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#1 Jun 14 2006 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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Totem, you wanted to know what would make me respect Bush a bit more? This is a good start.

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Bush acknowledges Guantanamo damages US image

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush acknowledged on Wednesday that the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where three detainees committed suicide, has damaged the U.S. image abroad and said it should be shut down.

But he said a plan for relocating the prisoners was needed first and he was also awaiting a Supreme Court decision about the forum for handling detainee cases.

"I'd like to close Guantanamo, but I also recognize that we're holding some people there that are darn dangerous and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts," Bush told a news conference in the White House Rose Garden.

He said Guantanamo is seen by some countries as an example of the United States not upholding the values it espouses on human rights.

"No question, Guantanamo sends, you know, a signal to some of our friends -- provides an excuse, for example, to say, 'The United States is not upholding the values that they're trying encourage other countries to adhere to,"' Bush said.

Two Saudis and a Yemeni were found dead at the prison on Saturday after hanging themselves with clothes and bedsheets.

The suicides were the first prisoner deaths at Guantanamo, although there have been many previous suicide attempts and hunger strikes since the United States began sending suspected al Qaeda and Taliban captives there in 2002.

Guantanamo is one of several issues that have undermined support abroad and among human rights groups for Washington's war on terrorism, declared after the September 11 attacks.

The suicides came amid an investigation of U.S. Marines after an alleged massacre of two dozen civilians at Haditha,Iraq, in November 2005 and after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal.

Bush, who spoke hours after returning from a surprise visit to Iraq, said he was asked about such cases by a member of the Iraqi cabinet. He promised to deal with the incidents.

"And I reminded her that ours is a transparent society where people will see and follow these investigations. And people will be held to account, according to our laws," Bush said.

"But I also want the people to understand, here and around the world, that 99.9 percent of our troops are honorable, decent people who are serving our country under difficult conditions," he added.

Nearly all the prisoners at Guantanamo are being held without charge and some have been detained for more than three years. The 460 foreigners in the prison were captured mainly in Afghanistan during the U.S.-led war there to oust the Taliban and al Qaeda after the September 11 attacks.

The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule this month on the legitimacy of special military tribunals set up to try some of the prisoners for war crimes. Ten detainees face hearings before the tribunals.

Bush said the United States was also in a difficult position in some cases in which it wants to send prisoners back to their home countries since such moves have been criticized.

"Of course, sometimes we get criticized for sending some people out of Guantanamo back to their home country because of the nature of the home countries -- a little bit of a Catch-22," Bush said.

He added that a lot of detainees have been sent back already.

According to the Pentagon, 287 detainees have left Guantanamo. That includes 192 who have been released and 95 who were transferred to the custody of other governments.

Surprisingly thoughtful and cohesive. Not bad, not bad.
#2 Jun 14 2006 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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"I'd like to close Guantanamo, but I also recognize that we're holding some people there that are darn dangerous and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts," Bush told a news conference in the White House Rose Garden.


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#3 Jun 14 2006 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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Better than not bad.

If he can now teach Tory Bliar about acknowledging that things need to change, we could be onto something here.

Nice one Geo'ge.
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#4 Jun 14 2006 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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#5 Jun 14 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
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Ok good he sees it is a bad image. But he doesn't mention shutting it down. He wants to "relocate" it. Maybe there is more, I tried to read the important things. But I didn't see anything about shutting it down and letting the prisoners go, just that we are gonna move them.
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#6 Jun 14 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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For some reason this strikes me as nothing more than a repeat on how he handled beef ban with Canada.

"I want to end this as quickly as possibly because it is obviously bad for both countries and Canada are our allies"

meanwhile he did everything in his power to drag the process out and hinder a quick resolution.
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#7 Jun 14 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Better than not bad.
I do have a rep, you old coot.
#8 Jun 14 2006 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd like to close Guantanamo


Can't even make it past the damn second sentence. ><

But doesn't say they are... But good for him if they actually close it.
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#9 Jun 14 2006 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Nobby wrote:
Better than not bad.
I do have a rep, you old coot.
Several Smiley: sly
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#10 Jun 14 2006 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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In fact it also reminds me of that time he claimed that anyone involved with outting Valerie Plame would be fired on the spot no questions asked.


(are we seeing a pattern of say one thing do another)
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#11 Jun 14 2006 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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MYteddy wrote:
Ok good he sees it is a bad image. But he doesn't mention shutting it down. He wants to "relocate" it. Maybe there is more, I tried to read the important things. But I didn't see anything about shutting it down and letting the prisoners go, just that we are gonna move them.

Did you even read it? The whole point was that he said it should be shut down, but not without a plan. Of course words without action are just that, but he just made the statement to the press an hour ago, for Christ's sake. I'm willing to hold my condemnation until I can ascertain that he's just putting out a soundbyte.

Edit b/c I found a bit in the AFP article (above from Reuters):
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His administration was waiting for the US Supreme Court to make a decision in a case in which a US federal court ruled a detainee was being held at Guantanamo in contravention of US law and the constitution, he said.

Wait a cotton pickin' minute....


So now it's okay to be guided in matters of law by the Supreme Court? Smiley: banghead

Edited, Jun 14th 2006 at 2:33pm EDT by Atomicflea
#12 Jun 14 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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If you read two posts more I retracted part of my statement. Made a new post instead of editing. My fault so i will partially allow your little flame and let it go.

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I'd like to close Guantanamo


Can't even make it past the damn second sentence. ><

But doesn't say they are... But good for him if they actually close it.


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#13 Jun 14 2006 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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Damn, about time he did something right. I guess it's true what they say: The sun shines on a dog's *** once in a while."
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