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#1 Jun 13 2006 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. consumer group sued the operator of the KFC fried chicken restaurant chain on Tuesday to try and force it to stop it from frying foods in an artery-clogging fat.
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The Center for Science in the Public Interest, in a suit filed against Yum Brands Inc. in the Superior Court for the District of Columbia, said some KFC meals were "startlingly" high in artery-clogging trans fat from the partially hydrogenated oils used for frying.

CSPI Executive Director Michael Jacobson said it was harder to avoid trans fat at KFC than at other fast-food restaurants.




So if you don’t like your food prepared this way Why eat there.
#2 Jun 13 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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I'm actually thinking of joining that group. I hope they can do something to help me out in my own little agenda. I want to press law makers to force all chinese restaurants to only steam their food because fried foods are bad for you. I also want to file suit against Kellogs for putting sugar on their Frosted Flakes, fuc[Darkgreen][/Darkgreen]king commies.
#3 Jun 13 2006 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Because some people are busybodies.

Then there are those that want to eat things that should be bad for them, but have them be good for them.

Also: according to Alton Brown, properly fried food should keep the water inside the food at the boiling point causing the internal pressure to keep the oil and fat on the outside. So maybe if KFC just re-invented the way they fry, there would be less of a problem. Unless the skin manages to absorb that much oil.

I was under the impression that the high fat content comes from fat soaking the meat, not the skin.
#4 Jun 13 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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What happened to good, old fashioned letter writing campaigns?

If a company hears from enough consumers about an issue to the point where they believe it's going to start impacting their profits, they tend to take that into consideration.

I guess that's not so newsworthy and requires more people to actually do something though.

What was I thinking?
#5 Jun 13 2006 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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I heard something else in the news this morning about requiring prepackaged foods to drop their sodium by 50%. I'm all for it. Anything to help with this damned bloat. Smiley: mad
#6 Jun 13 2006 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard something else in the news this morning about requiring prepackaged foods to drop their sodium by 50%. I'm all for it. Anything to help with this damned bloat.

God forbid you regulate your own intake.
#7 Jun 13 2006 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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People are pathetic.
#8 Jun 13 2006 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Sh[/red]it, it's bad enough that PETA protests outside the resturants, but now they're being sued....sheesh. Don't we as Americans have the right to be fat, lazy, fu[green]ckwads if we want?
#9 Jun 13 2006 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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I heard something else in the news this morning about requiring prepackaged foods to drop their sodium by 50%. I'm all for it. Anything to help with this damned bloat.

God forbid you regulate your own intake.
Aside from the obvious fact that I was joking, why can't it be both? I would understand if taking away sodium and fat shrank your pee-pee or gave you cancer, but it might actually make you healthier. I suppose that would hurt. Smiley: frown
#10 Jun 13 2006 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that what we need to do as a society is not regulate things in this manner via lawsuits and legislation, but via education.

If you can educate a person to take better care of themselves, and why they should want to do it, it would help. By making people responsable for themselves, and giving them the knowledge to be responsable for themselves, you'd solve the problem.

If someone is too lazy or stupid to be educated...it's their own fault isn't it?
#11 Jun 13 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
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I heard something else in the news this morning about requiring prepackaged foods to drop their sodium by 50%. I'm all for it. Anything to help with this damned bloat.

God forbid you regulate your own intake.
Aside from the obvious fact that I was joking, why can't it be both? I would understand if taking away sodium and fat shrank your pee-pee or gave you cancer, but it might actually make you healthier. I suppose that would hurt. Smiley: frown


I realized you were too, but couldn't come up with a funny enough response, so I decided to ***** instead. I suppose I should have said "maybe its not the sodium". I guess Sodium regulation puts me on edge since my blood pressure is higher than it should be for my age.

I agree that it should be both mainly because I don't always read labels, and some stuff has more sodium than you would give it credit for. I also realize that if I just blame it on people being pathetic I look like Neph. Regulating your obvious intake is very easy, don't put salt on things. Beyond that it becomes a little harder. It may say that the Diet Coke has 150mg of sodium, but after all, thats only 10% of your daily intake... right?

#12 Jun 13 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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Aside from the obvious fact that I was joking, why can't it be both? I would understand if taking away sodium and fat shrank your pee-pee or gave you cancer, but it might actually make you healthier. I suppose that would hurt.
Because it's not their place to tell me what I can and cannot eat, or more aptly what someone can and cannot sell me to eat. Everything is fully disclosed on the package so there is no reason people can't read it and decide for themselves.

One could argue that people are too stupid to do so and I would agree. I would also point out then that those people deserve everything that happens to them as a result, and I can only hope they die from it.

In terms of restaurants, most chains have data for the food they serve. If they don't, a little common sense is all you need. Is it fried, sweet, or not marked as low-fat with a special asterix, a miniature heart, or on the 'diet menu'? If you ordered it in restaurant it's probably not very healthy. Order a diet coke, that should offset the 1,800 calories you just had for lunch.
#13 Jun 13 2006 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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That's a pretty one-dimensional way to look at it. A child who is fed by parents who can better afford low-priced, higher-fat foods with more additives doesn't have the intellect or reasoning yet to plan a healthy meal, not to mention parents aren't with them 24/7 when they pile on the hash browns and ketchup at school. Of course teaching people to eat right is important, but so is making sure that there are healthy food choices available at all price points. I fail to see where offering both can do anything other than help combat the problem. In the meantime, if you want the higher-fat, higher-sodium product, go for it.
#14 Jun 13 2006 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Of course teaching people to eat right is important, but so is making sure that there are healthy food choices available at all price points. I fail to see where offering both can do anything other than help combat the problem. In the meantime, if you want the higher-fat, higher-sodium product, go for it.
With the possible exception of Ramen Noodles or generic brand Mac & Cheese, I can guarantee you that it is both cheaper and healthier to prepare meals than to buy pre-packaged products. The same holds true for damn near any restaurant as well. The fact that people are too lazy to cook up a decent meal and think TV dinners and hot dogs are acceptable replacements shouldn't be driving our food regulations.
#15 Jun 13 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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but to that I say its up to the parents to instill healthy eating habits in their children. Kids may not be able to read and understand the contents in their foods, but parents can and its their job. I agree with KJ here. If the contents are on the package, you as an adult, make the choice of what you put into your body. There are plenty of choices, both good and bad, to eat. Each individual should be able to make their choices. And whether you have more money to spend on higer quality food is untrue. There is plenty of very healthy food out there for you, and it can usually be cheaper than McDonalds if you shop smart

edited this because it was towards Fles last post and KJ types too damn fast

Edited, Jun 13th 2006 at 12:30pm EST by DSD
#16 Jun 13 2006 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
The fact that people are too lazy to cook up a decent meal and think TV dinners and hot dogs are acceptable replacements shouldn't be driving our food regulations.

Wait... Are you saying that ramen and mac and cheese are healthy, or that they aren't? That sentence reads funny. Here's a news flash: No parent cooks meals 100% of the time. Sometimes, you eat out and sometimes, you buy prepackaged. Sometimes, it's not even your choice. You try to minimize these occasions because you know they're not the best, but it happens. Your kid doesn't always want the steamed broccoli and chicken with the wild rice. You can make him eat it, but he makes up for it by eating corn dogs at school during lunch, or by having pizza at a birthday party.

Again, I think that the assumption that lazy fatasses are the ones driving this train of thought are one-dimensional. It's actually the people that care about what they put in their mouth that want food options that are both convenient and healthy, and that their children may actually grow up enjoying because they taste just as good as something deep-fried. I see it as increasing options, and I suppose you see it as limiting options. You could always take the healthy food home and deep-fry it. Smiley: laugh
#17 Jun 13 2006 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that's because of trends. The cost of those items that are healthier should in theroy be cheaper, just because you can throw sh[red][/red]it on the plants to fertilize them. There is less in the end product, so in theory, there is less cost to produce them, whatever them is, be it fruit, vegetables, meats, etc.

Where we run into the problem, is the fad diets that make everyone stupid with their money. Because the people that live here are so poorly educated about the actual issues including health, they tend to go for the quick, easy food and diet, rather than actually see what it is they're injesting. I'm guilty of this too, but I try to compensate for it, except this damn soda habit, that's a tough bugger to get rid of. Back to my example, the Atkins diet that everyone bit into. I was reading a story locally where people were willing to pay almost double the price in '04 for Atkins related items (not Atkins branded items), than the year before, because of the fad diet craze. Americans have gotten lazy, and have really picked up the "I want it, and I WANT IT NOW!!!" mentality that has doomed us to be fat, lazy, and stupid. We're more worried about who's on American Idol, than what we're putting into our bodies.

Were we to have better education from the begining for people, I think the overall health of the U.S. would be better. Look at Japan for instance. Most of the population is healthy. They eat a diet that consists primarily untainted fish and rices, mixed with non-cemical laden chicken and other foods. Few problems with heart diesese, cancers (that I know of), and other high risk killers in the U.S. If we were to match the same health values in our foods, stop wasting so much on "education" dollars per student in the classroom ('cause it's not doing any good, test scores keep dropping), and put some of those dollers in to food and health education for those kids from day one, they'd be better off. Take the fast food out of the schools, and put the focus back on to fruits and vegetables.

It may have to come down to governmental education, but it's be sad that people are so lazy that they'd rather reach for Pop-tarts than make a sandwich. The sandwich is much more healthy, takes minimum effort, and about the same amount of time. I suppose we need to start teaching common sense in school again, and get the damn activists out of education. Start teaching things that really matter again, math, history, health (not sex ed.), english, economics, etc.
#18 Jun 13 2006 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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But there are plenty of options out there, both for the health concious and those who are not.

While you bring up the point that no parent can moniter what goes in their kids mouths 24/7, so what? If you hold something back from a child all the time while their friends get to eat it, it will become more of an obsession to them. They wonder why they cant have candy when their friends can. This can lead to more problems down the road. Does it happen to everyone? Nope. But it can happen to many. And while candy may not be the best thing for your child, having a little here and there is not going to harm the child or you. Everything in moderation. That goes for junk food, and anything else. Bad food here and there will not harm you. Sometimes having a little bit of fried food can get that craving out of your system and you do not crave it again for weeks. This is what happens to me. Every once in awhile I crave a juicy burger and french fries. Once I have it, Im sated, and I dont need that for weeks. If I didnt have the option of having it though, it could become an obsesion. Its only when you make the choise to eat it more often than not that the problem occurs. Its a matter of choice and will power. But when we begin to take away the choice under the assumtion we are helping people, really we're not. You take away their power of choice.

Im not saying some people need that to happen. Many people out there use food, and specifically junk food, to fill some hole in their life. It becomes a crutch. But if its not food, it could be something else.

People have the powert to make their own choices. The choices are out there.
#19 Jun 13 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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This thread is making me pukey.

Ugh.
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#20 Jun 13 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Morning sickness hitting you, Tare?
#21 Jun 13 2006 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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I guess it is...bleh...
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#22 Jun 13 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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I dont know why this worked for me, but if you have any chocolate icecream ( or any flavor I guess) in the house, eat just a couple spoonfuls slowly and see if that helps at all. It calmed my stomach down quickly whenver I started to feel queasy
#23 Jun 13 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds terrible!

Any excuse to eat ice cream. Yay!
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#24 Jun 13 2006 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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My ex-wife had a thing for lemon-filled doughnuts and ginger ale for calming her stomach down...I think it was more the ginger ale, but hey. It does work when I feel ill, sometimes.
#25 Jun 13 2006 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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Wait... Are you saying that ramen and mac and cheese are healthy, or that they aren't?
No, they are cheap but ultimately not good for a regular inclusion to a diet. Those 2 products are expections to the rule of being cheaper.

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Here's a news flash: No parent cooks meals 100% of the time. Sometimes, you eat out and sometimes, you buy prepackaged.
I never claimed contrary. The key to a decent diet is moderation. The problems arise when the majority of your food intake consists of Big Macs, hot dogs, Mac & Cheese, General Tso's chicken, or those ****** salsbury steaks that guy on TV always wants to come over your house to eat. As long as it isn't a habit, take-out, pre-packaged, or dining out isn't that bad for you.

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Again, I think that the assumption that lazy fatasses are the ones driving this train of thought are one-dimensional.
The only involvement the lazy fatasses have is that they are the target of both parties. Food corps want them to be lazy and fat and buy their ****. Hippy tree-hugging activists want to make them stop being lazy fatasses, but realize that they are too stupid and fat and lazy to do it themselves, so they want to fix it for them, however; since they can't effect them individually they attack the companies that make the food.

My major arguement is that I don't think you should force a company to change a product if that product isn't a danger in and of itself. It sets a **** precedent if you allow a group like this to decide what a food corp can sell based on what they think people should or shouldnt' eat. It also degrades those people who knowingly purchase these products being fully informed of their content based on product preference.

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I see it as increasing options, and I suppose you see it as limiting options.
I haven't read any article concerning the sodium level reduction and I didn't see any link. From what I could gather based on what you wrote, I assume they want to reduce all products by 50%. That is a limit in options. If they force companies to increase product options I can't see how that won't hurt the company.

In general, people don't care. How many fat fu[Azure][/Azure]cks at a grocery store do you see buying fat free anything? Care to take a guess as to how many people who make pre-packaged food a regular part of their diet will choose a reduced sodium product?
#26 Jun 13 2006 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
In general, people don't care. How many fat fu[Azure][/Azure]cks at a grocery store do you see buying fat free anything? Care to take a guess as to how many people who make pre-packaged food a regular part of their diet will choose a reduced sodium product?


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Nice use of azure also.
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