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So...'we' are better than 'them' are we?
NWS. not in a grisly way, but maybe....welll use your own judgement.
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"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
What makes you think these are real? They might be, but if I were a Hezbollah propagandist - how hard would it be to get some kids who look like this in Lebanon? It wouldn't be. And how hard would it be to get some rather old-tech looking bombs? It wouldn't be. Getting a camera might be hardest - but if I were a determined terrorist - I'd figure it out somehow....
EvilGnomes said:
Oh God! We're all doomed...
See the tank in the background of the 3rd pic? Pay attn you dork.
Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 3:45am EDT by paulsol
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What makes you think these are real? They might be, but if I were a Hezbollah propagandist - how hard would it be to get some kids who look like this in Lebanon? It wouldn't be. And how hard would it be to get some rather old-tech looking bombs? It wouldn't be. Getting a camera might be hardest - but if I were a determined terrorist - I'd figure it out somehow....
Oh God! We're all doomed...
See the tank in the background of the 3rd pic? Pay attn you dork.
Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 3:45am EDT by paulsol
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
I don't know what is actually being written on the shells and if it has anything to do with Israeli children wishing death on other children, but I'll assume it's not about kittens and ducklings whatever it is.
However, I see two immediate points:
(a) The photos were of the same two girls, there with (presumably) their mothers. While it doesn't excuse the two girls, it's not as if a classroom of children was there. Two girls being taught what we assume they're being taught is a shame but it's not indicative of anything.
(b) The dead children photos were just added for extra effect. For all you know, the shells in question have not been fired or killed terrorists or landed in the street or who knows what. Tacking the dead children photos onto the end just made the whole thing extra glurgey.
However, I see two immediate points:
(a) The photos were of the same two girls, there with (presumably) their mothers. While it doesn't excuse the two girls, it's not as if a classroom of children was there. Two girls being taught what we assume they're being taught is a shame but it's not indicative of anything.
(b) The dead children photos were just added for extra effect. For all you know, the shells in question have not been fired or killed terrorists or landed in the street or who knows what. Tacking the dead children photos onto the end just made the whole thing extra glurgey.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Upon closer look, it seems that she's writing "To Jazrala with love from Israel and Danielle". A few seconds of quick study says that "Jazrala" is not a common name (Google has three hits, all related to the photo) and not Hebrew.
I've seen opined that little Danielle meant to write "Nazrala" (i.e. Nasrallah) instead since he's the dink leading the Hezbollah which makes sense to me since I have a seven year old and know how well he spells sometimes. I certainly can't prove that this is the case but I don't know a better explanation for the seemingly nonsense word "Jazrala".
Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 9:49am EDT by Jophiel
I've seen opined that little Danielle meant to write "Nazrala" (i.e. Nasrallah) instead since he's the dink leading the Hezbollah which makes sense to me since I have a seven year old and know how well he spells sometimes. I certainly can't prove that this is the case but I don't know a better explanation for the seemingly nonsense word "Jazrala".
Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 9:49am EDT by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
So I'm supposed to be outraged right?
I got this in a mass e-mail the other day from an eBay vendor I did business with a few months ago. He's gonna get a bad rating!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
I'm outraged at an Israeli educational system that sends forth its young scholars spelling "whit".
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
It's not like arab countries aren't spewing the same hatred message.
I remember seeing a news report a while back (not even sure how many years ago) about Iraqi schools teaching kids hate for America and all infidels.
I think they are both in the wrong in that situation. But I guess when you've been brought up your whole life being told that the other side is the debil and must die you tend to believe it.
What I'm personally hoping for is that America doesn't get directly involved. I just don't see too much good that would come from it.
I remember seeing a news report a while back (not even sure how many years ago) about Iraqi schools teaching kids hate for America and all infidels.
I think they are both in the wrong in that situation. But I guess when you've been brought up your whole life being told that the other side is the debil and must die you tend to believe it.
What I'm personally hoping for is that America doesn't get directly involved. I just don't see too much good that would come from it.
Hatamaz wrote:
I think they are both in the wrong in that situation. But I guess when you've been brought up your whole life being told that the other side is the debil and must die you tend to believe it.
Damn Commies!
Wait...what decade is it? Oh yeah....damn Muzzies!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
What if this were a photo of children of sailors who'd died in Pearl Harbor writing "Death to Tojo!" on bombs that were about to be shipped out to a B-29 base in 1944? So what? These people are locked in conflict and have been for decades. This may never end. You're just projecting your tea-party moral standards on a hell hole - and leaping to unfounded conclusions.
I can't tell whose tank that is, by the way. Maybe I need a better monitor. But the entire stinking region is filled with tanks and apc's.
It's a propaganda site, as I think Joph pointed out - and yeah, it's terrible that children or anyone is getting killed. But if my dad had been killed in Pearl Harbor and I saw bombs being shipped to be used on the Japanese - hell yes I would have written something nasty on them if given the chance. How about you? You wouldn't? You're really that saintly (or devoid of emotion)?
I can't tell whose tank that is, by the way. Maybe I need a better monitor. But the entire stinking region is filled with tanks and apc's.
It's a propaganda site, as I think Joph pointed out - and yeah, it's terrible that children or anyone is getting killed. But if my dad had been killed in Pearl Harbor and I saw bombs being shipped to be used on the Japanese - hell yes I would have written something nasty on them if given the chance. How about you? You wouldn't? You're really that saintly (or devoid of emotion)?
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I think the photos are fake. Why else would the Israeli kids useing english instead of hebrew?
Pfffft. Big deal. In every war soldiers sign munitions with personal messages to the recipients of said explosives. The only thing odd is that they let kids near an ammo dump.
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First off, the second "victims" photo is the same as the last.
Second, There's nothing to show that this was taken in Israel. It could be American kids being allowed to write on de-milled artillary shells at a decommishioned military base.
There's simply not way to know.
And of course Israeli children are taught to hate Araba and Palistinians especially, the Arabs are trying to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Same as the Arab children are learning to hate Israelis.
What is really troubling is the fact that Canadian kids are being taught to hate America. It's high time we invaded Canada and shoved democracy down their throats.
Unless of course they use the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, then we're screwed.
Second, There's nothing to show that this was taken in Israel. It could be American kids being allowed to write on de-milled artillary shells at a decommishioned military base.
There's simply not way to know.
And of course Israeli children are taught to hate Araba and Palistinians especially, the Arabs are trying to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Same as the Arab children are learning to hate Israelis.
What is really troubling is the fact that Canadian kids are being taught to hate America. It's high time we invaded Canada and shoved democracy down their throats.
Unless of course they use the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, then we're screwed.
Drayfitt wrote:
First off, the second "victims" photo is the same as the last.
Psst... so is the third.
But let's assume that those are, in fact, little Israeli's sending their best wishes to little Hezbollites (or whatever one would call them). There is only one question that needs be asked.... Who cares?
As has been pointed out, this sort of has been done before, and probably dates back to the invention of the catapult. Ain't no big deal.
ok if this was taken in israel, then why are they writting in english and not in the native langue of the land?
just asking...
just asking...
Singdall wrote:
ok if this was taken in israel, then why are they writting in english and not in the native langue of the land?
just asking...
just asking...
I was wondering that myself, though, judging by the way she spelled "With" ("Whit") it may be for... Picture purposes? Like someone said, some sort of propaganda to reach english speaking people?
Maybe the bombs themselves are meant to reach English-speaking people? What's that? THEY'RE ATTACKING US!! 
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Singdall wrote:
ok if this was taken in israel, then why are they writting in english and not in the native langue of the land?
Really, we know nothing about the girls. They could be Israeli or they could be visiting relatives from an English speaking nation. They could be the daughters, neices or even sisters of soldiers. They could be damn near anywhere and anyone. Which just makes the "This is proof of a systematic attempt to indoctrinate the Israeli children into hated!" line all the more pathetic.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Apologies for ressurecting what would be considered 'old' news. But because I think this is important. Link
My point exactly.
Quote:
"Maybe the bombs that destroyed the home of the 8-year-old girl in the southern Lebanon village of Ayta Chaeb, quoted by an AP reporter from her hospital bed in Tyre, were autographed by little Israeli girls," he wrote. "Maybe they were decorated with hearts and Stars of David. Maybe they said 'from Israel with love.'"
Koehler called this added "collateral damage: the corruption, the militarization, of the young....This is the collective obscenity of militarized hatred. It's not just a game that adults play. We pull the children into it. We extract their blessing, and far too often their blood as well....
Koehler called this added "collateral damage: the corruption, the militarization, of the young....This is the collective obscenity of militarized hatred. It's not just a game that adults play. We pull the children into it. We extract their blessing, and far too often their blood as well....
My point exactly.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Waht's this!?
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
must have missed it whilst I was riding my pegasus over the rainbow bridge.
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
must have missed it whilst I was riding my pegasus over the rainbow bridge.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
Waht's this!?
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
Quote:
must have missed it whilst I was riding my pegasus over the rainbow bridge.
Quote:
"Maybe the bombs that destroyed the home of the 8-year-old girl in the southern Lebanon village of Ayta Chaeb, quoted by an AP reporter from her hospital bed in Tyre, were autographed by little Israeli girls," he wrote. "Maybe they were decorated with hearts and Stars of David. Maybe they said 'from Israel with love.'"
Let me know when he's sure and not just throwing out conjecture to tug at the heartstrings.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Kelvyquayo wrote:
Waht's this!?
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
Children being taught violence and hatred toward people of a different culture!?
Wehn did this happen!?
Quote:
must have missed it whilst I was riding my pegasus over the rainbow bridge.
Look,
I know your Spaniard ruler Fidel is in the outs, but don't take it out on me.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
I know your Spaniard ruler Fidel is in the outs, but don't take it out on me.
paulsol wrote:
Apologies for ressurecting what would be considered 'old' news. But because I think this is important.
My point exactly.
My point exactly.
In schools in Palestine, little 6 tear old kids sing Hamas songs, and are taught by their teacher that "resistance is not terrorism". There was a TV documentary on the BBC not long ago about this school in Gaza who's headmistress was also a Hamas candidate that had been elected to the Palestinian Assembly. Outside the school were two flags of Hamas, and inside pictures of their leaders. The crew doing the documentary asked the kids in school how many would want to grow up to be fighters, and over half raised their hands.
It doesn't mean that much, but it shows that hatred towards the opposite side is instilled at a very young age. All their lives, both Israeli and Palestinian kids are taught to hate the other side. The History they are taught in school is completely one-sided. Their heros are either "martyrs" or "leaders". And, from an extrmely early age, they attend funerals of other kids killed in the conflict.
This is one of he reasons this conflict has been going on for 50 years. Kids are taught their parent's hatred. And, in the process, are condemened to the same life of hatred and death. These kids die for their parent's mistakes.
In a funny way, this kinda relates to the gay foster home parents situation. "Normality" is whatever a child grows up with. Wether it's homosexual-love, or war, or hatred, or happy-peaceful community.
Kids are the future of man. Some people have understood this far too well.
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