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#1 Jun 20 2006 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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AUSTIN, Texas -- A 14-year-old girl who says she was sexually assaulted by another user of MySpace.com sued the social networking Web site Monday, claiming it does not take sufficient steps to protect underage members.

The girl says a 19-year-old man lied in his profile about being a senior on a football team to gain her trust and phone number.

Pete Solis was arrested in May on a charge of sexual assault of a child. He could not immediately be reached Monday evening.

The suit alleges that MySpace has "absolutely no meaningful protections or security measures to protect underage users."

"(MySpace) has got to take this seriously," said attorney Carl Barry, who is representing the girl and her mother. The suit seeks $30 million.

In a statement, MySpace said it is committed to the safety of its members.

"We take aggressive measures to protect our members," said Hemanshu Nigam, chief security officer. "Ultimately, Internet safety is a shared responsibility. We encourage everyone on the Internet to engage in smart Web practices and have open family dialogue about how to apply offline lessons in the online world."
So part of me wonders how this case was substantially different from a 19 year old passing himself off as a high school student at the library or Dairy Queen or "Under 21" club or where ever this generation hangs out. Another part of me acknowledges that MySpace (and related sites) are a hotbed of all manners of pervish activity, deception and trouble in the making. On the other hand, the same can be said for any internet chat medium. At the end of the day, I just don't see MySpace as responsible for this.

Ironically, it would seem that the best way to make MySpace "safe" would be to restrict it entirely from the under-18 set and require a credit card for an account. While not perfect, it would help out.
Should MySpace.com be held liable?
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They should hold some liability, but not to the tune of $30mil:16 (18.8%)
Their hands are clean on this one:65 (76.5%)
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#2 Jun 20 2006 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Did he leave any marks? Smiley: deadhorse
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#3 Jun 20 2006 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Did he leave any marks? Smiley: deadhorse
The harlot probably didn't have a scratch on her.
#4 Jun 20 2006 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
Did she sustain physical injuries?


Other than that, you can't always point the blame at someone else. Dont hook up with stangers, no matter how many sweets they offer you. Thats the basic rule of life. And if you ignore it, take pictures so the guy goes to jail.
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#5 Jun 20 2006 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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#6 Jun 20 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Doesn't Myspace.com require you to state that you're over 18? Isn't that how you got Codyy's page closed?

If so, and she just checked that box without a thought to its intent (or to the truth), then I would hold them blameless.

And shame on her mother for not talking to the kid about being careful. Dear Bob, whatever happened to "Don't talk to/go anywhere with strangers"?

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This is what happens when you fu[Aqua][/Aqua]ck a stranger in the ***.
#8 Jun 20 2006 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Just like any social network, there will be those who use it for ebil purposes. This is not the fault of MySpace. But like any service, there should be at least some protections in place to minimize serious threats to the safety of the service's users.



middle ground 4tw!

#9 Jun 20 2006 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, that's sort of what I was talking about. If they don't require a user to assert that they're at least 18, then they should. If they do... well, what else can they really do, besides police any reports they receive of bad behavior?

Welcome to the Internet. Watch yourself.
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#10 Jun 20 2006 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
pictures? video?
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He wouldn't have been able to view her profile without her express permission through accepting him as a friend. Also, if she is 14 and registered, odds are she lied and made herself older as to enjoy more of the content since there actually are age restrictions.

And $30 million? That is ridiculous. I really can't wait for legislation banning lawsuits. I am glad they already have some class action regulations now.

This is ridiculous. Not only is MySpace non-liable, but after hearing what she is trying to do, I am glad this happened to her. *sigh* People like that just **** me off. As for the perpetrator, well, he needs to be taken care of. Why not sue him...

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So part of me wonders how this case was substantially different from a 19 year old passing himself off as a high school student at the library or Dairy Queen or "Under 21" club or where ever this generation hangs out.


Great point Joph. Next time a chick tells me she is 19 and I find out she is 24, that club better be watching out. Gonna take them out of business
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#12 Jun 20 2006 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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#14 Jun 20 2006 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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RedPhoenixxxxxx wrote:
Dont hook up with strangers, no matter how many sweets they offer you.
"A stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet!" - Barney the Dinosaur


A friend is just an ennemy who hasn't focked you in the *** yet! - Redphoenixxxxxx the philosopher.

Edited, Jun 20th 2006 at 11:41am EDT by RedPhoenixxxxxx
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But like any service, there should be at least some protections in place to minimize serious threats to the safety of the service's users.
Just to listen to myself type as I repeat what's been said, I think the big problem is that under-age users regularly go out of their way to defeat whatever protections a site puts up. Everyone assumes they know what they're doing and that they can handle themselves so no one is happy sitting in the shallow end of the pool with the rest of the kids.

Short of curtailing everyone's access unless they can provide age verification, I'm not sure what else they can do to keep kids from lying. If this case proves to have traction, I wouldn't be suprised to see them go in that direction.
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#16 Jun 20 2006 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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I'm always really cautious about this sort of thing.

That's why I only register with sites that make me expose my hairy meat & 2 veg to prove I'm not a kiddyblinky.

What? Dana didn't make you all do that when you signed up for premium?
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#17 Jun 20 2006 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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Personally, I added myspace.com and all of it's various and inter-related sub-domains (mail.myspace.com, vids.myspace.com, pics.myspace.org, etc) to the blocked sites list.

That may not solve all of the problems of dealing with a 14 year old... but I figure keeping her from being able to talk to the psychos on myspace in the first place is a good start.

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#18 Jun 20 2006 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
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You know, many a parent I've spoken to puts off the stranger talk, or goes by what they tell the kid at school, and years go by, and then this. I'm not blaming the parents, or saying 'scare the bejesus out of your child', but really: No time like the present to make sure you're being explicit about important things. To a kid, repetition is everything. It's not going to stick in that head unless you repeat it, and the best way is to do so matter-of-factly and as explicitly as you can for that age (Four: "Only Mommy or Daddy can come get you at school, even if somebody says we sent them, we didn't, okay? Remember, I love you no matter what anyone says and I won't be mad." Thirteen: "No meeting people over the Internet. There are child molesters and rapists that will pretend to be your age and lie to meet you.")
Then of course, at ANY age, there are tools like computer site blockers and phone calls to other parents to make sure that computer usage is supervised, if not limited.

The rape is not her fault. It's the fault of the sick fu[Firebrick][/Firebrick]ck that raped her. However, her behavior did increase her risk, so to speak, and it's a shame that she will have to carry a heavier burden of mistrust now than the one she would have just toted around had she had a healthier respect for risk.

As for the lawsuit, it takes an older person to sue. Methinks the parents have guilt pangs.
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[quote=The Associated Press]AUSTIN, Texas -- A 14-year-old girl who says she was sexually assaulted by another user of MySpace.com sued the social networking Web site Monday, claiming it does not take sufficient steps to protect underage members.


I sure as hell would like to know what "sufficient steps" her parents took to protect their underage daughter. Edit: Forgot to put in that most pedophiles and rapists are now taking advantage of the fact that kids are going to sneak around behind their parents' back. And parents need to make it clear to their kids that their kids can go to them for anything, no matter what.

After the thread I started about my oldest being online, I found that more than a few 14 year olds in the area we live in blatantly lied about their age so their profiles would go public. One of them, a 14 year old girl, was joking (I hope) about a new sex position in one of her profile pics. Made me realize that as much as my son wants to go online, he's still going to have limits and boundaries set by his parents. I can't prevent him from doing things if he's bound and determined, but I'm sure as hell going to try to protect him.

Edited, Jun 20th 2006 at 12:06pm EDT by Thumbelyna
#20 Jun 20 2006 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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That may not solve all of the problems of dealing with a 14 year old... but I figure keeping her from being able to talk to the psychos on myspace in the first place is a good start.

I'd love to get her thoughts on the matter. What's her email address?
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Their hands are clean. If a 14 year old girl is being pathetic and trying to have an online relationship with some guy she met on myspace, anything that happens is her own fault. If she had a huge problem with this, it's a good thing she didn't use xanga, there are a s[/cyan]hitload of sick f[cyan]ucks there.
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Their hands are clean. If a 14 year old girl is being pathetic and trying to have an online relationship with some guy she met on myspace, anything that happens is her own fault. If she had a huge problem with this, it's a good thing she didn't use xanga, there are a s[/cyan]hitload of sick f[cyan]ucks there.


Or how about we just stick to the general principle that the criminal who actually committed a crime by sexually assaulting her is at fault? I know it seems really difficult on this forum sometimes, but we could be all wild and crazy and not always blame the victim.

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Driftwood the Eccentric wrote:
Their hands are clean. If a 14 year old girl is being pathetic and trying to have an online relationship with some guy she met on myspace, anything that happens is her own fault. If she had a huge problem with this, it's a good thing she didn't use xanga, there are a s[/cyan]hitload of sick f[cyan]ucks there.


Or how about we just stick to the general principle that the criminal who actually committed a crime by sexually assaulting her is at fault? I know it seems really difficult on this forum sometimes, but we could be all wild and crazy and not always blame the victim.

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I'd agree, however suing MySpace over it just reeks of bulldoody.
#24 Jun 20 2006 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd agree, however suing MySpace over it just reeks of bulldoody.


She's 14. I don't think she's probably the one who had the idea to sue anyone.

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#25 Jun 20 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
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I'd agree, however suing MySpace over it just reeks of bulldoody.


She's 14. I don't think she's probably the one who had the idea to sue anyone.

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Spent much time around teenagers lately? I'd not put something like that past them.


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That may not solve all of the problems of dealing with a 14 year old... but I figure keeping her from being able to talk to the psychos on myspace in the first place is a good start.


I'd love to get her thoughts on the matter. What's her email address?


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Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 8:07am EDT by KriegsmaschineVondentoten
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