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#27 Jul 20 2006 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
All that this is saying, is that the one most fit for survival thrive and the other ones do not...
Within their niche, anyway. Short-legged finches thrive in the forest bottom niche while long-legged finches thrive in the field niche.
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I do not see any need for "mutation" there to make it a viable concept.
The random finches with shorter legs and thicker beaks were mutations from the beginning field variety. Also, keep in mind that I exaggerated the scenario for ease of explanation.

The "somehow more were born" bit is easily explained. If a change/mutation allows an organism to be more successful within its niche or allows it to move into another niche where it becomes successful, it will be more likely to breed and spread its genes to its offspring.
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#28 Jul 20 2006 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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So going back to the article....

Our ability to map the genome of the Neanderthal and compare to our own genome would allow us to see what mutations and gene combinations we might share with them (meaning we inherited those genes and are direct descendents), and also what they share with earlier relatives such as chimps. As the articles says:

teh article of teh sienz wrote:
Approximately 99% of the **** sapiens genome is identical to the chimpanzee genome, our closest living relative. It is estimated that the Neandertal shares 96% of the 1% difference with **** sapiens. The Neandertal shares the remaining 4% of the difference with the chimpanzee.

"The analysis of the estimated 4% of genome variation that Neandertal shares with the chimpanzee will help us to understand the evolution of characteristics specific to the **** sapiens and perhaps even aspects of cognitive function," added Dr. Paabo. "This next leap in Neandertal research will also identify those genetic changes that enabled modern humans to leave Africa and rapidly spread around the world."


To me, the most shocking part is that they found any Neanderthal DNA to begin with. Ancient DNA is very hard to come by since it doesn't survive through the ages very well.

#29 Jul 20 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, good thing that one Neanderthal had a sap fetish so his ******* would be preserved in amber, huh?
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#30 Jul 20 2006 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Good idea.

Heading out to the plaza to preserve my DNA in some tree sap..... brb.






#31 Jul 20 2006 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Yeah, good thing that one Neanderthal had a sap fetish so his ******* would be preserved in amber, huh?


Please tell me that is not really where they got the DNA?
#32 Jul 20 2006 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
I'm getting all misty-eyed just thinking of grandpa Barkingturtle and the way he used to saw away at trees.

*Sniff*
#33 Jul 20 2006 at 5:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
I'm getting all misty-eyed just thinking of grandpa Barkingturtle and the way he used to saw away at trees.

*Sniff*


And I am sure that if he was sawing with his junk, he was getting misty-eyed too.
#34 Jul 20 2006 at 6:05 PM Rating: Default
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Samira, tch tch - it comes from their bones, not bonerz - Smiley: disappointed

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When an organism dies, its tissues are overrun by bacteria and fungi. Much of the DNA is simply destroyed, and the small amount remaining is broken into short pieces and chemically modified during the long period of fossil formation. This means that when scientists mine tiny samples of ancient bones for DNA, much of the DNA obtained is actually from contaminants such as bacteria, fungi and even scientists who have previously handled the bones.

Over the last twenty years, Dr. Paabo's research group has developed methods for demonstrating the authenticity of ancient DNA results, as well as technical solutions to the problems of working with short, chemically-modified DNA fragments. Together with 454 Life Sciences, they will now combine these methods with high-throughput DNA sequencing. By enabling a method of sequencing that is more comprehensive and less expensive than conventional sequencing methods, 454 Sequencing is well suited for such a project.

#35 Jul 20 2006 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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Samira, tch tch - it comes from their bones, not bonerz - Smiley: disappointed




What the fUck is that?
#36 Jul 20 2006 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
EvilGnomes wrote:
Samira, tch tch - it comes from their bones, not bonerz - Smiley: disappointed




What the fUck is that?

Looks like the expression of a mutated tsk tsk gene. Doubt it'll be selected.
#37 Jul 21 2006 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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The Beginning

KINESIS THE FIRST BOOK OF APES, CALLED
KINESIS



At the beginning the begging there was
nothing but a big ball of gases.
2 For a long time it just sat there
in the nothingness, getting hot-
ter and hotter.
3 Then it exploded.
4 The explosion created the
stars, which were burning bub-
bles of the first big ball of gases.
5 The stars threw out chunks of
debris that cooled and became
planets.
6 The planets spun round and
became round.

CHAPTER 2
In a remote and insignificant
sector of the universe, one
planet fell into an orbit around
its star that by accident made its
surface conducive to the molecu-
lar formations known as amino
acids.
2 Neither so close to their
planet's star as to be inciner-
ated, nor so far from it as to be
frozen, the acids survived,
3 And proceeded to combine
into new molecules of a com-
plexity advanced enough to per-
mit change and growth,
4 And meiosis, and the devel-
opment of certain other transient
characteristics of a generic na-
ture classifiable as life.

CHAPTER 3
Changing and growing and
reproducing in response to
the random stimuli of the plan-
et's chemistry, life thrived and
multiplied,
2 And spread from the hospit-
able environment of liquid oxy-
genated hydrogen where it began
to the more challenging environ-
ment of the planet's solid min-
eral masses.
3 The new environment stimu-
lated further molecular changes
that enabled living organisms to
increase dramatically in size and
complexity.
4 The organisms grew bigger
and bigger,
5 And then much much bigger,
6 And even bigger than that, un-
til some of the many life-forms
on the planet's surface were so
enormous as to be dinosaurs.

CHAPTER 4
The dinosaurs were gigantic
scaly beasts with infinitely
small brains and infinitely large
appetites, both for plants and for
each other.
2 Created by numerous acci-
dents of evolution, the dinosaurs
managed to become extinct, not
by accident, but by their own
stupidity.
3 The dinosaurs ate all of the
plants in their environment and
soon starved stupidly to death.
4 When the dinosaurs became
extinct, other smaller life-forms
became dominant on the planet's
surface.

CHAPTER 5
These other smaller life
forms were mammals,
which had hairy bodies, warm
blood, and small brains that
were nevertheless larger than the
brains of the dinosaurs
2 Over a long period of time
after the dinosaurs became ex-
tinct, the hairy bodies of the
mammals grew bigger and big-
ger, until there were many large
animals on the planet's surface.
3 And some of these were very
big indeed and something like
elephants, and some of them
were something like cattle, and
some of them were something
like pigs,
4 And others of them were still
quite small and something like
rats and cats and dogs.
5 And a lot of them were a lot
like monkeys.

CHAPTER 6
And the ones that were like
monkeys had brains that
were quite large.
2 And some of these grew quite
big and lost their tails, so that
they were no longer monkeys,
but apes.
3 And the apes thrived and
multiplied, surviving even unto
the present age.
4 And with the coming of the
apes, the period of time that
was the beginning of the earth
ended.


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#38 Jul 23 2006 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Being born with red hair and green eyes would not make you a genetic mutant, as the genes for red hair and green eyes are both well established and inherited as with any other gene.

Being born with green hair and red eyes, on the other hand, either means that you`re a genetic mutant or that you live in a Japanese cartoon.

Edited, Jul 23rd 2006 at 11:10am EDT by shadowvincent
#39 Jul 23 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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shadowvincent wrote:

Being born with green hair and red eyes, on the other hand, either means that you`re a genetic mutant or that you live in a Japanese cartoon.


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