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#1 Jun 19 2006 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
This is a plea to those with children who have been weaned from the bottle.

Sometimes (most of the time) Aedyn wakes up in the middle of the night and I just give her a bottle to get her to go back to sleep. Sometimes she falls asleep while eating, sometimes not. Even if she doesn't fall asleep, she is quiet when I put her down.

Last night, we stepped up our efforts to try to get rid of the last bottle that she still gets. That little girl screamed bloody murder for over an hour. After the first 15 minutes I went in and checked her diaper and made sure she was otherwise ok. While I was in there she was fine, as soon as I left the howling started again. I let it go longer then I ever have, and finally caved around 1am and gave her a bottle.

Does anyone have any tips or other advice that helped them in this situation? Tonight I'm going to replace the milk in her bottle with water, so at least we won't have to worry about tooth decay. She seems to handle a tippy cup ok during the day, but at night she doesn't want anything to do with it.

Edited, Jun 19th 2006 at 6:38pm EDT by Wint
#2 Jun 19 2006 at 5:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just a smidgeon of Heroin in that last bottle.

Guaranteed.
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#3 Jun 19 2006 at 5:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Like anything in this situation, the first few times are going to be the hardest. Not for her: for you.

If you decide to take the bottle away fully, that's fine. But make the decision and do not waver. Expect screaming for a loooooong time each night for the first few days. Whatever you do, do not give in, even once. If you do you are reinforcing that screaming will eventually give her what she wants. Sorry chap. you're in for a few rough nights. After a few days, she will lessen the time of screaming down until hopefully, by the end of week one or 2, she will realize that crib time means sleeping and not eating.

If you decide to allow her the bottle, you should definitely have water only in it. Otherwise, like you mentioned, you run the risk of tooth decya. Either way, welcome to one of parentings "funnest" parts and get used to it. You will be dealing with this type of battle of the wills for the next 18 years =)
#4 Jun 19 2006 at 5:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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I forgot to add this important part. Dont pick her up either. You can go in to her room ever ten minutes, rub her back, soothingly tell her you're there for her, but its time to sleep. Stay a minute or two to confirm you hear her and you are there, but do not pick her up. Same idea as giving her the bottle again. If you pick her up you just reinforce that the more she screams the more shes going to get what she wants. THIS is the HARDEST time of parenting, right here!!! Mothers cry outside the door as they listen to their child scream, thinking they are killing their kids. I did it myself. But its not hurting them, its not mean, its not evil. It is literally reinforcing positive behavior to your child that crib is for sleeping.
#5 Jun 19 2006 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
Nobby wrote:
Just a smidgeon of Heroin in that last bottle.


Reminds me of my Dad's stories where they got whiskey on their gums for teething. Tempting for sure.

DSD wrote:
If you decide to take the bottle away fully, that's fine. But make the decision and do not waver. Expect screaming for a loooooong time each night for the first few days. Whatever you do, do not give in, even once. If you do you are reinforcing that screaming will eventually give her what she wants. Sorry chap. you're in for a few rough nights. After a few days, she will lessen the time of screaming down until hopefully, by the end of week one or 2, she will realize that crib time means sleeping and not eating.


I had a feeling that was the case. Maybe we'll start this on a Friday night rather than a Monday. I didn't want to give in for that very reason but I am up at 5am, and I had to get some sleep.

The little s[/Aliceblue]hit knows she owns us, after I got done giving her the bottle last night she looked up at me and giggled. It was as if she was saying, "You're my b[Aliceblue]itch".

DSD wrote:
Mothers cry outside the door as they listen to their child scream, thinking they are killing their kids.


Thankfully her mother sleeps with earplugs. She knows we're trying to wean Aedyn, but at least she didn't have to hear it :)

Edited, Jun 19th 2006 at 6:47pm EDT by Wint
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I have 2 children 6mths & 2 1/2yrs What my wife and I did was as my 2 yr old was getting older I switched his normal bottle for one with handles this helped him get the feel of feeding himself, after he was feeding himself for the most part we moved him from a crib to a toddler bed replacing his milk with water. He now goes to bed with a sippy cup of water that sits on his nightstand.
#7 Jun 19 2006 at 5:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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OK. If you wuss out on the Heroin suggestion (A whole new meaning to "Should you smack your child"), what DSD said.

For one of hours we only had about a week before he got the message that squawking all night wouldn't get him what he wanted.

With the 2nd spawn, he took a couple of months to settle down.

Be strong, young Padawan.
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#8 Jun 19 2006 at 5:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wint wrote:


The little s[/Aliceblue]hit knows she owns us, after I got done giving her the bottle last night she looked up at me and giggled. It was as if she was saying, "You're my b[Aliceblue]itch".


Oh yeah. She owns you. Now the question is, do you have the balls to become your own bi[Aqua][/Aqua]tch again? ;)
#9 Jun 19 2006 at 6:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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When we weaned Mia from the bottle, I just started taking them away little by little and replacing them with a cup. She resisted a little at first but then she realized that this was the way things were going to be and accepted it. Important to not second-guess once you start.

As for a bottle at night, Mia didn't wake up for feedings at night past 5 months. I'm not sure how old your daughter is, Wint, but I'm sure she's old enough to not need a bottle at night. To her, that bottle is comfort and nothing more. Now, arm yourself with the knowledge that she is fine and doesn't need that bottle at night and you'll have won half the battle. The other half is what to do about the crying that will come from the removal of the bottle. Listening to them cry is heartbreaking, I know, but in my experience letting them cry it out works. And it works in no time. Everyone has their own opinion on the matter, no doubt. I tried every technique there was to avoid letting Mia cry at night. In the end, it took 4 days of crying it out (on both our parts) and Mia was sleeping through the night without a peep. She happily goes into her crib at night and puts herself to sleep. Just don't waffle if you do decide to try it. Giving in only teaches them that screaming works.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
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#10 Jun 19 2006 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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Wint, it just gets worse/better as they get older.You'll see Smiley: wink2
#11 Jun 19 2006 at 6:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Everything that everyone else said. Oh, and wear earplugs. You'll be able to get through the crying jags better if they're muffled.

The hardest for me was not picking them up. So what do I do? I grabbed some pillows, sat on the floor and just put my fingers on the bed and sang for what seemed hours.

It's a tough stage and it's just the setting stage for the epic battle of wills that wages on until one of you moves out of the home (hopefully the kids and not you).
#12 Jun 19 2006 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Giving in only teaches them that screaming works.


And the next thing you know they're having trouble getting parts in any decent films because they have a reputation for being difficult. Damn divas.
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#13 Jun 19 2006 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Giving in only teaches them that screaming works.


And the next thing you know they're having trouble getting parts in any decent films because they have a reputation for being difficult. Damn divas.


No wire hangers!! Smiley: mad

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#14 Jun 19 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems worked for us. Don't give her mixed signals. Once you decide to do this then stick with it or you will make it much worse.
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#15 Jun 19 2006 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Whoops.

Edited, Jun 19th 2006 at 8:44pm EDT by Debalic
#16 Jun 19 2006 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
For one of hours we only had about a week before he got the message that squawking all night wouldn't get him what he wanted.

Is that why he's such an attention ***** now? Smiley: laugh

I just can't believe that Wint's child is almost named Aadynn. Smiley: dubious
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#17 Jun 19 2006 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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We're doing this with Hannah right this moment. She was sleeping through the night, but then she got sick and was up a lot...set us back a bit. She's better now, but now thinks she can scream every time she wakes up and get cuddles. I *hate* this.

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#18 Jun 19 2006 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
If she's old enough to understand the "big girl" theory maybe make it a big procedure with a surprise at the end. If she will throw her bottle in the trash herself she gets some "big girl" item. I remember this working effectivly on my younger two siblings.
#19 Jun 19 2006 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent


Just before my goddaughter's third birthday, her mother spent a large amount of time talking up the fact that on that day, her pacifier was going to go into the trash. So, when talking to her, someone would say "oh, you have a birthday coming up" and she would be excited, tell you she was three, and that she was going to "throw pacie in the trash!" Then, if someone asked her what she was getting for her birthday, she would announce "another pacie."

#20 Jun 19 2006 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
i have 2 kids ages 2 and 3 and didnt have any problems weaning them from the bottle. first i would let them go to bed with a sippy cup of water. now they go to sleep every night with a pacifier. (i only let them have it at sleep times) eventually i feel they will outgrow this and not need one at all. i think parents are so worked up about their children learning and growing that they forget that every child learns and grows at different paces. i believe that if you give constant guidance (ie big girls dont use bottles, they use cups ect...) but dont be pushy they will learn for themselves and give up the bottle, diaper, pascifer, ect when they are ready to give it up.
#21 Jun 19 2006 at 11:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Change her name from Aedyn before it's too late.

#22 Jun 19 2006 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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Change her name from Aedyn before it's too late.


Unless Aadyn is the real father, then keep it and live with your shame.
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#23 Jun 19 2006 at 11:59 PM Rating: Good
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Zactly. The kid is likely screaming at the horror of being named Aedyn. How fortunate you weren't having an off day where you casually named him (her?) Lumpy Fat Sacks or something to that effect. Hey, don't laugh, Hollywood types have been naming their spawn of late with monikers that'll be producing therapist bills in the hundreds of thousands in a matter of a few years. Pilot Inspektor? Bluebell Madonna? Cottage Cheese? Phineas?!? Good lord, these kids are a lock for severe beatings every day out on the playground. Poor little bastards. And I mean that-- most of those kids really are bastards. Illegitimate, conceived out of holy matrimony, goofy a$$ed bastards.

But I digress. As to your problem, what DSD says. That there is good advice. The only thing I'd add is to throw in a whoopin' every now and then to make sure they know you're boss. See? Parenting in two easy steps.

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#24 Jun 20 2006 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
We wanted to name her Plaintain but settled on Aedyn Jane instead.

Speaking of Phineas, every time I hear that name I think of Phineas Gage.
#25 Jun 20 2006 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
Wint wrote:
We wanted to name her Plaintain but settled on Aedyn Jane instead.

Speaking of Phineas, every time I hear that name I think of Phineas Gage.
YOu could have used a comprimise: Plain Jane!
#26 Jun 20 2006 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems worked for us. Don't give her mixed signals. Once you decide to do this then stick with it or you will make it much worse.


You are such a dweeb.
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