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#52 Jun 24 2006 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as soldiers running things, WWII and Korea come to mind. MacArthur, Patton, Eisenhower. All soldiers that lead.


Patton and McArthur were immediately marginalized after the war and died borken bitter men.

Eisenhower was never in combat in WW2.

Really though, being shot at doesn't give you any particular insight into geoplotics. No having been shot might make you more inclined to send poor people you don't know somewhere to get blown up, but probably not that much. In general, rich ***** protect their intrests by sneding poor people to kill other poor people. Combat, no combat, really dosen't matter too much.

Really though, you should even have an oppinion at all since you don't speak Swahili.

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#53 Jun 24 2006 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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My opinion on the matter is this: IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN COMBAT, DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH WAR. People die when you mix the two. You can be for, or against war. Not my problem. Just don't start banging the drum one way or the other for the sake of politics.


As soon as you say something this simpleminded everyone realizes you have no clue about how things work.

Of course politicians will play politics. Of course they'll use the military to do so. It goes right along with flag waving and longwinded speeches about freedom.

What do you reckon politics to be, anyway?
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#54 Jun 24 2006 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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The second paragraph was for the OP. I hadn't yet had enough coffee to clarify that.

We are not big fans of cut and pasted, pathos filled, completely fictional e-mails that gullible dumbsh[Darkgoldenrod][/Darkgoldenrod]its forward around to everyone they know.

The comment about the soldiers running things stands. If you're referring to great leaders who had been soldiers at one point, that's well and good. The comment that not enough soldiers were running things does not read as such.

So again, and this time I'll include you: GFY, cnut.

Edited, Jun 24th 2006 at 11:43pm EDT by Yanari
#55 Jun 24 2006 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I shortend this to keep it from being a wall of text. I still think it gets the point across.

I understand politics. I know that people play the game that way. Doesn't make it right. Weather any of us like it or not, we're at war. It's time to get over the petty squabbling and constant posturing that's being done. People need to buck up and face it that their opinions of weather we're doing the "right" thing or not, and realize that we're committed, and we need to finish the mission, if for no other reason than to make sure that those that died already, didn't die a wasted death because of a wasted effort from those that support them. We need to get behind those that are over there and show them the same commitment and loyalty that they show to us, nevermind politics. Call me an idealist, but I don't give a sh[/red]it what you think about me anyway.

Oh, and I never said that they went on to be huge success after war, however my point stands, MacArthur and Patton were soldiers that led their war efforts, rather than the politicans in Congress.

Since I should "go fu[red]
ck myself", why don't you try and un-fu[/red]ck yourself first. Rather sad and funny that you bi[green]tch and whine about your karma...and still didn't clarify. Had you, I would have taken my comment out and apologized as it was unwarranted. But hey, if you're that worried what a bunch of people on the internet think about you that your precious rating means that much to you, here's a rate up to boost your e-peen!
#56 Jun 24 2006 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
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We need to get behind those that are over there and show them the same commitment and loyalty that they show to us, nevermind politics.


I find that 99% of the people who say this have never been shot at.

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#57 Jun 24 2006 at 8:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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If it's a sockpuppet that's been to Iraq, does that make it a terrorist?
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#58 Jun 24 2006 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
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I'm for the war but only because I'm a huge woman's rights believer.
Not saying it's any better now, not saying it will be better a year from now.
But with the change in government it will get better.

I'm not saying it's wrong to be against it, not at all, and yes our current administration is not what it could be, not even close. I'm Just saying at least a little good will come out of it if nothing else.
#59 Jun 24 2006 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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I'm for the war but only because I'm a huge woman's rights believer.


I'm for smoking crack because obesity is a big problem.

Smoking crack WILL help kids lose weight.
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#60 Jun 24 2006 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone can be for or against something. It seems you guys need to return to school and learn how to read properly. You even quoted the statement, and didn't get it right. My opinion on the matter is this: IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN COMBAT, DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH WAR. People die when you mix the two. You can be for, or against war. Not my problem. Just don't start banging the drum one way or the other for the sake of politics.
Are there wars that are not motivated by politics?
#61 Jun 24 2006 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:

We need to get behind those that are over there and show them the same commitment and loyalty that they show to us, nevermind politics.


I find that 99% of the people who say this have never been shot at.


I've been shot at thank you, and I'd like to show the same support for my friends that are still over there, that was showed to me. I've done my time in Afghanistan, spent time in Kandahar (out of Bagram), and I pray daily that those still over there come home safely, as I did.

I'm going to ask that you please show a little more consideration, and compassion to veterans. I don't hold much for your support of me personally, but I would hope that you could at least bring yourself to support those that took an oath to defend the freedoms that you have, and do their best to protect the Constitution of the United States of America, even if the morons in Washington don't.
#62 Jun 24 2006 at 10:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Metastophicleas wrote:
even if the morons in Washington don't.


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#63 Jun 24 2006 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Metastophicleas, you ignorant ****...


I've been shot at thank you, and I'd like to show the same support for my friends that are still over there, that was showed to me.


What the fucck does that even MEAN? Do you even have any clue what you're asking for, or are you just so in love with the phrase "support the troops" that you spew it out randomly without regard to logic or pretense? I'm fairly sure I probably didn't show you any support for being a meaningless infentissimally small cog in a machine that barely knows you exist. Really. What is it you propse? That I should blindly pretend that a pintless war that has failed miserably thusfar and resulted in tens of thousands of kids maimed for life is suddenly a 4th of July parade because you hid in an RV in the desert?

Thanks, no.


I've done my time in Afghanistan, spent time in Kandahar (out of Bagram), and I pray daily that those still over there come home safely, as I did.


Blag, blah, blah. Praying helps less than you voulunteering to go back and protect them personally. Why do you hate the troops so?


I'm going to ask that you please show a little more consideration, and compassion to veterans.


I give them money for whiskey whenever I see them panhadnling. Compassion? Saying this war is a tragic and foolish exersize in forieng policy as planned by people who never got past being 10 years old and playing with army men doesn't have anything to do with compassion for poor suckers who wanted to pay for college and instead got stuck being traffic cops in Mosul. I think everyone has compassion for the suckers. The suckers don't make policy though. Making the connection that not supporting the people who made the policy equates to not supporting people who get shot because of their decisions is mindmubingly stupid. Even for an elisted man.



I don't hold much for your support of me personally, but I would hope that you could at least bring yourself to support those that took an oath to defend the freedoms that you have, and do their best to protect the Constitution of the United States of America, even if the morons in Washington don't.


When they're doing any of those things, I do. Let me know when that's the case, because it sure as hell isn't right now.




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#64 Jun 24 2006 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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show a little more consideration, and compassion to veterans who don't exist, except as the figments of the imagination of some flag waving, God Bless America chanting, chain letter writing, essayist wanna be
Ficksed.

Edited, Jun 24th 2006 at 11:50pm EDT by Yanari
#65 Jun 24 2006 at 11:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I understand politics. I know that people play the game that way. Doesn't make it right.


See, I don't think you do. It's possible you're being deliberately obtuse, of course.

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Weather [sic] any of us like it or not, we're at war. It's time to get over the petty squabbling and constant posturing that's being done. People need to buck up and face it that their opinions of weather [sic] we're doing the "right" thing or not, and realize that we're committed, and we need to finish the mission, if for no other reason than to make sure that those that died already, didn't die a wasted death because of a wasted effort from those that support them.


Wasted lives don't get un-wasted because we resolutely throw more lives on the bonfire. "I'm too arrogant to admit I was wrong" is not a valid reason to continue on a misguided path.

If we're not doing the "right" thing, we need to rethink what we are doing.

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We need to get behind those that are over there and show them the same commitment and loyalty that they show to us, nevermind politics. Call me an idealist, but I don't give a **** what you think about me anyway.


First of all, "idealist" is hardly an insult; nor is it the label I'd apply to your rather jejeune understanding. Second, you're confusing the troops with the policy makers, again. No one is criticizing or ostracizing or castigating the troops. We reserve that for the, you guessed it, politicians.

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Oh, and I never said that they went on to be huge success after war, however my point stands, MacArthur and Patton were soldiers that led their war efforts, rather than the politicans in Congress.


Well, if they weren't successful it's kinda pointless to bring them up, isn't it? Aside from that, they led the war effort on the battlefield - not in the war rooms in Washington. Again, it's that little bit of difference between policy makers and soldiers.
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#66 Jun 25 2006 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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Praying helps less than you volunteering to go back and protect them personally.


You're never going to get into Muslim heaven with an attitude like that.
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#68 Jun 25 2006 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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How did you fit in?


Who says I ever fit in?

Besides, interrupting an ostentatious and trite two page wad of self indulgent, meaningless rhetoric, that was by far not even worth the time to skim let alone read with an obscure reference to a year old thread that 3 people will even remember is not cool here anymore? Well if thats the case then I have even less of an urge to fit in that I did at the beginning of this abomination of a thread.

In short,

no, youshutup.

Edited, Jun 25th 2006 at 8:29am EDT by xythex
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#69 Jun 25 2006 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I think this post is actually a clever trap. All the OP really said was that the war sucked and, if you know anyone stuck in it, please support them - write or call them. But it was done in such a way as to be a "tar baby" for the typical lunatic who posts here.

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