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#27 Jul 27 2006 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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So he'll come to another funeral?

Dr. Martha Stout theorizes that psychopaths are emotionally infantile - self centered, impulsive, cognitively capable of understanding that actions have consequences but emotionally unable to grasp that those consequences matter.

My own theory is that there are degrees of psychopathy - that it's not on/off but a continuum. Hard to test that, though.
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#28 Jul 27 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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So he'll come to another funeral?
Not just to another funeral. The reasoning stands to say that he knew her mother, because he heard of her death and attended the funeral, so there was a high probability he would also come to a funeral for someone in the same family. No compunction about killing, no guilt or love for her sister, just an objective and the shortest distance from point A to point B.

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Dr. Martha Stout theorizes that psychopaths are emotionally infantile - self centered, impulsive, cognitively capable of understanding that actions have consequences but emotionally unable to grasp that those consequences matter.

My own theory is that there are degrees of psychopathy - that it's not on/off but a continuum. Hard to test that, though.
Part of being charming is being an exceptionally good actor. They know what sane is, and they know how to act it if need be, and if it suits their purpose.
#29 Jul 27 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Part of being charming is being an exceptionally good actor. They know what sane is, and they know how to act it if need be, and if it suits their purpose.


Yep. And that same protective coloration lets them manipulate and con others to an amazing degree. They know, or can calculate, what you want them to say; they have no compunction about saying it, whatever it is. That's one reason they're difficult to test with any validity.

Everyone reading this has probably known a psychopath, without realizing it at the time - possibly never realizing it.

The other thing to remember is that the vast majority of psychopaths are not violent criminals. They're conniving bastards, but if it's easy to get their way legally, why not? There's no compulsion to break laws - just no restraint against it, either. Law, politics, business are all perfectly legitimate undertakings where they can shine with their superb gamesmanship.
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#30 Jul 27 2006 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
I've always had difficulty determining the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath, and I'm too lazy to do the research myself. Plus, you gals seem to thoroughly enjoy the subject, so care to enlighten me? Thanks.
#31 Jul 27 2006 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's the same thing. "Sociopath" is the older term.
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#32 Jul 27 2006 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
So that prison shrink was just old-fashioned, thanks.
#33 Jul 27 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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So that prison shrink was just old-fashioned, thanks.
Or, the book you're reading was written before The Great War!
#34 Jul 27 2006 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
I've wonderd ever since a friend of mine from the highschool days was released fom the pen and came to relate to me that he had been diagnosed as a sociopath, but that it wasn't as bad as being a psychopath because he could still change. Apparently he was told that a psychopath was that way forever, while a path of the socio variety could get better. He's back in prison now for robbing liquor stores in Kansas, so I guess he was misinformed.

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#35 Jul 27 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe not so much misinformed as lying to you. There is no "getting better." They are what they are.
#36 Jul 27 2006 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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No f'uckin' way would I reminisce about my dead children with the woman that killed them.


its just plain f'king weird. Words cant describe how weird though (even though the preceeding sentence attempted to). Another feeling comes to mind if I were 'Rusty'.. hmm i think its called burning hatred.

Reminiscing...

Andrea: Hey rusty, remember that time I drowned our kids?
Rusty: Yeah, good times.


The whole thing is sick.


#37 Jul 27 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
I'll bet she has excellent business cards though.
#38 Jul 27 2006 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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I went to school with Rusty. (he was two years ahead of me) I think he was voted Most Likely to Succeed. He was a great guy, and I hate that he's been through this.
#39 Jul 27 2006 at 3:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Maybe not so much misinformed as lying to you. There is no "getting better." They are what they are.


Maybe a little of both. I'm not sure the condition is irreversible, but there would certainly be little motive on the part of the psychopath to change.
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