Remember the Duke LAX rape case?Follow

Well, of course. You never know when you might be called upon to service Her Majesty.

I suppose in theory that once a ***** says, "Stop!" during sexual intercourse the john should indeed stop, but given her profession and the mindset of the two parties concerned, the practical realities of the situation say that that just ain't happening short of the guy taking a branding iron or something to her during the act of sex wherein she is in dire danger of her life or the building she is in is on fire or something.

Each of you are arguing this from a clinical standpoint where everything is neat and orderly, people are lawabiding, and wanting to do what is right. What you fail to acknowledge is that none of that is happening when you move out of Never-never Land and enter the world of prostitution and the people who live within that universe. Rape, if you can truly call it that, of a prostitute is an ever present danger for no other reason than her chosen line of work. If you can have a reasonable expectation of a predictable event occuring (rape) due to a specific action being taken (having sex for a living), then it is reasonable to assume that you either 1) have accepted the risks and are implicitly accepting the byproducts of that dangerous course of action, or 2) are ignoring the likely consequences of a dangerous profession, thereby in both cases taking upon yourself the burden of reasonable caution or care.

While it would wonderful if johns would stop being filthy pigs intent only on rutting with the nice little ***** with the golden heart, that line of thought utterly ignores the fact that both parties have already agreed to engage in an illegal act in the first place. These men are not precisely the kind of individuals likely to place much stock in the nicities of polite and proper responses to a suddenly squeamish hooker, are they? And the whores know this going into their profession. Who do you think you are kidding by attempting to portray this a something cut and dried where the hooker has all the rights in this case?

This isn't a case of ol' Totem being a mysogynist with caveman-like wooing skills. The hooker has to assume partial responsibility for getting herself in a situation or predicament where rough sex, errr, a rape is likely to occur.

Totem

Only if she can provide evidence that the john didn't leave money afterwards~!!!!

Yeah, it's just plain crazy trying to examine the legality of situations if that's how you zero your scales, right?

I'll elaborate. Since when has the legality of an issue simply been dismissed with "so what, people are @#%^s"? This is a trial. You have to examine things with the idea in mind that people will act in accordance with the law. Whether or not the act is a commonality has no bearing on whether or not it is illegal.

And honestly, stopping during the middle of sex isn't a lot to ask when stacked up against a person's right to their own body. I know blue balls hurt like nothing else, but c'mon.

One last thing. As I said before, unless the prostitute accepts money for the act, then it's either consentual sex, or rape. You keep bringing up that their engaging in an illegal activity in the first place, but that's only if the prostitute took money for it. I'll personally agree that if a hooker says to a john "give me X amount of money and i'll have sex with you", and then goes back on the arrangement, she must give back the money. If not, then she isn't armed in any way to make a rape allegation.

Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 3:12pm EDT by Eske

Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 3:19pm EDT by Eske

How about we compare it to armed robbery because both involve force and a gun.

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No, Eske, I simply am pointing out the fact that you and others are treating this as if this is something clear cut. However, the fact that she is a prostitute muddies the waters considerably, even when omitting the evidence we have been given to date. Barring any photographic evidence or a fellow Duke LAX player testifying against another teammate to an all black, handpicked-by-the-DA-for-the-express-purpose-of-hangin'-those-white-boys jury whose intent is to correct a history of racial injustices (ala OJ Simpson), I cannot see how this case is even close to being winnable for the State.

Once again, in theory I suppose a prostitute can be raped. But the practical realities of her profession dictate otherwise, at least from a legally provable in a court of law sort of way.

Totem

For such a clean living, family orientated, upright guy you are quite the moralist aren't you?

Not really. More of a pragmatic realist. Besides, half of what I say is just Devil's advocate kind of ****.

Totem

Way to throw mud on Satan, hater.

However, the fact that she is a prostitute muddies the waters considerably

No, it dosen't. At all.

If a woman is paid to have sex with 100,000 men and then does with 99,999 of them and then decides she doesn't want to with the last one and he does anwya, it's rape.

It's not unlcear at all.

Just tidying up Smash