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#27 Jun 13 2006 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
In general, people don't care. How many fat fu[Azure][/Azure]cks at a grocery store do you see buying fat free anything? Care to take a guess as to how many people who make pre-packaged food a regular part of their diet will choose a reduced sodium product?


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#28 Jun 13 2006 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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But when we begin to take away the choice under the assumtion we are helping people, really we're not. You take away their power of choice.

Again, you're talking about an adult in full control of their faculties, and I'm not. Not even all adults are consciousless, but some have health conditions which limit their intake of certain foods.

Again, I retierate: You both see it as a limit, a handicap, a big no-no and, according to jacobsdeception, even an insult. I just don't. I see it as a move towards healthier eating, and I'm for that, since I know the high-fat high-calorie options aren't going anywhere, and the existing choices won't be limited. As for the majority leading decision-making (and if any such law gets voted into existance, that's who would do it), well, it's a pitfall of democracy.
#29 Jun 13 2006 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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I dont know why this worked for me, but if you have any chocolate icecream ( or any flavor I guess) in the house, eat just a couple spoonfuls slowly and see if that helps at all. It calmed my stomach down quickly whenver I started to feel queasy


Didn't have morning sickness myself. But chocolate ice cream was my addiction during my pregnancy. I could NOT stop eating it. It got to the point that even my boys knew not to touch Mommy's chocolate ice cream in the freezer if there was only one container left. Smiley: oyvey
#30 Jun 13 2006 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:

Again, you're talking about an adult in full control of their faculties, and I'm not. Not even all adults are consciousless, but some have health conditions which limit their intake of certain foods.

Again, I retierate: You both see it as a limit, a handicap, a big no-no and, according to jacobsdeception, even an insult. I just don't. I see it as a move towards healthier eating, and I'm for that, since I know the high-fat high-calorie options aren't going anywhere, and the existing choices won't be limited. As for the majority leading decision-making (and if any such law gets voted into existance, that's who would do it), well, it's a pitfall of democracy.


The amount of adults out there who do not have full capacity of their mind and choices are a minority to the rest. Everyone else must make their choices and stick with the consequences.

And for those people out there who have to limit their intake on certain products, they are taught what they can and can not eat, and they make the choice to stick with that. You seem to imply that there is a very small portion of healthy decent priced food available to the public and I completely disagree. Any adult out there who is not special needs has full capacity to choose what they put in their bodies. Those who do not have that capacity, are generally helped out by people who care for them. I dont see the issue.

The point of this thread was that people are suing KFC for the way they cook their food. It is a fast food joint. People have the choice to go there or pick another place. There does not have to be a lawsuit to every single fast food joint out there because people are not making hte proper decidions for themselves. When people sue McDonalds for making them fat, it is taking the blame away from them, from their own choices. What good is that to people when you can make poor choices for yourselves and your children and place the blame elsewhere?

My stance is that for the people out there who care enough about themselves and their kids, there are plenty of options for healthy eating that wont break the bank. My son can not get enough of apples, broccoli, bananas, and carrots. Does he eat junk food? Sometimes, and as a kid does, he loves it. But it doesnt keep him from asking more often than not for apples. And Id like to say its because as a parent I have shown him that healthy food can taste just as good, if not better, than junk food.




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#31 Jun 13 2006 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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I see it as a move towards healthier eating, and I'm for that, since I know the high-fat high-calorie options aren't going anywhere, and the existing choices won't be limited.
Not if people keep up with this line of reasoning. What you are talking about is a change in eating habits by force, not by will. If this group is successful in forcing KFC to use a different oil for cooking because there is something else that is healthier, then what is to stop another group from forcing Starbucks to only use non-fat milk because it's better for you? Or perhaps they should ban all sugar from all candy and use something healthier for that too? Forcing a single company, or even an entire industry, to change their product line won't stop people from making poor eating habits.

I don't disagree that more healthy eating options wouldn't be nice to see. It would be great to see a big name food company cater to the masses with pre-packaged products, but that isn't what people buy. If there was money in it, you better believe that corporations would make full on health ridden products.
Some small companies are already doing quite well for themselves in that niche market, but it's a niche for a reason. People prefer Fruit Loops to dried fruit, will buy SPAM over Tofu, and would rather have fish sticks than poached salmon. Sure, they'll eat broccoli, but only if you cover it in velveeta & Bacon'bits first.

Being able to stuff my fat face with a double-chili-cheese-dog w/onions and a side order of calories in a cup is a freedom I hold dear. Having that taken away in order to give the multitude of retards in this country a minor benefit which they won't recieve is most certainly an insult to me.
#32 Jun 13 2006 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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The point of this thread was that people are suing KFC for the way they cook their food.
I wasn't commenting on the OP. I was commenting on the fact that I think a nationwide movement towards healthier eating is a good thing. As for someone suing KFC, I think it's as inane as suing for burning themselves for hot coffee, but that doesn't invalidate my arguments towards healthy eating and food options. There's a wide stretch between asking companies to stick to a certain health standard, and allowing for a total lack of responsibility on the part of the individual.

Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
Not if people keep up with this line of reasoning. What you are talking about is a change in eating habits by force, not by will.
Slippery Slope! Smiley: laugh

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I don't disagree that more healthy eating options wouldn't be nice to see. It would be great to see a big name food company cater to the masses with pre-packaged products, but that isn't what people buy.
We have some agreement, then, except it's been proven that there is a very good market for these kinds of foods.

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Being able to stuff my fat face with a double-chili-cheese-dog w/onions and a side order of calories in a cup is a freedom I hold dear. Having that taken away in order to give the multitude of retards in this country a minor benefit which they won't recieve is most certainly an insult to me.
It's a good thing no one's talking about taking that right away, then!
#33 Jun 13 2006 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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I was commenting on the fact that I think a nationwide movement towards healthier eating is a good thing.


A antionwide movement will only happen when the nation itself begins to care. Unfortunately I think thats a long way off from really taking root. When the majority of the country is overweight, and many are obese, the concious choices these people make prove that whether or not you strive for the countries available food becomes healthier,not all, but many of those people will still go for the twinkies in the convenient stores instead of an apple. The people HAVE to make the choice!!! And while many of us do in our own private lives, these people do not see that what they are doing is dangerous, and until they are told by their doctors they have only 5 years to live because of their eating habits, I have little hope that most of them will change. YOu can make as many choices as you want available, and those people who need it the most will still go for the junk food 9 times out of 10

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#34 Jun 13 2006 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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#35 Jun 13 2006 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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We have some agreement, then, except it's been proven that there is a very good market for these kinds of foods.
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I go to the grocery store a lot. I don't buy large amounts of anything and go shopping a few times a week. When not giving dirty looks to the people around me, I inspect the contents of others' shopping carts. Maybe it's a regional thing, but 'these kinds of foods' aren't horribly popular at any of the places I patronize. I am usually the only one standing in the hippy food section.

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It's a good thing no one's talking about taking that right away, then!
Perhaps I should rephrase what I meant.

When I want a generic pre-packaged product, I want it replete with all it's sodium enriched goodness. I don't like the idea that I may not have that option as a result of others' poor eating habits.
#36 Jun 13 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:

When I want a generic pre-packaged product, I want it replete with all it's sodium enriched goodness. I don't like the idea that I may not have that option as a result of others' poor eating habits.
The heart of the matter, as it were. Don't worry. If it sells in your area, they'll continue to carry it, AND hopefully, a lower-cal option.
#37 Jun 13 2006 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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While Alton Brown is the Food Channel "god," his frying wisdom doesn't apply to KFC. KFC uses pressure cooker-friers - so the oil is injected into the bird, because of the pressure. It cooks faster, I think, and tastes much better (mmmmm, grease).

Ramen can be healthy. By itself, yeah, it's just noodles - which are carbs - which are just sugar. And lots of salt.

But if you add vegetables to the water as it comes up, it's another story. I slice up some onion, toss in some of those little carrots, break off pieces of broccoli, or toss in frozen peas or frozen green beans. As much as you can stand. The salty soup helps me choke those veggies down. Oh - let the veggies get pretty much cooked before adding noodles (it doesn't take long at all). You can add some frozen shrimp, crumble up hamburger meat, chop up some sliced ham, or mix up an egg and pour it in "egg drop" style for protein - or slice up some tofu. You can add a little hot sauce, soy sauce (not too much), fish sauce, oyster sauce - whatever you're into. Just watch the msg.

But yeah, I do wish the busy-bodies would leave us the hell alone. Coffee is GOOD for you. We just need better researchers - ones who can prove that tequila shots, scotch, pollution, and whatever else are also good for you.
#38 Jun 13 2006 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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The heart of the matter, as it were. Don't worry. If it sells in your area, they'll continue to carry it, AND hopefully, a lower-cal option.


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#39 Jun 14 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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Bah, I need to clean out my ears. Not a law, but an AMA mandate.

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CHICAGO - The nation's largest doctors group is pushing for new warning labels. Only these labels aren't for drugs — they're for food.

The American Medical Association voted Tuesday to urge the government to require high-salt foods to be labeled and also vowed to push the food industry to drastically cut the amount of salt in restaurant and processed foods. The goal would be 50 percent less salt within a decade.

Americans eat almost twice the amount of salt they should, and that contributes to high blood pressure and heart problems, the AMA says.

Labels with pictures of salt shakers bearing the word "high" and red exclamation marks might help consumers think twice about eating high-sodium foods, suggested an AMA council report that led to the new policy.

Foods considered high in salt are those with more than 480 milligrams of sodium per serving, according to the AMA report. That includes hot dogs, some canned soups, a slice of packaged pepperoni pizza, an order of chicken chow mein and a cheeseburger, according to a food chart accompanying the council report.
#40 Jun 14 2006 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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#41 Jun 14 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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The American Medical Association voted Tuesday to urge the government to require high-salt foods to be labeled and also vowed to push the food industry to drastically cut the amount of salt in restaurant and processed foods.

Aren't those the same retards that said you shouldn't eat eggs and that margerine is better for you than butter?

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Americans eat almost twice the amount of salt they should, and that contributes to high blood pressure and heart problems, the AMA says.
And oddly enough, not as much as some Asian populations consume.

Somewhat related, I just glanced over an article written by the people suing in the OP. If their stance on KFC is anything like their stance on Salt, they are complete ********* Rhetoric and scare tactics, check!
#42 Jun 14 2006 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
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The American Medical Association voted Tuesday to urge the government to require high-salt foods to be labeled and also vowed to push the food industry to drastically cut the amount of salt in restaurant and processed foods.

Aren't those the same retards that said you shouldn't eat eggs and that margerine is better for you than butter?
Dude, science is not an exact science.
#43 Jun 14 2006 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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c) Go straight in my trash can (unless they tell me I can smoke & drink more)
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#44 Jun 14 2006 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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What if the medical body has double D's, and the idea is to have a quick shag?
#45 Jun 14 2006 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
What if the medical body has double D's, and the idea is to have a quick shag?
Hmm. Philosophy > n0bby
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#46 Jun 14 2006 at 1:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
What if the medical body has double D's, and the idea is to have a quick shag?
Hmm. Everything > n0bby

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