chevy is working on an SS (super sport) model for the corvette. it will be their top dog, far out pacing the current Z06 model.
as it stands now, they are looking at a factory supercharged big block pumping out over 600.......600.....600 horespower, off the showroom floor.
they bested the Viper with thier 505 hp Z06 model all around the clock, handeling, top end, and acceleration.
now, they are taking aim at fords 120,000 dollar GT. the current target price is around 80,000 bucks.
also rumurs of them putting the Z06 engine in a limited production of thier new Camaro to shut the doors on fords Cobra mustang. the Corvette SS is a lock, jury is still out on a nasty Camaro.
meanwhile, as the rest of the world adjusts to oil at 77 dollars a drum, and Japan is pumping out more cars that get over 40 mpg than ones that dont.......
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They can build it with as much horsepower as the average mid-life crisis man can devour, but it's still as ugly as Hillary Clinton in a Frederick's of Hollywood dressing room (or quite possibly...uglier).
shadowrelm wrote:
now, they are taking aim at fords 120,000 dollar GT. the current target price is around 80,000 bucks.
meanwhile, as the rest of the world adjusts to oil at 77 dollars a drum
meanwhile, as the rest of the world adjusts to oil at 77 dollars a drum
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and Japan is pumping out more cars that get over 40 mpg than ones that don't..
I'm all for lowering our oil dependancy. But I don't think that an over-priced niche market car is the culprit to go looking for.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I'm all for lowering our oil dependancy. But I don't think that an over-priced niche market car is the culprit to go looking for.
But if there isn't some scapegoat to blame, how do we know that the issue is important?
The 8.5 Million SUVs and Hummers sitting in City Traffic for 1+ hours a day at 11 Miles a Gallon is the killer. The SS would be more like a Toy, only taken out every once and awhile.
Soracloud wrote:
The 8.5 Million SUVs and Hummers sitting in City Traffic for 1+ hours a day at 11 Miles a Gallon is the killer.
QFT
I'm looking forward to getting a Saturn VUE Hybrid, should be out later this year.
Oh Excellent. Another muscle cart that'll hit 200 in a straight line but corner like a supermarket trolley 
I'll pass
I'll pass
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
King Nobby wrote:
Oh Excellent. Another muscle cart that'll hit 200 in a straight line but corner like a supermarket trolley
I'll pass
I'll pass
It's easier to construct straight roads when you're not soused on warm beer and sporting an umbrella in your ****.
trickybeck wrote:
King Nobby wrote:
Oh Excellent. Another muscle cart that'll hit 200 in a straight line but corner like a supermarket trolley
I'll pass
I'll pass
It's easier to construct straight roads when you're not soused on warm beer and sporting an umbrella in your ****.
Open or closed? You know...cuz...I'm just curious...
They can build it with as much horsepower as the average mid-life crisis man can devour, but it's still as ugly as Hillary Clinton in a Frederick's of Hollywood dressing room
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agree. i havent liked the looks of vetts since the 60,s. they just keep going from lame to lamer every year. the current one looks like every other sport car on the road.
but 600 hp. OMG, its a wet dream for any muscle car freak. a blown big block back in the 60,s and 70s would be happy with 500. then out it on their alluminum road racing frame of vetts today, and make the engine all alluminum to boot, it will be a road racing machine that will make all the competition beg to never let it get on a straight away side by side. they will fear the corners, and absolutly lothe the strips.
it is incredable. borderline insane.
still gona buy the new Camaro though. counting the days till august 2008 when i can order one. want a 6 speed convertable.
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agree. i havent liked the looks of vetts since the 60,s. they just keep going from lame to lamer every year. the current one looks like every other sport car on the road.
but 600 hp. OMG, its a wet dream for any muscle car freak. a blown big block back in the 60,s and 70s would be happy with 500. then out it on their alluminum road racing frame of vetts today, and make the engine all alluminum to boot, it will be a road racing machine that will make all the competition beg to never let it get on a straight away side by side. they will fear the corners, and absolutly lothe the strips.
it is incredable. borderline insane.
still gona buy the new Camaro though. counting the days till august 2008 when i can order one. want a 6 speed convertable.
Corvettes are known for their horsepower and their steering(Yes, this is a american car that can steer quite well.)
I'm not sure if adding more of a powerhouse is the answer, as I own a 97 vette, was the first year of the previous body style, as I have started enjoying the steering more then the actual top out speed of the car.
I guess if your a die hard drive it in a 1/4 mile person sure, but the vettes already have very impressive numbers, and the Z06 model already is very impressive.
The 97-05 models were the ones I liked the most, then the older ones, the newer models in my opinion lost its taste by getting rid of the hideaway headlights. I'm not too big a fan of them myself, but it is a trademark of corvettes.
I'm not sure if adding more of a powerhouse is the answer, as I own a 97 vette, was the first year of the previous body style, as I have started enjoying the steering more then the actual top out speed of the car.
I guess if your a die hard drive it in a 1/4 mile person sure, but the vettes already have very impressive numbers, and the Z06 model already is very impressive.
The 97-05 models were the ones I liked the most, then the older ones, the newer models in my opinion lost its taste by getting rid of the hideaway headlights. I'm not too big a fan of them myself, but it is a trademark of corvettes.
My dad sold his 911 two months before I turned 16. Wise Dad.
Anyway, without an Autobahn in the USA, I came to realize there's no real reason for me to own a really fast car (this is for me - for you, it may be different - and that's cool). I'm too old to imagine street racing - and there are too many cops on the highways to Vegas. You can get away w/ driving 80 mph or a little more - but 120, 140 - you just can't.
Well, this is one of the many disillusionments you face as you grow older. Just wait til you see your first gray hair....
Anyway, without an Autobahn in the USA, I came to realize there's no real reason for me to own a really fast car (this is for me - for you, it may be different - and that's cool). I'm too old to imagine street racing - and there are too many cops on the highways to Vegas. You can get away w/ driving 80 mph or a little more - but 120, 140 - you just can't.
Well, this is one of the many disillusionments you face as you grow older. Just wait til you see your first gray hair....
there is no real reason for most of the cars built in america.
most people from other countries just think we are stupid. but then, most people from other counties have never driven a muscle car......
most people from other countries just think we are stupid. but then, most people from other counties have never driven a muscle car......
shadowrelm wrote:
there is no real reason for most of the cars built in america.
most people from other countries just think we are stupid. but then, most people from other counties have never driven a muscle car......
most people from other countries just think we are stupid. but then, most people from other counties have never driven a muscle car......
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
The target consumer for this type of car is the over 40, mid-life crisis male who thinks it will get him some fine young women. That said what they really need to design is a sports car with a passenger seat that vibrates like a Harley. Now that would be a chick-magnet.
any toy that cost more than some houses is a babe magnet, weather it vibrates or not. dont believe me? just get married and you will see how much chicks care about things that vibrate, hehehe, give them a new car however.........
just look at BMW,s for example. a bottom line piece of crap that spends more time in the shop than american cars all of a sudden turns into a babe magnet when you jack the price up 200 percent over what its worth.
the only differance between that and a 600 hp corvette is atleast the guy will get a thrill out of it to boot. same with boats.
when you can launch a car and get platered to the back of the seat and actually feel the blood draining from the front of your head to the back of your head as your heart starts punding a mile a minute.....THEN you will understand.
anyone can zip around corners in a go-cart.
just look at BMW,s for example. a bottom line piece of crap that spends more time in the shop than american cars all of a sudden turns into a babe magnet when you jack the price up 200 percent over what its worth.
the only differance between that and a 600 hp corvette is atleast the guy will get a thrill out of it to boot. same with boats.
when you can launch a car and get platered to the back of the seat and actually feel the blood draining from the front of your head to the back of your head as your heart starts punding a mile a minute.....THEN you will understand.
anyone can zip around corners in a go-cart.
shadowrelm wrote:
when you can launch a car and get platered to the back of the seat and actually feel the blood draining from the front of your head to the back of your head as your heart starts punding a mile a minute.....THEN you will understand.
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shadowrelm wrote:
anyone can zip around corners in a go-cart.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
nobby, all i can say is you have never driven a post 1990 vette.
there are no european cars that corner better, not even that bmw go-cart mini thing.
adn not only do they corner better, they blow them away down the straights.
so, yes, you european car junkies wouldnt know about that. granted, the average american car still handles a little better than a sled, has **** poor gas millage, and couldnt outrun a garbage truck if it had too......but the vette is in a class almost all of its own. you would need to spend a couple hundred grand to find anything outside of this country that can out perform it on corners or down the straights. hell, ford built one that could, but it cost over 120 grand to buy, and not even ferrari,s top dog can touch the ford GT. but chevys gona touch it, and do it for 30 to 40 percent less cash.
still, i wouldnt have it. would love to drive it...once....mabe twice, but would never own one. there is not much you can do with a 600 hp racing machine unless your gona race. i would buy a nice boat long before i spent that kind of cash on a car. any car. you can get alot of boat for 80 grand, and if you buy it used, they hold their value pretty well, alot better than cars anyway.
there are no european cars that corner better, not even that bmw go-cart mini thing.
adn not only do they corner better, they blow them away down the straights.
so, yes, you european car junkies wouldnt know about that. granted, the average american car still handles a little better than a sled, has **** poor gas millage, and couldnt outrun a garbage truck if it had too......but the vette is in a class almost all of its own. you would need to spend a couple hundred grand to find anything outside of this country that can out perform it on corners or down the straights. hell, ford built one that could, but it cost over 120 grand to buy, and not even ferrari,s top dog can touch the ford GT. but chevys gona touch it, and do it for 30 to 40 percent less cash.
still, i wouldnt have it. would love to drive it...once....mabe twice, but would never own one. there is not much you can do with a 600 hp racing machine unless your gona race. i would buy a nice boat long before i spent that kind of cash on a car. any car. you can get alot of boat for 80 grand, and if you buy it used, they hold their value pretty well, alot better than cars anyway.
shadowrelm wrote:
nobby, all i can say is you have never driven a post 1990 vette.
shadowrelm wrote:
there are no european cars that corner better, not even that bmw go-cart mini thing.
If I want to go fast in a straight line, i take the train.
Take a decent Audi TT, Astra VXR, Vauxhall VX220 or even a decent spec Ford Mondeo, and on a bendy track you'd leave the vette. Seriously.
Throwing it back at you.
Ever driven a decent spec european tourer on a track or a curvy set of roads?
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
I have to agree with Nobby here. After experiencing incredible cornering over 70, my stang would be toast if I tried to drive her like Nobby drives daily. /jealous
shadowrelm wrote:
nobby, all i can say is you have never driven a post 1990 vette.
I haven't driven a Z06.
That said, I still defend the overall power & handling of european cars over american ones.
Look at that list and notice that only a small handful of the US cars tested made the top 99 (and there have been a number that were tried and failed). And look at the number of regular inexpensive euro saloon cars that made it.
But I'll concede on the Z06
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Kween Mistress Darqflame wrote:
I have to agree with Nobby here. After experiencing incredible cornering over 70. . .
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
We all know that there is NO such thing as a aftermarket suspension that could be placed on a new vette for cornering. 
Decent Audi TT... I've never seen any positive word associated with an Audi TT before um... Ever.
Thanks for breaking that wall down...
Nevermind that TT's get waxed by a del Sol... They're "decent" lol
Thanks for breaking that wall down...
Nevermind that TT's get waxed by a del Sol... They're "decent" lol
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