So, an Interpreter invited me to her daughter's Quinceañera on Saturday, and I'm not sure if she wants me to attend, or if I'm expected to just send a card with a check. If so, how much is appropriate? I would almost go (it'a Puerto Rican party, bound to be fun), but she was just telling me the other day about her son getting carjacked by a cop outside the church where it was held. Apparently he drives a souped-up Monte Carlo, and the cop didn't relent until he showed his stepdad's business card (this Interpreter is dating a Polish cop). Then he let him go.
Maybe I should send a check, but I never even met this girl. Gah for bullsh[Black][/Black]it social obligations.
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Card and a gift cerftificate, no cash.
I was always told it was rude not to show up to a Quinceañera that you were invited to. I remember I highly offended a friends family because I didnt go to a younger siblings Quinceañera. I didnt realize it was that big of a deal.
So a colleague expects you to give money to her daughter? Isn't that what her family is for?
Go to the party by all means. Bring a nice bottle of tequila, or wine, or olive oil. But thats as far as your social/professional obligations go. You cant expect co-workers to donate for your children's celebrations.
Don't get bullied into sending a check.
Go to the party by all means. Bring a nice bottle of tequila, or wine, or olive oil. But thats as far as your social/professional obligations go. You cant expect co-workers to donate for your children's celebrations.
Don't get bullied into sending a check.
It is a big deal, kind of like a sweet sixteen and debutante ball all rolled into one. The more people that show up, the more prestigious the party. They showed one on the MTV show sweet sixteen, which I was forced to sit through and watch, damn wife and handcuffs.
Edited, Jun 26th 2006 at 10:39am EDT by fhrugby
Edited, Jun 26th 2006 at 10:39am EDT by fhrugby
Well, if she actually invited you then it would be wrong not to go. Is it going to be held in a hall of some sort? If she's reserving you a seat, then you really can't turn a deaf ear to it.
Gift Card > Check
I think American Express has a "use it anywhere" gift card now. You should look into it so that you don't toss the girl in a store she might not like.
Gift Card > Check
I think American Express has a "use it anywhere" gift card now. You should look into it so that you don't toss the girl in a store she might not like.
Your mere presence wil be infinitely more rewarding for her than any material or financial gift could ever be.
And if she doesnt agree, then fock this stupid materialist leeching *****. In a nice way, ofc.
And if she doesnt agree, then fock this stupid materialist leeching *****. In a nice way, ofc.
I've never been to one of these nor heard of one. It sounds like a coming of age deal though? If its like others are saying and its bad to not go, then go out, buy yourself a pretty dress, and go. No more than $50 check to the debutante though, since you don know her personally
Sounds like a spick bat mitzvah to me. Just treat it as such.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
Sounds like a spick bat mitzvah to me. Just treat it as such.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Quinceañera From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Quinceañera (disambiguation).
The Quinceañera, or Quince Años (meaning fifteen years) is, in some Spanish-speaking regions of the Americas, a young woman's celebration of her fifteenth birthday, which is celebrated in a unique and different way from her other birthdays. The word is also used to refer to the young woman whose 15th birthday is being celebrated (analogous to the word "cumpleañera" for "birthday girl"). The closest equivalents to the Quinceañera in the English-speaking world are the sweet sixteen or, in more affluent communities, a debutante ball at the age of eighteen. In some cases, the birthday girl has a choice of a quinceañera, a trip, or a car.
Celebration
The celebration marks the transition from the childhood to womanhood of a Quinceañera. It serves as a way to acknowledge that a young woman has reached maturity.
In the Mexican tradition, if the quinceañera is Catholic, the festivities begin with a Thanksgiving Mass (Misa de Acción de Gracias), at which the quinceañera arrives in formal (usually pink) dress, often resembling a wedding dress, accompanied by her parents (padres), godparents (padrinos), seven maids of honor (damas) and seven chamberlains (chambelanes). After the Mass, the younger sisters, female cousins and friends of the quinceañera pass out party favors and the quinceañera leaves her bouquet in an altar to the Virgin Mary. The Mass is followed by a party either at the quinceañera's home or in a banquet hall leased for the occasion. At the party, the quinceañera dances a special dance with her father and male relatives. Then her boyfriend, or male friend, dances the remaining part of the dance with the birthday girl. The celebration however is varied along other countries. In Dominican Republic, for example, the Quinceañera only involves the ball party.
In Cuba, it may include a choreographed group dance, in which 16 couples waltz around the Quinceañera, who is led by one of the top dancers of her choice or her boyfriend. Sometimes the choreography includes four or six other skilled dancers called Escortes (escorts). They are allowed to dance around the Quinceañera and are usually dancers adept at improvisation whose movements are intended to highlight the central couple for the spectators. They are also allowed to dress in different colored tuxedos.
Fifteenth birthday celebrations were very popular in Cuba until the late 1970s. The custom entered the country partly via Spain, but its major influence was French. Wealthy families, who could afford to rent luxurious halls at country clubs or 4/5-star hotels and to hire choreographers, were the actual pioneers of Quinceañeras. Although lower-income families could not afford the same display of wealth, they too started to celebrate Quinceañeras, which they called Quinces. Those celebrations usually took place at the home of the Quinceañera or at the more spacious house of a relative.
While this traditional celebration is still practiced nowadays in Latin America and Hispanic communities in North America, it is sometimes observed by other events that focus more on the quinceañera's wishes (e.g. world travelling). In some cities, the more proper Baile de las Debutantes (Debutants' Ball) still survives.
I would expect most puerto ricans follow more closely the cuban style with the choreographed dancing couples.
Edited, Jun 26th 2006 at 10:59am EDT by fhrugby
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For other uses, see Quinceañera (disambiguation).
The Quinceañera, or Quince Años (meaning fifteen years) is, in some Spanish-speaking regions of the Americas, a young woman's celebration of her fifteenth birthday, which is celebrated in a unique and different way from her other birthdays. The word is also used to refer to the young woman whose 15th birthday is being celebrated (analogous to the word "cumpleañera" for "birthday girl"). The closest equivalents to the Quinceañera in the English-speaking world are the sweet sixteen or, in more affluent communities, a debutante ball at the age of eighteen. In some cases, the birthday girl has a choice of a quinceañera, a trip, or a car.
Celebration
The celebration marks the transition from the childhood to womanhood of a Quinceañera. It serves as a way to acknowledge that a young woman has reached maturity.
In the Mexican tradition, if the quinceañera is Catholic, the festivities begin with a Thanksgiving Mass (Misa de Acción de Gracias), at which the quinceañera arrives in formal (usually pink) dress, often resembling a wedding dress, accompanied by her parents (padres), godparents (padrinos), seven maids of honor (damas) and seven chamberlains (chambelanes). After the Mass, the younger sisters, female cousins and friends of the quinceañera pass out party favors and the quinceañera leaves her bouquet in an altar to the Virgin Mary. The Mass is followed by a party either at the quinceañera's home or in a banquet hall leased for the occasion. At the party, the quinceañera dances a special dance with her father and male relatives. Then her boyfriend, or male friend, dances the remaining part of the dance with the birthday girl. The celebration however is varied along other countries. In Dominican Republic, for example, the Quinceañera only involves the ball party.
In Cuba, it may include a choreographed group dance, in which 16 couples waltz around the Quinceañera, who is led by one of the top dancers of her choice or her boyfriend. Sometimes the choreography includes four or six other skilled dancers called Escortes (escorts). They are allowed to dance around the Quinceañera and are usually dancers adept at improvisation whose movements are intended to highlight the central couple for the spectators. They are also allowed to dress in different colored tuxedos.
Fifteenth birthday celebrations were very popular in Cuba until the late 1970s. The custom entered the country partly via Spain, but its major influence was French. Wealthy families, who could afford to rent luxurious halls at country clubs or 4/5-star hotels and to hire choreographers, were the actual pioneers of Quinceañeras. Although lower-income families could not afford the same display of wealth, they too started to celebrate Quinceañeras, which they called Quinces. Those celebrations usually took place at the home of the Quinceañera or at the more spacious house of a relative.
While this traditional celebration is still practiced nowadays in Latin America and Hispanic communities in North America, it is sometimes observed by other events that focus more on the quinceañera's wishes (e.g. world travelling). In some cities, the more proper Baile de las Debutantes (Debutants' Ball) still survives.
I would expect most puerto ricans follow more closely the cuban style with the choreographed dancing couples.
Edited, Jun 26th 2006 at 10:59am EDT by fhrugby
For those who don't know, it's a traditional Quinceañera, which is roughly the equivalent of a sweet sixteen party, except for a few notable exceptions outside the obvious (the fact that it's on the 15th birthday, not the 16th):
1. It is considered the coming-out of the girl in question, and the party itself is usually preceded by a Catholic Mass on her behalf.
2. The girl in question gets dressed up almost bridelike, except the dress is almost always pink or baby blue. Hours are spent at the salon, special cake and meal. Most getups do include a veil, and she gets attendants, same as if she were in a wedding.
3. As part of the celebration, the whole party of attendants dances a waltz, and the girl herself usually does so with her father. It is typically "The Blue Danube", and dancing it signifies her entry into womanhood.
4. It is second only to a wedding as far as the amount of time, money and prestige riding on it.
SO, normally I would go, and give her some type of gift card or something, except that it's at night, and in da hood. I would rather not get jacked. I have a pretty good excuse not to go, but I also don't want to look like an *** by not sending something. There is a lot of etiquette involved, but at the same time, I don't want to bleed myself for some chippy I've never met.
1. It is considered the coming-out of the girl in question, and the party itself is usually preceded by a Catholic Mass on her behalf.
2. The girl in question gets dressed up almost bridelike, except the dress is almost always pink or baby blue. Hours are spent at the salon, special cake and meal. Most getups do include a veil, and she gets attendants, same as if she were in a wedding.
3. As part of the celebration, the whole party of attendants dances a waltz, and the girl herself usually does so with her father. It is typically "The Blue Danube", and dancing it signifies her entry into womanhood.
4. It is second only to a wedding as far as the amount of time, money and prestige riding on it.
SO, normally I would go, and give her some type of gift card or something, except that it's at night, and in da hood. I would rather not get jacked. I have a pretty good excuse not to go, but I also don't want to look like an *** by not sending something. There is a lot of etiquette involved, but at the same time, I don't want to bleed myself for some chippy I've never met.
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Sounds like a spick bat mitzvah to me. Just treat it as such.
Wash it down with a He'Brew and a Dos Equis and you're good to go!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Pulga atómica wrote:
It is considered the coming-out of the girl in question, and the party itself is usually followed by a lesbian orgy on her behalf.
Sounds fun!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Can I go?! I'll bring a gift check and rice cakes.
Find out who else from the office is invited, pool your money together, and then you can all flake.
Somehow a $50 gift card from 5 people is more highly regarded than a $10 gift card from one.
Somehow a $50 gift card from 5 people is more highly regarded than a $10 gift card from one.
Debalic wrote:
Pulga atómica wrote:
It is considered the coming-out of the girl in question, and the party itself is usually followed by a lesbian orgy on her behalf.
Sounds fun!
/singsong
Someone's going to he-ell!
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Pulga atómica wrote:
It is considered the coming-out of the girl in question, and the party itself is usually followed by a lesbian orgy on her behalf.
Sounds fun!
/singsong
Someone's going to he-ell!
I sure as hell hope so!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
this is like:
I could care less for company picnics and weddings..... I'd much rather play video games...... but if you don't go you're an as[Aquamarine][/Aquamarine]shole.
not that I don't care for the people.. I just feel that my presence isn't a nessesity... and I hate waasting oxygen.
I could care less for company picnics and weddings..... I'd much rather play video games...... but if you don't go you're an as[Aquamarine][/Aquamarine]shole.
not that I don't care for the people.. I just feel that my presence isn't a nessesity... and I hate waasting oxygen.
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
The girl in question gets dressed up almost bridelike, except the dress is almost always pink or baby blue. Hours are spent at the salon, special cake and meal. Most getups do include a veil, and she gets attendants, same as if she were in a wedding.
Been to quite a few and been in a couple of those (even though I'm not Mexican, but hey I was close friends with the gals). Dresses weren't pink or blue, they were white and they were actual wedding gowns, down to the veil, gloves, etc. The attendants wore the colored gowns (pink for both occasions for me).
The Catholic mass is a definite must. The second one I was in the girl, right before she had Communion, whispered to the priest that she had to tell him something before she had Communion. He asked her what and she whispered to him that she had sex before.
What made it even better was that the guy she did it with was her escort for the shindig and he was sitting right there next to her and he was beet red. It was a classic moment and the entire court just started laughing and everyone else behind us had not a clue why we were laughing so hard. Priest actually stopped the Mass, had the girl go into the sacristy first for Confession and the escort do Confession also before he administered the Eucharist. Her parents were beyond pissed to say the least. It made it very interesting for the Court dance.!!! That is just too much.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Been to quite a few and been in a couple of those (even though I'm not Mexican, but hey I was close friends with the gals). Dresses weren't pink or blue, they were white and they were actual wedding gowns, down to the veil, gloves, etc. The attendants wore the colored gowns (pink for both occasions for me).
Oops. But forgot to put my thoughts in the gift Flea. Gift card, no more than $25 is my opinion. If they invited you this late (and I remember these things are planned like a wedding, you don't get invited just one week before it happens), I get the impression they're upping the head count as much as possible.
But by all means go, they're fun. The food's good, lots of dancing, lots of alcohol.
But by all means go, they're fun. The food's good, lots of dancing, lots of alcohol.
No one seems to think it's too intimidating that this thing is in the South Side of Chicago. 
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
No one seems to think it's too intimidating that this thing is in the South Side of Chicago.
Which neighborhood? Are we talking like Avalon Park Southside or like Kenwood Southside?
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
No one seems to think it's too intimidating that this thing is in the South Side of Chicago.
Maybe if you didn't whine about it on the forum every day.
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