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#77 Jul 03 2006 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel stated

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No individual animal changes into another species.


which is untrue. Organisms can undergo Instantaneous Speciation where the organism increases the number of alleles it has by a certain multiple.

Alleles can also fuse together and break apart causing a 4n animal to suddenly become 3n, or 5n. This results in a new species being created, and can occur in an individual animal. For example Spinels(Fish) have huge differences in allele number between species because of instantaneous speciation.


[link=null]http://www.actionbioscience.org/biodiversity/wilson.html[/link]
This link gives a basic View of Instantaneous speciation. Just do CTR + F and look for Instantaneous Speciation.

Just wanted to clear that up. :)
#78 Jul 03 2006 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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What's also interesting is all the things that have not evolved. Some "livng fossils" are still among us. Horseshoe crabs, celocanths, nautilus. Hell, a lot of insects have hardly changed for ages. Crocodilians have changed little if any from the Jurassic Period, if I'm not mistaken.

The simple argument is that certain animals don't need to change. They do so well in their niche that random mutations do not improve them.

Evolutionary changes don't happen all in one way, either. White-furred animals not living in snowy regions - this is usually not good. They are rare, and the coloration puts them at a big disadvantage. But if the climate changes and snow becomes more dominant, they start to thrive. The moths that "changed color" because industrialization poluted trees and changed the color of the trees - this was a shift of dominance in moths that are either mostly black or mstly gray (if I remember the colors right).

Humans are vastly different now from other species because we can evolve by slight alterations in our brains (learning new skills is done by slight changes in neural pathways in the brain, for the most part) because of advanced communication skills. We can evolve by changing our "software" significantly (done easily and quickly) - we don't have to evolve our "hardware" any more. And as was noted earlier, we change our environment rather than changing ourselves - but you must add to this the idea that we, in a sense, "evolve selectively" and at a whim. We fly not by growing wings over generations - but rather by stepping inside an aircraft.

Anyway, there is a lot we still don't know about this. Einstein overturned centuries of happy acceptance of Newtoniaism by, in a nutshell, deducing there was a world "bigger" than our senses out there which required new thinking and a new physics to explain. On his heels and based on his work, to his chagrin, came the Quantum Physicians, who deduced a a world smaller than our senses had been able to detect - which also required a new physics and mindset to grasp. Expect Evolution itself to "evolve." We've only just started on this.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2006 at 6:56pm EDT by EvilGnomes
#79 Jul 03 2006 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
All we have right now is regional variance. When you have two groups of humans who cannot successfully breed children without them becoming mules who can't reproduce then you have 'races'.



Wrong, thats 50% of the definition of race, the other is never mating due to never meating. A polar bear and a grizzly can mate and have a baby that can still reproduce, but they are still seperate species because they would never meet in the wild.
#80 Jul 03 2006 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Lord Darkuwa wrote:
Queen bodhisattva wrote:
All we have right now is regional variance. When you have two groups of humans who cannot successfully breed children without them becoming mules who can't reproduce then you have 'races'.



Wrong, thats 50% of the definition of race, the other is never mating due to never meating. A polar bear and a grizzly can mate and have a baby that can still reproduce, but they are still seperate species because they would never meet in the wild.


Of course I had already covered that there isnt enough clear cut distinction to actually start throwing the term 'race' around.
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#81 Jul 03 2006 at 7:16 PM Rating: Good
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There are no "human races" and that we are all equal.. we all bleed the same colour.. and if you removed our skin that we would all look the same.... so we should live together in harmony.


What do you mean there are no human races? Of course there are. "racism" is just assuming one is superior to another.

I think someone else made the point about mating; that's species, not races.

That being said, there are other humanoid species. Or haven't you been to Arkansas?

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#82 Jul 03 2006 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Darkknight wrote:
Or haven't you been to Arkansas?


Oh shit...LMAO
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