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#152 Jun 14 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Bodhi,

For all our occasional flirtation, of course, I don't know you from Adam, so my opinion here is worth exactly what you're paying for it. I'm sorry to inflict a baji-esque long post on you. That said...

The goal of being more proactive about your future is an admirable one. The fact that you are willing to take an honest inventory of your life and see where you might be falling short in holding up your end of a committed relationship is ALSO very laudable. But in the course of about 24 hours, you've gone from a position of "It's all her fault" to "It's all my fault" and I suspect that neither one is a very balanced or healthy approach.

It takes two people to make a relationship not work. I know, I know, that's not something we're supposed to admit to--we're supposed to blame everything on the ex. But it's true. So while you're taking an honest inventory of YOUR contribution to the difficulties in the relationship, you also need to be taking an honest inventory of 1) your contribution to the successes of the relationship, and 2) HER contribution to both the difficulties and successes in the relationship.

I see you now writing "I'm going to change this" and "I'm going to give up that" and "this is what I'm doing wrong." But what I don't see is what she's going to change, or give up, or not do anymore. And if there's going to be an honest-to-God reconciliation here that's going to stick, I guarantee you the change cannot come from only one person.

Now, a game is a stupid, trivial thing and one can certainly live without it, so if it seems like people are harping on the fact that you've decided to give up playing your MMO, it's not because we don't want to lose you (though we don't!) but because it seems representative of a greater imbalance here.

Last night in game chat, I harped on the point "moderation/balance in all things" a couple times. I believe this is true. For every "MMO widow" out there, there are dozens of couples in which one or both partners manage to spend a bit of time playing and enjoying themselves, and still expend the necessary energy to make the relationship work. Forgive me, but it seems like your actions of the past couple days have been along the lines of the grandiose, but ultimately meaningless, gestures we talked about earlier in the thread. The roses and teddy bear--nice, definitely attention-getting, and the sort of fairy-tale gesture that you mentioned earlier in the thread that she expects a "true" romantic gesture to be. Giving up gaming--big "see? I love you so much I'm sacrificing something I really enjoy!" gesture, but ultimately I SERIOUSLY doubt that 2 hours or so a day gaming is anywhere near the core of your relationship difficulties.

I tend to view gaming as a substitute for TV time. Most people spend 2 hours or so a night in front of the TV not talking to each other or doing anything more worthwhile and don't feel guilty about that, or that it's somehow a sign of their "immaturity," or feel compelled to give that time up when the relationship isn't working. Gaming just has an "immature" stigma that TV viewing doesn't. I guess the question is--what is it that you COULD be doing with the time you spend gaming that will improve the relationship, and is it REALISTIC to expect to be doing it in place of every single gaming session? If you give up gaming, will you just transfer back to the TV for two hours a night instead? Whatever compensatory activity you're planning to replace gaming with, I doubt that it's something you can expect to be doing every single day. So a more "balanced" approach would be "All right, I'm going to LIMIT my gaming to three or four nights a week, and on these other days, I'm going to do 'X' to improve the relationship and/or myself in the relationship."

Huge, sweeping changes and sacrifice aren't necessarily any more healthy than the floundering relationship is to begin with. They look good on paper, but often breed resentment, and a lot of times only serve to mask to true problems in the relationship. Like I said, my advice is worth what you're paying for it, but I'd recommend another more soul-searching session, and this time with an eye toward finding balance between the "it's all my fault" and "it's all her fault" positions.

Good luck.

#153 Jun 14 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
Get off your sh'it.


I am giving up a f'ucking video game that which has as of late been negatively affecting other aspects of my life. Its not like its a passion or defining aspect of my life.


My last post was a little more open than just video games, really. Fine. Games are kiddish at best, but then again, what hobby isn't?

Do you honestly think video games is the last (and only) thing she's going to have you give up?

Here's to your next goodbye thread! Smiley: laugh
#154 Jun 14 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Bhod, you love this girl. You've expressed it a lot. But you have also been nonstop unhappy, unsatisfied for months, except for the immediate time after a great makeup.

Hell, I thought that was just part of his shtick. You mean Bodhis are supposed to be happy?

Next you'll be telling me that I should be happy. Smiley: dubious
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#155 Jun 14 2006 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Bhod, you love this girl. You've expressed it a lot. But you have also been nonstop unhappy, unsatisfied for months, except for the immediate time after a great makeup.

Hell, I thought that was just part of his shtick. You mean Bodhis are supposed to be happy?

Next you'll be telling me that I should be happy. Smiley: dubious


No, he's just passing the torch. Next person to post gets his drama Smiley: queen crown!
#156 Jun 14 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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That was you? had I known, I'd have let the wife take pics.


Neph only frequents the finest truckstop and gas station glory holes (less teeth, Mr. Nibbles!) Smiley: grin

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#157 Jun 14 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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I think its fair to say that I had a faulty view on things when replying earlier in the thread.

Where I saw her being unhappy with small gestures, and thought she didnt view that as being enough, it is probably more the case that she was happy and pleased by them but ultimately frustrated because in the end as much as she loved me and saw that I loved her she didn't see me being willing to take the plunge. That I was gonna keep on trucking in the same ole manner, while she was ready for something else.

So everything good was always tinged with that. Not unfulled with the actual action but the overall big picture and for good reason.

I think its the difference between percieving it as her saying "If you love me you must do 'X'" but rather as "I love you but it is important for you to realize that 'X' is a priority too me and something I have to do, I would love you to join me but if you can't well its just something I have to do"

Of course I am no word smith so I am trivializing it to relay the message as simply as I can.



Edited, Jun 14th 2006 at 1:57pm EDT by bodhisattva
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#158 Jun 14 2006 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
I think its fair to say that I had a faulty view on things when replying earlier in the thread.

Where I saw her being unhappy with small gestures, and thought she didnt view that as being enough, it is probably more the case that she was happy and pleased by them but ultimately frustrated because in the end as much as she loved me and saw that I loved her she didn't see me being willing to take the plunge. That I was gonna keep on trucking in the same ole manner, while she was ready for something else.

So everything good was always tinged with that. Not unfulled with the actual action but the overall big picture and for good reason.

I think its the difference between percieving it as her saying "If you love me you must do 'X'" but rather as "I love you but it is important for you to realize that 'X' is a priority too me and something I have to do, I would love you to join me but if you can't well its just something I have to do"

Of course I am no word smith so I am trivializing it to relay the message as simply as I can.


and in English?. . .
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#159 Jun 14 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Queen bodhisattva wrote:
I think its fair to say that I had a faulty view on things when replying earlier in the thread.

Where I saw her being unhappy with small gestures, and thought she didnt view that as being enough, it is probably more the case that she was happy and pleased by them but ultimately frustrated because in the end as much as she loved me and saw that I loved her she didn't see me being willing to take the plunge. That I was gonna keep on trucking in the same ole manner, while she was ready for something else.

So everything good was always tinged with that. Not unfulled with the actual action but the overall big picture and for good reason.

I think its the difference between percieving it as her saying "If you love me you must do 'X'" but rather as "I love you but it is important for you to realize that 'X' is a priority too me and something I have to do, I would love you to join me but if you can't well its just something I have to do"

Of course I am no word smith so I am trivializing it to relay the message as simply as I can.


and in English?. . .



I like having easy access to a ****** so I bite my tongue and bear it.
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#160 Jun 14 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
I like having easy access to a ****** so I bite my tongue and bear it.

Now if you'd just said that in the first place. . . . Smiley: clap
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#161 Jun 14 2006 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Queen bodhisattva wrote:
I like having easy access to a ****** so I bite my tongue and bear it.

Now if you'd just said that in the first place. . . . Smiley: clap


...if I had said that in the first place I wouldn't be a Drama Queen.
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#162 Jun 14 2006 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
I like having easy access to a ****** so I bite my tongue and bear it.
Smiley: laugh Finally, a breakthrough!!!!
#163 Jun 14 2006 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh...


Carry on. Smiley: grin
#164 Jun 14 2006 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh btw Bodhi, um, can I have your stuff? Smiley: wink2
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#165 Jun 14 2006 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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I gotta lot of Junk Smiley: wink

I'd be happy to give you a peice.
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#166 Jun 14 2006 at 3:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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And thus concludes another episode of "As Bhodi's World Turns"...Smiley: queen

Will Bhodi find the balance for romance and addictive computer gaming? Will he still make time for **** at least?

Will Neph ever find true love at the many glory holes he frequents?

Will Nobby ever tell Darqflame about his penile erection dysfunction?

Will Goalkeeper, Smasharoo, and Patrician find their true loves amidst all the hotties at the World Cup? Or simply find it with each other?

Will DSD ever sell her home to move south to drink many cocktails with Tare and commiserate about their pregnancy aches and pains?

Will Moe and Aegisgoat ever post again on the Asylum forums?

These and many, many other questions will be alluded to on the next episode of "As Bhodi's World Turns"...Smiley: queen
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#167 Jun 14 2006 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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Smoggy the Mighty wrote:
Will Nobby ever tell Darqflame about his penile erection dysfunction?


He did here is a portion of the record:

Nobby
: It won't go down

DF
: Ummmm... have you tried well you know....

Nobby: I have.

DF: and...

Nobby: nothing..

DF:I'm on the next plane over, meet me at the airport

Nobby:I might be a little bit late. I have to strap it to my thigh before I can go out in public.
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#168 Jun 14 2006 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:
Smoggy the Mighty wrote:
Will Nobby ever tell Darqflame about his penile erection dysfunction?


He did here is a portion of the record:

Nobby
: It won't go down

DF
: Ummmm... have you tried well you know....

Nobby: I have.

DF: and...

Nobby: nothing..

DF:I'm on the next plane over, meet me at the airport

Nobby:I might be a little bit late. I have to strap it to my thigh before I can go out in public. I'll be the chap with my right foot raised above my head
Fixed
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#169 Jun 14 2006 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Queen bodhisattva wrote:
Smoggy the Mighty wrote:
Will Nobby ever tell Darqflame about his penile erection dysfunction?


He did here is a portion of the record:

Nobby
: It won't go down

DF
: Ummmm... have you tried well you know....

Nobby: I have.

DF: and...

Nobby: nothing..

DF:I'm on the next plane over, meet me at the airport

Nobby:I might be a little bit late. I have to strap it to my thigh before I can go out in public. I'll be the chap with my right foot raised above my head
Fixed



HA!
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#170 Jun 14 2006 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be the chap with my right foot raised above my head


Wow, you're bendy.
#171 Jun 14 2006 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
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I'll be the chap with my right foot raised above my head


Wow, you're bendy.
Smiley: sly
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#172 Jun 14 2006 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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Smoggy the Mighty wrote:
Will DSD ever sell her home to move south to drink many cocktails with Tare and commiserate about their pregnancy aches and pains?


Mocktails for us. Smiley: frown

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#173 Jun 14 2006 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Queen bodhisattva wrote:
Smoggy the Mighty wrote:
Will Nobby ever tell Darqflame about his penile erection dysfunction?


He did here is a portion of the record:

Nobby
: It won't go down

DF
: Ummmm... have you tried well you know....

Nobby: I have.

DF: and...

Nobby: nothing..

DF:I'm on the next plane over, meet me at the airport

Nobby:I might be a little bit late. I have to strap it to my thigh before I can go out in public. I'll be the chap with my right foot raised above my head

DFI'll be the girl with a ladder and a smile!
Fixed


Fixed indeed!

Edited, Jun 14th 2006 at 4:01pm EST by bodhisattva
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#174 Jun 14 2006 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Queen bodhisattva wrote:

Fixed indeed!
As fixed as fixed can be.

Cu[Aqua][/Aqua]nt.

+1 Bhodhisattva
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