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#52 Jul 11 2006 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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#53 Jul 11 2006 at 12:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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they're the actions of representatives of the people that got them into office. (by which I don't exactly mean the American public)
And next week on "Let's not make any f'ucking sense", I'll be painting the smell of germs screeching.
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#54 Jul 11 2006 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I just hope all the Bush naysayers (not limited to these forums) made sure to pick up the ballet and vote for the "other guy".

Choosing not to vote is a vote for the winner really and if you didnt vote you have nobody to blame but yourself if you dont like him.

Jesus how many people like that have I encountered? Everyone ******* about Bush but when asked if they voted, "Hell no, i didnt vote."

Well, ********* you just elected the president then.

unless of course your state's votes were for the "other guy", then it really dont matter if you voted.... but i usually just leave that bit out, especially since my state, and thusly all the people i meet, voted for Bush in the first place.
#55 Jul 11 2006 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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And next week on "Let's not make any f'ucking sense", I'll be painting the smell of germs screeching.

/sigh To clarify, the majority of elections in the US are between two people that were chosen for us by the people backing the major parties. The people that get elected act as representatives of these backers.
#56 Jul 11 2006 at 1:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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KT Lane er urner wrote:
I just hope all the Bush naysayers (not limited to these forums) made sure to pick up the ballet and vote for the "other guy".
So you are saying people who are against bush should learn Ballet?

KT Lane er urner wrote:

Choosing not to vote is a vote for the winner really and if you didnt vote you have nobody to blame but yourself if you dont like him.
A comma is your friend.



Edited, Jul 11th 2006 at 2:05pm EDT by fhrugby
#57 Jul 11 2006 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Looney is as Looney does wrote:
/sigh To clarify, the majority of elections in the US are between two people that were chosen for us by the people backing the major parties. The people that get elected act as representatives of these backers.

That was even worse than your first attempt at logical discourse.

Edited, Jul 11th 2006 at 2:05pm EDT by fhrugby
#58 Jul 11 2006 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wonder what makes this thread forum=4 material?


Show me your bewbs?

Voila! Wonder no more.
#59 Jul 11 2006 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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fhrugby the Sly wrote:
KT Lane er Tuner wrote:
I just hope all the Bush naysayers (not limited to these forums) made sure to pick up the ballet and vote for the "other guy".
So you are saying people who are against bush should learn Ballet?

KT Lane er Tuner wrote:

Choosing not to vote is a vote for the winner really and if you didnt vote you have nobody to blame but yourself if you dont like him.


A comma is your friend.


meh, I generally overuse commas. lol

And yea, ballot*. Reminds me of a time I spelled "knees" as "neas". I think I might be handicapped. Give me my sign!
#60 Jul 11 2006 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Whatever admin moved this here should be hurt and not in the good Darqflame way. This is the place where you remove crappy threads from not a place where you sh*t them out like a cat in a sandbox.

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#61 Jul 11 2006 at 2:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Please keep your president "George Bush" inside your country.

The situation in Mainz/Germany, when he "paid us a visit recently", was:

- Sewer caps were being sealed.

Dear God, not the sewer caps!

Those monsters!

#62 Jul 11 2006 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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Please keep your president "George Bush" inside your country.

The situation in Mainz/Germany, when he "paid us a visit recently", was:

- Sewer caps were being sealed.

Dear God, not the sewer caps!

Those monsters!
It was either that or install large mallets over each one a la whack-a-mole.
#63 Jul 11 2006 at 2:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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- Sewer caps were being sealed.
Dear God, not the sewer caps!

Those monsters!
Why does President Bush hate the C.H.U.D.? Smiley: frown
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#64 Jul 11 2006 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
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One of the main reasons I play FFXI is so I don't have to deal with clownshoes like our president.

I prefer the alternate world.

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Haven't had many cutscenes with President Karst yet, have you?


#65 Jul 11 2006 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
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People tend to forget that the U.S. is the most powerful nation in the country...


Way to go out on a limb there.

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Do people tend to forget the conditions Iraq was in during Sadams reign? He murdered thousands, if not tens of thousands, drained his country dry, murdered his opposing political party and built seven palaces to his name.


And we supported him through this, because he stood in opposition to the fundamentalists that the Bush administration fooled morons into believing he was one of. Since the Eisenhower presidency, our Middle East strategy has been to facilitate the flow of oil out of the region by undermining any form of popular government and supporting the dictator with the most favorable terms, no matter how brutal he might be.
#66 Jul 11 2006 at 3:36 PM Rating: Default
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America in general needs to stay in it's own country, no offense but America seems to think it has the right to bully the rest of the world.

I'm sure it's not the bulk of Americans, but the government at least needs to learn it's place.



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Did not the Germans try that once, I mean twice, before?

Wouldn't there still be 2 split Germanys if not for the USA staring down the soviets during the Cold War at great expense of own money, time and lives?


Uhm...your point? Still doesn't give America the right to do so.
#67 Jul 11 2006 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Whey the hell can't we have a genious atheist run the country?


Because people don't trust atheists, and certainly not geniuses. People have trouble placing their trust in someone who doesn't trust in their own faith. In addition, a genius in a position of power might just make decisions with their head and not with their heart - killing social welfare programs because they only increase the debt burden of american taxpayers; raise taxes in order to pay down the national debt and save on increasing interest; not caring that there will be some people that barely survive on the way things work now, that would be unable to live under these changes. Besides, these things (along with a minimum wage increase) would get stopped by Congress (After a congressional pay raise approval) long before an atheist genius would ever get to sign them into law; not to mention before they'd ever get elected to office, simply because people vote the way their religious leaders and their wallets urge them to vote.

You would think that the leader of the GOP would have the overwhelming support of the people, if they were doing a good job.
Clearly this is not the case.

Edited, Jul 11th 2006 at 4:46pm EDT by Kayberry
#68 Jul 11 2006 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
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I know enough atheisits to trust any one of them over someone who blindly follows a dogma that they hippocritically use to exclude when "into God's Kingdom, everyone is welcome".

It's just as insane to state I believe in God as it is to state I don't believe in God. You can prove neither. BUT in my experience the people I don't wish to send off to get neutered and never reproduce have been aetheists moreso than religious zealots who said I was going to hell for not letting their loving God into my heart.

An atheist doesn't trust in a faith because he has no faith. They usually trust in reason and logic and personally, I'd rather have someone who is reasonable and logical and believes in themself more than they do in deity that will not help with petty human matters.

killing social welfare programs because they only increase the debt burden of american taxpayers; raise taxes in order to pay down the national debt and save on increasing interest; not caring that there will be some people that barely survive on the way things work now, that would be unable to live under these changes.


Your seeings ghosts where no one has died. If you can see the hypothetical problems you just outlined, I'm sure a genious could also see them. And overcome them through the mental prowess they would have being so damn smart. Along with being surrouned by the smartest men and women in the world. I realize having an IQ of over 200 (which should be the bare minimum if your in charge of a superpower nowadays) doesn't make you a superhero, but it certainly ******* helps.

I also realize this will never happen. Someone that smart is not so easily controlled. Perhaps if we promoted a healthy interest in the way our world runs on a global scale the way we do in game where people kick a ball back and forth (I know, I know, they do it really well) things would start to look up.

But I'm a pessimist so I wait for it all to come crashing down.




#69 Jul 11 2006 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
You think that just because someone is an American, that they are responsible for what the president does?
#70 Jul 11 2006 at 11:18 PM Rating: Default
Of course Americans are responsible for their President. The President is America to most people, remember that when you have an election next time. The President speaks for America, when people watching the news overseas see a story about America doing something they see dingus and maybe wingus or ricus. Never Cheney though, what does he actually do apart from shot people.

I hate GW, but realise that most American's thankfully aren't like him. Most American people just want a good job, loving family, a home and other ordinary stuff. To demonise a people for the actions of one is wrong, but then that is the way the world works.

To the person who said you have the most wealth people, wrong it would either be Saudi Arbia or Bahrain, those countries have more millionaires than anywhere else in the world. And congrats on making role models out of vapid, ignorant sticks, that don't do anything worthwile but act/sing or party badly.
#71 Jul 12 2006 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
A few questions:

Did Alla run an advertising campaigns in primary schools?

What are you people doing here?

Why hasn't gbaji intervened yet?

Won't somebody please think of the children?!

Why doesn't this thread make any sense what so ever?

Do you even know what you are arguing about?

Finally, any chance you'd go back to your forum? Someone is wondering if the blue dragon can AOE attack the shadow-wizard for 10gil in a retro-space temporal dimension...

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#72 Jul 12 2006 at 8:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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And we (USA) supported him (Saddam) through this, because he stood in opposition to the fundamentalists that the Bush administration fooled morons into believing he was one of. Since the Eisenhower presidency, our Middle East strategy has been to facilitate the flow of oil out of the region by undermining any form of popular government and supporting the dictator with the most favorable terms, no matter how brutal he might be.


The US supported him during the Iran-Iraq war, because at the time it was a choice between the lesser of two evils. We did not support him before or afterwards. Saddam was aligned with the soviets and against isreal for decades before the Iran-Iraq war; and we had that little invasion of Kuwait problem with saddam after the Iran-Iraq war.

It is unfortunate that we had to choose between the lesser of two evil in a region, but a pro american dictator was a better choice than a pro soviet dictatorship. The US always tried to push allied dictators towards better human rights policies and more freedom but this was greatly limited to not interfering with the alliance. The choice between the safety and freedom of the the world versus the safety and freedom of one country, has to be for the greater good, despite the fact that it means supporting a lesser evil for the duration. Remember that all the allies support Stalin and the Soviets against Hitler, and that was major support giving him money supplies and even technology. We knew that the soviets were going to be problem in the long run, but the goal of protecting the world from the ***** was more important. History is full of tough choices like this and you cannot attack these choices out of context with the greater evil we avoided with that support.



Edited, Jul 12th 2006 at 9:53am EDT by fhrugby
#73 Jul 12 2006 at 10:12 AM Rating: Default
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trickybeck wrote:
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Please keep your president "George Bush" inside your country.

The situation in Mainz/Germany, when he "paid us a visit recently", was:

- Sewer caps were being sealed.

Dear God, not the sewer caps!

Those monsters!
It was either that or install large mallets over each one a la whack-a-mole.


Best terrorist defense system...ever. After they're caught, can we put them in the water tanks on little metal seats, dress them as clowns, and throw balls at a target/lever to drop them in? I think that would be fun.
#74 Jul 12 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
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Of course Americans are responsible for their President. The President is America to most people, remember that when you have an election next time. The President speaks for America, when people watching the news overseas see a story about America doing something they see dingus and maybe wingus or ricus. Never Cheney though, what does he actually do apart from shot people.

I hate GW, but realise that most American's thankfully aren't like him. Most American people just want a good job, loving family, a home and other ordinary stuff. To demonise a people for the actions of one is wrong, but then that is the way the world works.

To the person who said you have the most wealth people, wrong it would either be Saudi Arbia or Bahrain, those countries have more millionaires than anywhere else in the world. And congrats on making role models out of vapid, ignorant sticks, that don't do anything


You gotta be kidding me. How many idiots in the world realize that inaction is not a crime? And Saudi Arabia and Bahrain do not have that many millionaires. Hell, even Russia has more millionaires than those countries. The United States alone has 12 million millionaires, which is exactly how many people Saudi Arabia has.
#75 Jul 12 2006 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry barneyemp, I should have said as a % of the population. Bahrain is a very rich country as it has a lot of oil and a very small population. My only point was that America is not the richest country in the world, a lot of US citizen live at or below the poverty line. 12 million rich people out of 260 million is not really a good result.

Inaction is not a crime, but then that was the Catholic churches excuse during the holocaust.
If you didn't vote to stop GW from being elected you can not ***** about him being in office or when other nations ***** about him.

As it was said "if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem."
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