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So, for those of us who don't share your views - do we have a right to make our own decisions about a medical procedure?

Are you one of those cowards who piously intones "except in case of rape or incest, or to save the mother's life" when raging against abortion? Just curious; I always wonder how those fools can face themselves in the mirror.

FYI: I dont believe in abortion for any reason, not rape, incest or to save the mothers life. Dont get me wrong, I think we should do anything and everything to save all life, but if it comes down to the mother or the child, I for one dont wanna play God. What mother would wanna live if it meant the death or her child, for that matter what parent. Abortion is a tough issue with people on both sides of the fence, both sides are equally passionate about their position. As I said earlier, the biggest controversy with abortion stems from KNOWING when life begins. IF it were to be proven (for example) that life begins at 3 months, than I believe a HUGH percentage of people would support abortion up till that time. However, it is pure speculation as to when life starts. Since only God knows when life begins and one of his commandments is: Thou shall not kill. I will side with life. I fully expect to be judged one day and I dont wanna have to try and explain, Oh I didnt think you meant that, or I didnt think that applied.

So, in closing samira if you really are curious what those fools look like in the mirror, go look in your mirror:P I think all those that are against abortion and who call an abortion murder, would call you FOOLISH by stating that murder is a medical procedure. Now, you have not heard me call the other side foolish because in issues where there is no definite answer(when life begins) I must allow for the possibility that I am wrong. If you do the same than your foolish goes away:P

Is a cluster of cells "life". Or do you mean a living organism? Life is an evolutionary process. An embryo will turn into an individual, but before it has a brain, a heart, a spine, is it an individual? Or is just a cluster of cells? In this case, having a **** kills potential babies, do I take it you don't ********** either? Think of all those little spermatozoids jumping into the air thinking "Oh noes!"

And then they die. Murderer!



Just out of curiosity, do you support the death penalty?

There are some who claim life begins with conception. To be perfectly honest with you, I honestly dont know when life begins. Some say life begins when the heart and brain are formed, other claim its not life till the child draws breath. Yet kill a pregnant woman and you are charged with 2 counts of murder. Shrug, I just dont know. Since, I dont know, I era on the side of life. I will allow for the possibility that I am wrong, but without more difinitive information on when life begins, this has to be my position.

Rape, incest are horrible, horrible things, but so is being born with cancer or aids, retardation, downs etc. The difference being, there is nothing we can do about that. In the abortion issue, it is something we can do something about. Just because can doesnt mean we should. To me, that an example of playing God. For me, a christain, I believe God has a plan and things happen for a reason. Abeit, even if its something I dont understand.

It's cute when Virus pretends he's religeous.




Bite your tongue; not everyone who beleives in God is that absent minded. I fully agree that imposing religious 'values' on non-beleivers (or, people of other beleifs in general) is stupid.

The fact that abortion is -still- an issue is just sad.


Seriously now..."everything happens for a reason?" Well, of course. Everything in life is a cause and effect of something else. That's like trying to make me understand that "humans breathe oxygen." Plain as day. Playing the "I just don't understand" card with no interest in understanding just makes you ignorant; not Christian.

Sir exodus claims not all christains are narrow-minded:

Non-believers make up 3% of this country population. Like it or not this is a christain country. While we need to protect the rights of the minority, there is nothing wrong with making laws that are supported by the moral majority.

Sir edodus, have you read the bible? Did you find a different God than the rest of us? Or did you simply create a new one? Not looking for a religious debate here. Only commenting because it never ceases to amaze me that volume of people who can not post an INTELLIGENT REPLY, resort to name calling. Please post valid points without resorting to name calling.

I have found that the same people who resort to name calling behind the safety of their computer are the same one who would **** themselves in RL when someone shouts BOO.

At the very LEAST, if you are calling my point of view narrow-minded, than post the scriptures that validate your position, if you cant find any, I guess im in for another naming calling rant. -(

The Bible's a cookbook, too? Damn that book's all-encompassing!
What does it say about fiber, Joph?

When You Were Young And Your Heart Was An Open Book
You Used To Say "Live And Let Live"
(You Know You Did, You Know You Did, You Know You Did)
But If This Ever Changing World In Which We Live In
Makes You Give In And Cry
Say "Live And Let Die"
"Live And Let Die"
"Live And Let Die"
"Live And Let Die"

What Does It Matter To Ya
When You Got A Job To Do
You Gotta Do It Well
You Gotta Give The Other Fellow Hell


You Used To Say "Live And Let Live"
(You Know You Did, You Know You Did, You Know You Did)
But If This Ever Changing World In Which We Live In
Makes You Give In And Cry
Say "Live And Let Die"
"Live And Let Die"
...

are you saying Paul McCartney was Emo?

another offshoot of this would be if those who want to ban abortion becuase "god has plan for everyone," support resuscitating someone whose heart has stopped. I mean, you could very well say they are dead, right? So obviously god's plan was for them to die at that moment. So the doctor is messing with god's plans just as much then, as when he preforms an abortion.


Now, someone could come back and say, that they don't consider a person dead until all their body cannot be resuscitated. Fine. There are some who believe that life doesn't begin until the baby draws breath, or until it's brain starts to function, or until it is recognizable as a baby, or as soon as it is concieved. A similar arguement could be made for death.

Personally, I believe that life begins when the brain starts to function. I believe that that is around 10 weeks. I did a report on abortion last year, but can't remember with 100% certainty. MY stance is that before the brain begins functioning, there is no way the baby could be sentient, and thus, could not be considered human. Then again, I'm not religious. But I also believe that no matter what majority Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, whatever, make up in this country, religious beliefs should not come into play when making laws. Medical arguements for when life starts, fine. Religous arguements for when life starts, no.

My stance on abortion is, if it is before the baby's brain begins functioning, it's the mother's choice. After that mark, it comes down to if the pregnancy is endangering th mother. If the mother's life is threatened, then I also support abortion after the 10 week mark.