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#1 Jul 07 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Court says stop case against rude doctor
CONCORD, N.H. - A judge has ordered the state Board of Medicine to stop disciplinary proceedings against a doctor accused of telling a patient she was so obese she might only be attractive to black men and advising another to shoot herself following brain surgery.

Judge Edward Fitzgerald made clear in a ruling released Thursday that he did not condone remarks attributed to Dr. Terry Bennett and found them unnecessary, but ruled Bennett had a right to speak bluntly.

"It is nonetheless important ... to ensure that physicians and patients are free to discuss matters relating to health without fear of government reprisal, even if such discussions may sometimes be harsh, rude or offensive to the listener," he concluded in the ruling Wednesday.

The complaints against Bennett included charges that he told a white patient that she was so obese she might only be attractive to black men.

"Let's face it, if your husband were to die tomorrow, who would want you?" the board has said Bennett told the overweight patient in June 2004. "Well, men might want you, but not the types you want to want you. Might even be a black guy," it quoted him as saying, based on the woman's complaint.

Bennett, 68, has denied making the comment, but has said he's seen polls supporting that position.

"If you look at the polling, nobody likes fat women," he said last year. "Is it right? No. Is it sensible? No. Is it true? Yeah ... Black guys are the only group that don't mind that. Is that racist to say that?"

A 2001 complaint accused Bennett of telling a woman recovering from brain surgery to buy a pistol and shoot herself to end her suffering. The doctor was also accused of speaking harshly to a woman about how her son might have contracted hepatitis, according to the ruling.

Bennett claimed victory.

"The question now is: Will the board waste more of your and my tax dollars and appeal this, or accept done as done?" he said in a telephone interview.

Fitzgerald also ruled that state and American Medical Association requirements to treat patients with "compassion and respect for human dignity and rights" are so vague they are unconstitutional. Bennett probably would have won his challenges before the board, the judge said.
Bennett said he planned to sue everyone involved for "malicious prosecution."

"I am not inclined to be forgiving about it," he said. "It's been devastating and infuriating."

Assistant Attorney General Elyse Alkalay, who represented the board in the court case, said she was reviewing the ruling and had not decided whether to appeal.

Bennett could have faced penalties ranging from a written reprimand to suspension or revocation of his medical license.

Now, I don't think he should have lost his license or had to pay large sums, but I do think some sort of sanction by the AMA or community service would have been in order here. It's one thing to speak bluntly, and another entirely to be an outright asshole. Whatever happened to bedside manner, and caring about your patients? Christ, if you hate people, why become a doctor?
#2 Jul 07 2006 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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advising another to shoot herself following brain surgery.
RACK this motherfucker. That doctor is nails!
#3 Jul 07 2006 at 9:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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"Let's face it, if your husband were to die tomorrow, who would want you?" the board has said Bennett told the overweight patient in June 2004. "Well, men might want you, but not the types you want to want you. Might even be a black guy," it quoted him as saying, based on the woman's complaint.
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#4 Jul 07 2006 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Bennett said he planned to sue everyone involved for "malicious prosecution."


Tell them they're fat and then sue them.

Class.

Edited, Jul 7th 2006 at 10:28am EDT by RedPhoenixxxxxx
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#5 Jul 07 2006 at 9:32 AM Rating: Default
Hypothetical question though...

Would you want a brilliant doctor with lousy bed-side manner or a idiot doctor with compassion?
#6 Jul 07 2006 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
House, Gregory House is that you? Pageing Dr.House.
#7 Jul 07 2006 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
I remember hearing about this prior to this article, and had a small discussion with a family member regarding it. In my personal opinion, with the amount of "fraud" in cases like this these days...it's not in any way absurd to consider the chance that these are merely selfish people looking for handouts and attention. It happens every day...and there are people that are unfortunate victims of such focused debates that jeopordize their reputation, careers, and lives in general simply because someone lies or tells blown-up versions of truth for attention & financial benefit.
#8 Jul 07 2006 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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AP was quoting Bennett directly when they wrote:
"If you look at the polling, nobody likes fat women," he said last year. "Is it right? No. Is it sensible? No. Is it true? Yeah ... Black guys are the only group that don't mind that. Is that racist to say that?"
I suppose someone could make anything up to make a quick buck, but in this case it seems consistent with the views the good Dr. holds. In any case, the judgement was delivered with the assumption that he did say it, and wasn't under any legal obligation to temper himself.
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Would you want a brilliant doctor with lousy bed-side manner or a idiot doctor with compassion?
Assuming that the "idiot" doctor still qualifies as a board certified physician and isn't a drooling imbecile with a scapel, it might actually depend on what my illness was. I'd want the best man for sugery or treating cancer but I might be content with the sub-par compassionate man for a general physical.
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#10 Jul 07 2006 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Now, I don't think he should have lost his license or had to pay large sums, but I do think some sort of sanction by the AMA or community service would have been in order here. It's one thing to speak bluntly, and another entirely to be an outright asshole. Whatever happened to bedside manner, and caring about your patients? Christ, if you hate people, why become a doctor?

Great pay, and you get to tell people they're fat and/or dying. It's every misanthrope's dream!
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#11 Jul 10 2006 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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I'd want the best man for sugery or treating cancer but I might be content with the sub-par compassionate man for a general physical.
You mean like a guy who warms up his hand first before a prostate exam? I hear ya, some doctors are just so inconsiderate.

I'm on board with Joph on this one. When it's a matter of life or death, someone's personality is wholly irrelevant. When I'm going in to see a family practice doctor I feel the need for a little more of a connection. I'm not sure what it's like in more urban settings, but around here pretty much everyone knows all the doctors in town and knows who's an *** and who is a nice guy. Personality is the biggest reason I left my old PCP, she was just such a ***** I didn't want to see her anymore.
#12 Jul 10 2006 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
He's an old, racist doctor who's under the philosophy of telling it how he sees it.

He belongs here, if not for the blunt comedy he would bring to a thread.
#13 Jul 10 2006 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dr. Feelgood wrote:
nobody likes fat women," he said last year. "Is it right? No. Is it sensible? No. Is it true? Yeah ... Black guys are the only group that don't mind that.


That is just not true, drunk guys like fat women too.

Edited, Jul 10th 2006 at 9:44am EDT by fhrugby
#14 Jul 10 2006 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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In my personal opinion, with the amount of "fraud" in cases like this these days...it's not in any way absurd to consider the chance that these are merely selfish people looking for handouts and attention. It happens every day...


Do you have any actual facts to back up your suppositions? Is fraud more common now than at any point in the past, and if so, how far back?

Does it really happen every day? Can you prove that, or are you just accepting what someone said on the bus as gospel?

Regarding the OP - he should have been a surgeon. Everyone expects surgeons to be jerkwads. Primary care physicians need to treat the whole person, and you can't do that if you make a habit of alienating them. People tend to be thin-skinned and to dislike those in authority offering bluntly worded criticism.

Wonder if she did lose weight, though. It's been two years; did he motivate her, or send her running for the brownies. (Er... in context that sounds kinda double entendre-ish, therefore it stays!)
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#15 Jul 10 2006 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:

Now, I don't think he should have lost his license or had to pay large sums, but I do think some sort of sanction by the AMA or community service would have been in order here. It's one thing to speak bluntly, and another entirely to be an outright asshole. Whatever happened to bedside manner, and caring about your patients? Christ, if you hate people, why become a doctor?


He doesn't hate people. Maybe he's just tired of fat moo-cows cramming sh'it down their throats, and then ******** about their weight as they suck down tax dollars.

I think he should be given a medal. 2 if it actually works.
#16 Jul 10 2006 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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Do you have any actual facts to back up your suppositions? Is fraud more common now than at any point in the past, and if so, how far back?

Does it really happen every day? Can you prove that, or are you just accepting what someone said on the bus as gospel?


Let me "rephrase"...the statement wasn't meant to contrast fraud in the present versus the past. It's to say it happens. And while I do not see any primary survey's concerning the frequency of fraud, if you take into account the frequency and growing concern of Identity Theft fraud and things like the recent swell of Hurricane Katrina Disaster Fraud, I think it's safe to say that there is more than enough selfish bastards out there willing to attempt some kind of fraud for financial benefit, if not the benefit of attention.
#17 Jul 10 2006 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Regarding the OP - he should have been a surgeon. Everyone expects surgeons to be jerkwads.
And boy, do they deliver!
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People tend to be thin-skinned and to dislike those in authority offering bluntly worded criticism.
I don't know if it's as much that as people expect that when you're paying to recieve a service, you'll be treated with a modicum of honesty, yes, but also respect and dignity.

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He doesn't hate people. Maybe he's just tired of fat moo-cows cramming sh'it down their throats, and then ******** about their weight as they suck down tax dollars.

I think he should be given a medal. 2 if it actually works.
If telling a patient in medical terms that the effects of obesity will kill them doesn't work, then not much would, including cheap insults. I suppose I could tell every smoker I know "Good job making coal out of those lungs, sucker!", but I doubt it could honestly be seen as an attempt to do anything but be an annoying ****.
#18 Jul 10 2006 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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If telling a patient in medical terms that the effects of obesity will kill them doesn't work, then not much would, including cheap insults. I suppose I could tell every smoker I know "Good job making coal out of those lungs, sucker!", but I doubt it could honestly be seen as an attempt to do anything but be an annoying ****.
What you describe here is simply tact. Some people simply do not have it. I would know.



Edited, Jul 10th 2006 at 4:56pm EDT by Elderon
#19 Jul 10 2006 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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fhrugby the Sly wrote:
Dr. Feelgood wrote:
nobody likes fat women," he said last year. "Is it right? No. Is it sensible? No. Is it true? Yeah ... Black guys are the only group that don't mind that.


That is just not true, drunk guys like fat women too.

Edited, Jul 10th 2006 at 9:44am EDT by fhrugby


They're only "fat" in the morning Smiley: lol
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