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It's time to reinstate a teenage curfewFollow

#1 Jun 08 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
Fuc[Aliceblue][/Aliceblue]king stupid teens strike again! I say re-instate a city-wide teen curfew indicating that any teen found roaming the streets after 8PM will be shot on site.

Damn hippies and their inability to deal with anything correctly! [:grumpyoldman:]

If I lived in that city, I'd do one of two things:
1) Move
2) Install bullet-proof glass and re-inforce my walls to stop random bullets; and install a gattling gun on a roof mounted turret.

Anyone who comes near my family with a gun will rue the day!

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HARTFORD, Conn. - A man who refused to give up his gold and diamond chain. Two teenagers hanging out on a front porch. Four family members in front of their house planning a cookout.

They were among 20 people shot, three fatally, in Connecticut's capital since May 24 in a surge of seemingly senseless violence that has clergy and state lawmakers calling for a cease-fire and state troopers preparing to walk the beat.

Hartford and some other cities around the country are seeing a disturbing rise in shootings — many of them prompted not by drugs or money, but by petty squabbles and perceived slights. Young people are drawing guns over respect, turf and relationships.

Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.

"I'm anticipating a very, very bad summer," he said.

Summer violence is not unusual in Hartford, a city of 125,000 that is a pocket of poverty in the nation's second-wealthiest state. But residents say this year is different because so many people have been shot in such a short time.

From Jan. 1 to May 27, the most recent figures available, police reported 83 shootings, up 25 percent from the same period last year.

Those killed include Kerry Foster Jr., 15, described as a good kid with perfect school attendance who tried to stay away from the turf wars roiling his neighborhood. He and a 14-year-old friend were hit by shots from a passing car as they stood on Foster's front porch.

"I'm fretting these numbers because one of these days, it could be coming to your door," said Sam Saylor, a father of two teenagers. "I'm feeling helpless, and when men feel helpless, they go to drastic measures."

DiChiara, who is part of a federally-funded project that works to keep the peace in the two Hartford neighborhoods where most of the shootings have occurred, said this year's violence is the worst since he arrived in the city 16 years ago.

He said the gang wars of the early 1990s were easier to deal with because they involved organized factions that could be reasoned with.

Across the country, cities have reported recent increases in violence after years of declining national crime rates.

In Little Rock, Ark., there have been 33 homicides so far this year, slightly ahead of the pace of 1993, when gang violence caused a sharp increase. Sgt. Terry Hastings said most of the killings this year were prompted by drugs or soured relationships.

"We can't figure out why suddenly you're talking and then you start shooting," he said. "How, as a law enforcement agency, do you deal with that?"

Philadelphia's homicide toll is running about even with last year's count, when a total of 380 people were killed, the most since 1997. In San Francisco, the number of killings is running at a 10-year high. And in Jacksonville, Fla., there have been at least 64 homicides this year, compared with 36 this time last year.

In Hartford, where clergy and lawmakers have asked for a 60-day cease-fire, the plan is to create teams of adults to visit high schools and teen centers to talk with young people and their families. Teams of mental health workers will also be sent out into the community to talk about anger management and available mental health services.

"We're here to listen to you. This is not the police coming," said state Rep. Kenneth Green of Hartford. "We want to begin to engage you in how to solve this problem."

For the fourth summer in a row, uniformed state troopers and plainclothes officers will be dispatched to help city police patrol neighborhoods. Federal agents will also help out.

Despite the increased police presence, many parents are keeping their children inside.

Saylor said he is willing to submit to random traffic stops by police or other measures that could help stop the gunfire.

"I'm willing to give up some civil liberties if it means saving one kid's life," he said last week. "There's a sense of a complete absence of law right now, and I'm not ashamed to say I'm scared to death."
#2 Jun 08 2006 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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What good do good teeth do ya when your grill is six feet under? Smiley: frown
#3 Jun 08 2006 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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They'll probably blame it on Grand Theft Auto or some other game.

I seem to remember every town I grew up in having a curfew for minors. Granted, some towns were so small there was no one to enforce it, but it was in the books as far as I know. My cousin and I got stopped one night walking between our Grandmother's house and his dad's. They were 6 blocks apart and it was after midnight. The cop let us off with a warning, I think we were about 12 at the time.

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#4 Jun 08 2006 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
Guns are dangerous..


Thats why you use swords instead.
#5 Jun 08 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
They'll probably blame it on Grand Theft Auto or some other game.


What's sad is, that's probably going to be the case. Bad parents will blame video games "teach" the kids these things. Honestly, if you don't think your child can't handle it, don't buy them the game.
#6 Jun 08 2006 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.
This has nothing to do with GTA. Get your head's out of you asses and read the damn artice before responding.


Twits.
#7 Jun 08 2006 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
When I was in college, there was an "incident" at one of the off-campus houses.

It was after summer break, and students were moving back in to the house. A teenager came up to one of the guys, and demanded that the student give him his boombox.

The student told him to get lost, and started walking towards the house. The teenager pulled a sawed-off shotgun out from under his long coat, and proceeded to shoot the student in the back. He then walked up to him, and shot him again. He then took the boom box and walked off.

He was tried as an adult, and was sentenced to life in prison.



He was 14.


#8 Jun 08 2006 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
Elderon the Wise wrote:
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Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.
This has nothing to do with GTA. Get your head's out of you asses and read the damn artice before responding.


Twits.


That's the point- VG's will likely be blamed for "desensitizing them to the deaths of others" or some crap like that, even though it has nothing to do with it. Not in this article, but in others.
#9 Jun 08 2006 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
Christ, what ever happened to settling Turf wars over a heated game of "Buck Buck"?

#10 Jun 08 2006 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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That's the point- VG's will likely be blamed for "desensitizing them to the deaths of others" or some crap like that, even though it has nothing to do with it. Not in this article, but in others.
Who cares? The real question is how do you stop the violence? Obviously it's a bunch of poor black kids who want to be thugs. Blame gangsta rap! Blame Bush! Blame New Orleans!

How do you disarm the youth. That's the question.
#11 Jun 08 2006 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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Curfew where I live is 10:00 p.m. and since it's a military base, it's enforced very strictly. I'm going to hate living off base after the husband retires. Reading stories like this is making my hair turn white.
#12 Jun 08 2006 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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That's the point- VG's will likely be blamed for "desensitizing them to the deaths of others" or some crap like that, even though it has nothing to do with it. Not in this article, but in others.



Poor kids can't afford video games


Edited, Jun 8th 2006 at 2:21pm EST by Soracloud
#13 Jun 08 2006 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
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That's the point- VG's will likely be blamed for "desensitizing them to the deaths of others" or some crap like that, even though it has nothing to do with it. Not in this article, but in others.



Poor kids can't afford video games


That's why they steal yours.
#14 Jun 08 2006 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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Who cares? The real question is how do you stop the violence? Obviously it's a bunch of poor black kids who want to be thugs. Blame gangsta rap! Blame Bush! Blame New Orleans!

/nod

The majority of violence on that side is in the poorer parts of West Hartford. Cops walking the beat won't make an overly large impact, there just aren't enough of them to go around.

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In Hartford, where clergy and lawmakers have asked for a 60-day cease-fire, the plan is to create teams of adults to visit high schools and teen centers to talk with young people and their families. Teams of mental health workers will also be sent out into the community to talk about anger management and available mental health services.

"We're here to listen to you. This is not the police coming," said state Rep. Kenneth Green of Hartford. "We want to begin to engage you in how to solve this problem."
These people are complete morons. They are going to try and reason with an anonymous group of poor, minority children with a chip on thier collective shoulder? Good luck with that. Sunday Church goers or not, you're not the boss of me!
#15 Jun 08 2006 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
Elderon the Wise wrote:
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That's the point- VG's will likely be blamed for "desensitizing them to the deaths of others" or some crap like that, even though it has nothing to do with it. Not in this article, but in others.
Who cares? The real question is how do you stop the violence? Obviously it's a bunch of poor black kids who want to be thugs. Blame gangsta rap! Blame Bush! Blame New Orleans!

How do you disarm the youth. That's the question.


Microchips that administer painful shocks to children that misbehave.

#16 Jun 08 2006 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
Two Words - Slipery Slope.
#17 Jun 08 2006 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
I'll bring the skis.
#18 Jun 08 2006 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
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Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.
This has nothing to do with GTA. Get your head's out of you asses and read the damn artice before responding.


Twits.


I read the fu[/Aqua]cking article you fu[Aqua]cking moogle-fu[Aqua][/Aqua]cker. Maybe if you learned to read somewhere other than Canada you would have gotten the gist of what I was saying.
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#19 Jun 08 2006 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
Kakar the Vile wrote:
Elderon the Wise wrote:
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Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.
This has nothing to do with GTA. Get your head's out of you asses and read the damn artice before responding.


Twits.


I read the fu[/Aqua]cking article you fu[Aqua]cking moogle-fu[Aqua][/Aqua]cker. Maybe if you learned to read somewhere other than Canada you would have gotten the gist of what I was saying.
How are those hemorrhoids doing? Has the cream helped any? Smiley: lol

My comment referred to those bandwaggoning on your first sentence becaue that was the extent of their attention span (ooo there goes a shiney).
#20 Jun 08 2006 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
Smiley: confused

His first sentence was in regards to GTA, and the paragraph after had to deal with his personal experiances with a curfew. What else was there to "bandwagon" on in his post?





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#21 Jun 08 2006 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
Kakar the Vile wrote:
Elderon the Wise wrote:
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Much of the bloodshed is attributed to 12- to 16-year-olds "settling beefs, dirty looks and somebody looking at somebody else's girlfriend," said Albert DiChiara, director of the University of Hartford's criminal justice program.
This has nothing to do with GTA. Get your head's out of you asses and read the damn artice before responding.


Twits.


I read the fu[/Aqua]cking article you fu[Aqua]cking moogle-fu[Aqua][/Aqua]cker. Maybe if you learned to read somewhere other than Canada you would have gotten the gist of what I was saying.
How are those hemorrhoids doing? Has the cream helped any? Smiley: lol

My comment referred to those bandwaggoning on your first sentence becaue that was the extent of their attention span (ooo there goes a shiney).


Ahhh. In that case, carry on. Smiley: wink
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#22 Jun 08 2006 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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It's a shame too, they can't even be rappers being from Conetticut.
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#23 Jun 08 2006 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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What's with these people? Scared to death?

People don't pull triggers when surrounded by guns that might fire back.

Grow a spine and realize you are allowing children to misbehave to such an extreme that lives are in danger.

Grandmas with shotguns would put an end to this crap.


Edited, Jun 8th 2006 at 5:29pm EST by Mossholder
#24 Jun 08 2006 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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So enforcing a curfew would help how, exactly? Do guns not discharge during daylight hours? Were all these murders committed after curfew by underage people?
#25 Jun 08 2006 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
Yanari wrote:
Were all these murders committed after curfew by underage people?
Yes.
#26 Jun 08 2006 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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