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#1 Jun 28 2006 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Do we like being sad? waht are we a bunch of ******* EMOs?

I can understand people creating sad songs.. but the fact that people sit around and willingly extract negative emotions from their heads is a bit disturbing wehn I think about it.
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#2 Jun 28 2006 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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Because life generally is pretty shitty.

#3 Jun 28 2006 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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sometimes its good to have a catharsis when you're not feeling up to snuff. Sad songs or movies help to bring about a faster catharsis than if done on your own. A lot of times it makes you feel better afterwards
#4 Jun 28 2006 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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#5 Jun 28 2006 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
Because sad songs are like outside confirmation that the world is a pretty sad place, and that its not just in your head.

A bit like when people whine and complain, and you join in to make you feel better. You're not alone in thinking like this.

And then sometimes, its great to listen to sad songs to remind yourself of how sad it can be, thereby enjoying the good moments more.

And sadness it beautiful, somewhere. It's true, it hurts, it's real.


"I miss the comfort of being sad" as some junkie once said...
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#6 Jun 28 2006 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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And then sometimes, its great to listen to sad songs to remind yourself of how sad it can be, thereby enjoying the good moments more.


In order to enjoy contentment or happiness, one needs to know the opposite. You can not always be in a state of contentment or happiness and actually understand what it means unless you have something to compare it to
#7 Jun 28 2006 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, but there are better ways to feel better... like not listening to depressing music.
I eamn, wehn I'm listening to a sad song.. it's not to feel better... almost the opposite... and it really doesn't make me feel better.. instead I suppose I get bored with it and move on... maybe that's my catharsis.

I don't know how many people sit there depressed and think: wow.. this is a beautiful experience
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You can not always be in a state of contentment or happiness and actually understand what it means unless you have something to compare it to


Would you supose that this is an unconscious or inherrant behaviour? I'm sure people that submit themselves to depressing things aren't activly doing it for this purpose.


Edited, Jun 28th 2006 at 11:02am EDT by Kelvyquayo
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#8 Jun 28 2006 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I blame it on alcohol ...
#9 Jun 28 2006 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
Catharsis? My **** is, capable of more flush. Adolescence, in essence is all about lust.




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Edited, Jun 28th 2006 at 11:08am EDT by Elderon
#10 Jun 28 2006 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, like DSD & Co. said, a healthy emotional state involves acknowledging sadness as well as joy. Being a black-garbed sad clown in your basement isn't healthy but neither is being a blindly pure-hearted Pollyanna.

I think that, just due to how we experience and deal with emotion, sad songs, movies, etc are 'deeper' than happy ones. When we're depressed about something, there's a common urge to disassemble our thoughts and figure out exactly why we're affected as we are. Probably as a defense against feeling that way again, I suppose. When we're happy, we don't really worry so much about why we're having a good time so upbeat music, cinema, etc is thought of as more shallow. Of course, calling one "deep" and the other "shallow" puts an unfair value judgement on them, as if sad songs have more worth or social worth than upbeat ones. It does mean though that sad songs probably tend to draw the listener in more and create more of a bond with the song.

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#11 Jun 28 2006 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
Because we're all a little emo inside? [:cut:]
#12 Jun 28 2006 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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because everyone wants to relate to someone else, we're social beings.

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#13 Jun 28 2006 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:


DSD wrote:
You can not always be in a state of contentment or happiness and actually understand what it means unless you have something to compare it to


Would you supose that this is an unconscious or inherrant behaviour? I'm sure people that submit themselves to depressing things aren't activly doing it for this purpose.




I dont think its a behavior at all for the general mainstream. My statement just means, if you were constantly living in contentment, how would you know? YOu would have nothing to compare it to If you always lived in light, how would you know you did, unless you knew and experienced what dark was? How do you know to enjoy happiness if you dont know what sadness is?

I think people are different and so some may get something more than the average Joe if they surround themselves with sadness. But I would guess in most cases, there is something offbalance in theirselves that makes them more comfortable (?) surrounded by sadness. Lots of different reasons for that to happen. Chemical imbalance, growing up in an unsafe enviorment, etc.
#14 Jun 28 2006 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
I think it's subconscious.

When you're not particularly sad yourself, and you listen to a sad song, it's a bit like when you look down from a very tall building, or when you watch images of dying kids on TV. Observing the sadness, and thereby constrasting it (subconsciously) with your own state of non-sadness, makes you feel lucky, and blessed, and in the end, good.

I don't do it very often, but some sad songs do make me feel lucky.

And some sad songs are just beautiful, and there is a tremendous beauty in sadness. But it has to be done well.
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#15 Jun 28 2006 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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It does mean though that sad songs probably tend to draw the listener in more and create more of a bond with the song.


so it's all a marketing ploy!
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#16 Jun 28 2006 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
I have always thought people just passively absorbed whatever was forced upon them by the radio.
#17 Jun 28 2006 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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I have always thought people just passively absorbed whatever was forced upon them by the radio.


not me. I change the station if the type of music playing is not corresponding to my mood, or just go for talk radio
#18 Jun 28 2006 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Professor CrescentFresh wrote:
I have always thought people just passively absorbed whatever was forced upon them by the radio.


It's true. I once turned into a man from mars and started eating cars...and bars...

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#19 Jun 28 2006 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
I guess I was half joking, but I do think there is some truth in what I said. Of course, no one is forced to listen to something they don't like.

In the cases where I actively choose to listen to a sad song it is usually because I like to hear a good story telling. Even if the story is sad, I like being along for the ride.
#20 Jun 28 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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Sad music tends to be bittersweet at times, like there is a beauty in the fact that we are all, at our heart, vulnerable and fragile. Society is all about people not wanting to feel alone, so in some sense, it's natural.

I do think it's unhealthy for teens to willingly go through an angsty phase as a search for depth of some sort. Life brings sadness no matter what, but happiness is something you work for. At its heart, depression just makes you lazy.

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Professor CrescentFresh wrote:
In the cases where I actively choose to listen to a sad song it is usually because I like to hear a good story telling
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy...
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#22 Jun 28 2006 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
Some sad songs are bloody hilarious!

Have you ever heard of "Last Kiss"? Comedy gold!

Oh where, oh where, can my baby be?
The Lord took her away from me.
She's gone to heaven so I've got to be good,
So I can see my baby when I leave this world.

We were out on a date in my daddy's car,
We hadn't driven very far.
There in the road straight ahead,
A car was stalled, the engine was dead.
I couldn't stop, so I swerved to the right,
I'll never forget the sound that night.
The screaming tires, the busting glass,
The painful scream that I heard last.

[Chorus]

When I woke up, the rain was falling down,
There were people standing all around.
Something warm flowing through my eyes,
But somehow I found my baby that night.
I lifted her head, she looked at me and said;
"Hold me darling just a little while."
I held her close I kissed her - our last kiss,
I found the love that I knew I had missed.
Well now she's gone even though I hold her tight,
I lost my love, my life that night.

[Chorus]
#23 Jun 28 2006 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uh oh. Did I break the magic seal and turn this into yet another "copy & paste song lyrics" thread?

Oh, and rate-up to Kelv just because I was going to make this same thread once but never formulated my thoughts into a coherant OP.
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#24 Jun 28 2006 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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I was going to make this same thread once but never formulated my thoughts into a coherant OP.
Maybe if you didn't set such high standards for yourself you'd finally get to 30k one of these days.
#25 Jun 28 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
Uh oh. Did I break the magic seal and turn this into yet another "copy & paste song lyrics" thread?
Smiley: glare

There was a point to my post with the lyrics.
#26 Jun 28 2006 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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THE THINGS U LAUGH AND U KNOW U SHOULDNT
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