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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. soldiers may have raped an Iraqi woman and murdered her and three members of her family including a child, U.S. military officials said on Friday.
Confirming the launch of another major investigation into the alleged killing and abuse of Iraqi civilians by U.S. troops, one officer said the incident in March just south of Baghdad had initially been blamed on insurgents active in the area.
The probe is the latest in a series in recent weeks since the revelation of investigations into the killings of 24 people at Haditha in November. Commanders are cracking down on rogue soldiers in a bid to regain the trust of ordinary Iraqis and of their new government after three years of growing resentment.
"What's that you say General? Crack down on rapes? Aww come on, do you have any idea how much paperwork that will take? ******* press, I swear to god...."
They're all heros though.
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I was listening to the story of a woman the other day who is enlisted, and didn't want to return to Iraq because she was so sure she'd be raped. I suppose that after a while the situation must make you feel like an animal, but there definitely has to be a point where you decide to just throw your morals to the wind.
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but there definitely has to be a point where you decide to just throw your morals to the wind.
Well, no, really there isn't. They're just criminals.
Well, wait, wait, wait.
Aside from the gunshot wounds, were there any marks?
Aside from the gunshot wounds, were there any marks?
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Washington hopes to leave a pro-American Iraq once its troops leave and seems keen to repair damage to its image.
T.W.O.T. sucks.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
"I was listening to the story of a woman the other day who is enlisted, and didn't want to return to Iraq because she was so sure she'd be raped." --FleaJo1
At the risk of being perceived as out of touch and anachronistic or simply a curmudgeonly mysogynist, I'd like to say this woman's reason is precisely why women in the combat arms branches is a bad, bad idea. The WACs or WAVEs was a much better way to integrate females into the military.
Feel free to pile on.
Totem
At the risk of being perceived as out of touch and anachronistic or simply a curmudgeonly mysogynist, I'd like to say this woman's reason is precisely why women in the combat arms branches is a bad, bad idea. The WACs or WAVEs was a much better way to integrate females into the military.
Feel free to pile on.
Totem
When these men are found guilty, we should turn them over to the Iraqi rioter's to do with as they please.
Totem wrote:
"I was listening to the story of a woman the other day who is enlisted, and didn't want to return to Iraq because she was so sure she'd be raped." --FleaJo1
At the risk of being perceived as out of touch and anachronistic or simply a curmudgeonly mysogynist, I'd like to say this woman's reason is precisely why women in the combat arms branches is a bad, bad idea. The WACs or WAVEs was a much better way to integrate females into the military.
Feel free to pile on.
Totem
At the risk of being perceived as out of touch and anachronistic or simply a curmudgeonly mysogynist, I'd like to say this woman's reason is precisely why women in the combat arms branches is a bad, bad idea. The WACs or WAVEs was a much better way to integrate females into the military.
Feel free to pile on.
Totem
Go troll elsewhere, you goddamned out of touch anachronistic mysongynist.
I didn't know it was possible to have so many words I don't know the meaning of in a single sentence before your post.
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When these men are found guilty, we should turn them over to the Iraqi rioter's to do with as they please.
Because that's really how you demonstrate due process of law to them.
Quiet, you dumb ****. If we have soldiers (and I'd be quite startled to learn that we don't, considering the constituency of our armed forces) who have behaved in this manner, then it's our responsibility to hand out justice in the matter. We can't unkill or unrape victims, but we can deal with the criminals ourselves instead of washing our hands of the matter and handing them over for acts of revenge.
Honestly, what would you achieve by handing them over to rioters other than to reward the rioter behavior and endorse that mindset? Rapists, murderers and the like; they know their actions carry heavy penalties. They don't commit those heinous acts for lack of fear of the penalty. They commit the acts for lack of ability to really connect the act to the penalty in their own minds. Only in a society where the act itself is what is feared instead of the penalty will crimes like this vanish. Education, understanding and compassion are the tools that will get us there. Until that time, we will make do with process of law, not mob rule. Civilization does have some benefits, you know...
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this woman's reason is precisely why women in the combat arms branches is a bad, bad idea.
Samira said
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Well, wait, wait, wait.
Aside from the gunshot wounds, were there any marks?
Aside from the gunshot wounds, were there any marks?
I lol'edTotem wrote:
The WACs or WAVEs
In English, please?
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Yanari wrote:
Because it's unrealistic to expect our soldiers to not be rapists?
They're under a LOT of stress Yan. If you were over there, you'd rape people too, stop being so judgemental. If women enlist, it should be under the assumption that they'll be raped. They're putting themselves in that position.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Nexa wrote:
Yanari wrote:
Because it's unrealistic to expect our soldiers to not be rapists?
They're under a LOT of stress Yan. If you were over there, you'd rape people too, stop being so judgemental. If women enlist, it should be under the assumption that they'll be raped. They're putting themselves in that position.
Nexa
Yeah!!
Just like all those godamn Iraqis that keep getting in the way of our bullets. Those are not free, you know!! We pay for them with our taxes! And those selfish bastards just take them in the chest and then sell it at the black market.
And that's when they're not busy doing their ghey PR stunts in Abu Graib.
Nexa wrote:
Yanari wrote:
Because it's unrealistic to expect our soldiers to not be rapists?
They're under a LOT of stress Yan. If you were over there, you'd rape people too, stop being so judgemental. If women enlist, it should be under the assumption that they'll be raped. They're putting themselves in that position.
Tot3m, you dumbass.
So, one of the soldiers involved has "a personality disorder."
Sure, he's a rapist and a murderer (allegedly). I'd say that qualifies. Oh, and grats him on an honorable discharge due to his "disorder" - should that not have been a medical discharge?
Sure, he's a rapist and a murderer (allegedly). I'd say that qualifies. Oh, and grats him on an honorable discharge due to his "disorder" - should that not have been a medical discharge?
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