Penecilin, the Human Geonome Project, Mass Production, and just about every other significant event in the 1900's?

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:18pm EDT by Demea




The set up of NASA and space exploration is an astounding accomplishment for the 20th century and Americans were one of the pioneers. Because of our ability to start exploring space, along with the technology boom, we've been able to study more closely the effects that the sun and solar system have on our own planet, and thus, our lives. We now have a much stronger understanding of how vast our universe is, and where we fit into it, and we have barely scratched the surface. There is still so much out there for us to learn. It may not have given us the convieniance of Mass Production, penecilin was *not* a US discovery by any means, television was big, but I think in the long run this could be bigger. If anything I would put the telephone before television since it was the first fast mass communicater, bringing people from all over the world closer, well before television.. As for the Human Genome project, it was not even completed until 2003, technically I would consider it to be a finished 21st century accomplishment, not 20th.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:55pm EDT by DSD
#34 Aug 03 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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If we're talking 20th Century, and the world (as opposed to USA):

1. Powered Flight and subsequent avionics

2. The Contraceptive Pill and its impact on the liberation of wimmins

3. Yalta.

4. The release of Mandela and the dismantling of Apartheid (The ripples across the African continent are only just starting to be felt)

5. The Western imposition of David Ben Gurion and the state of Israel in the middle of the Islamic Middle-east

Hitler's holocaust came close.

If it were USA I'd replace Mandela with Rosa Parks but that was the USA catching up with everywhere but South Africa. Mandela was the last bastage of state authorised racial segregation in a world class economy.

Edited to add: OP said "the nation" so take Rosa over Nelson

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 3:05pm EDT by Nobby
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#35 Aug 03 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Haha, I heart you too! Would you still heart me if you knew that I considered putting stuffed crust pizza on there?
What, was deep dish in the 19th century?
#36 Aug 03 2006 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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If we're talking 20th Century, and the world (as opposed to USA):

1. Powered Flight and subsequent avionics

2. The Contraceptive Pill and its impact on the liberation of wimmins

3. Yalta.

4. The release of Mandela and the dismantling of Apartheid (The ripples across the African continent are only just starting to be felt)

5. The Western imposition of David Ben Gurion and the state of Israel in the middle of the Islamic Middle-east
All the bolded ones came up last night in our personal conversation, but I think we both groaned a bit at coming up with an argument for the Middle East, Mandela was nixed because it was in Africa, and although I mentioned th Wright Brothers, there seemed to be other things that surpassed them when looking at a Top 5.

On a side note, Bush isn't a fan of Yalta.
#37 Aug 03 2006 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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but I think in the long run this could be bigger. If anything I would put the telephone before television since it was the first fast mass communicater, bringing people from all over the world closer, well before television.. As for the Human Genome project, it was not even completed until 2003, technically I would consider it to be a finished 21st century accomplishment, not 20th.

So, the Human Geonome Project was completed in the 21st century, although started in the 20th, but space exploration, which according to you has only just begun, is a 20th century marvel?

Smiley: dubious
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#38 Aug 03 2006 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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If anything I would put the telephone before television since it was the first fast mass communicater
Telephone was 1876+ though.
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#39 Aug 03 2006 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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King Nobby wrote:
If we're talking 20th Century, and the world (as opposed to USA):

1. Powered Flight and subsequent avionics

2. The Contraceptive Pill and its impact on the liberation of wimmins

3. Yalta.

4. The release of Mandela and the dismantling of Apartheid (The ripples across the African continent are only just starting to be felt)

5. The Western imposition of David Ben Gurion and the state of Israel in the middle of the Islamic Middle-east
All the bolded ones came up last night in our personal conversation, but I think we both groaned a bit at coming up with an argument for the Middle East, Mandela was nixed because it was in Africa, and although I mentioned th Wright Brothers, there seemed to be other things that surpassed them when looking at a Top 5.

On a side note, Bush isn't a fan of Yalta.
I attribute the subsequent advances in Silicone, Radio and TV technology to the requirements of advancing avionics. cause - effect - mehh

I also believe the ripples from Yalta & Palestine (can't be separated after Yalta and Chequers) were instrumental in the rise and fall of the Soviet Bloc, Cold War, and Milli Vanilli

As for Yalta:

Americans should hang their heads in shame at Roosevelt falling under Uncle Joe's spell (He saw USSR as an antidote to imperialism, bless the old fart).

We Brits should do the same that Churchill let Alcohol and Pride come in the way of holding the line he intended for Yalta. Just because Stalin took the **** and Winny took it personally and spat his comforter out.
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#40 Aug 03 2006 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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but I think in the long run this could be bigger. If anything I would put the telephone before television since it was the first fast mass communicater, bringing people from all over the world closer, well before television.. As for the Human Genome project, it was not even completed until 2003, technically I would consider it to be a finished 21st century accomplishment, not 20th.


So, the Human Geonome Project was completed in the 21st century, although started in the 20th, but space exploration, which according to you has only just begun, is a 20th century marvel?


You're comparing an entire category of scientific study with one subcategory og another, namely biology. If I were to have said the study of Mars, then you may havbe a point. Otherwise it's moot.
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If anything I would put the telephone before television since it was the first fast mass communicater

Telephone was 1876+ though.



and it is also not on my list


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and it is also not on my list
You brought it up! Smiley: mad
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#42 Aug 03 2006 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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and it is also not on my list
You brought it up! Smiley: mad
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#43 Aug 03 2006 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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The telephone may have been invented in the 19th century but the infrastructure to use the telephone for mass communication was not put into place until the 20th century. A similiar arguement could be said of the automoblie it was invented in 19th century, but it was not until the assembly line in the 20th century that it could be built in the numbers to make an impact on the US or the World.
#44 Aug 03 2006 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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TV - For dumbing down our nation and its politics
The Cold War - For establishing a national atmosphere of fear that's never really ended
Instant Communication - Internet + Cell Phones = total revamp of world operations
Civil Rights Movements - Women + Non-Whites = Politicians have to pander a hell of a lot more
Assembly Line - Increase production and cheapness, and drive new technology production way forward, at only the cost of human decency!
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
All the bolded ones came up last night in our personal conversation, but I think we both groaned a bit at coming up with an argument for the Middle East, Mandela was nixed because it was in Africa, and although I mentioned th Wright Brothers, there seemed to be other things that surpassed them when looking at a Top 5.
Basically, it's a poorly worded question but I understand why he wrote it as he did.

It's poorly worded because you really can't compare F. Roosevelt to assembly lines to the 1991 Gulf War to birth control pills. Asking someone to intelligently rank them is an exercise in futility.

On the other hand, it's a low level class and he's just trying to get 20-odd students to think about what's been important in the last hundred years and why. It's not as though he's going to subtract points for ranking the internet above prohibition.
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#46 Aug 03 2006 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
I wrote lots and lots of sentences, yet Nobby can't follow more than a few words because Susannah Hofs has mesmerised him
It's a fair cop
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Jophiel wrote:
I wrote lots and lots of sentences, yet Nobby can't follow more than a few words because Susannah Hofs has mesmerised him
It's a fair cop
Flea is demanding that I make her a George Michael clip avatar now as fair play.
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#48 Aug 03 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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It's not as though he's going to subtract points for ranking **** above b33r.


fixed for our 21st century readers.
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Flight (including spaceflight)
Semiconductors (CRT's or Vaccume tubes would have been close second choices)
Pong
The cold war, due to the technological ramp up it generated.
Wireless communication technology.

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#50 Aug 03 2006 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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On the other hand, it's a low level class and he's just trying to get 20-odd students to think about what's been important in the last hundred years and why. It's not as though he's going to subtract points for ranking the internet above prohibition.
I would think that the only thing that would subtract points is not being able to coherently defend your stance.
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