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#1 Jun 07 2006 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
building a new computer, loading windows 98,

get error message, not enough memory to load windows, quit one or more unecessory resident programs running in system config or autoexec bat.

sound like a ram problem? or are newer motherboards unfriendly to windows 98?

anyone? thanks in advance.
#2 Jun 07 2006 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Jun 07 2006 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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a new computer, loading windows 98
Liar. That's not a new computer. Windows 98 stopped being supported 2 years ago.

Edited, Jun 7th 2006 at 8:25pm EST by Elderon
#4 Jun 07 2006 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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omg there was only one small spelling mistake in that entire post


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#5 Jun 07 2006 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
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#6 Jun 07 2006 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
Wow, and here I thought double posts were just a myth used to pharm.

T'is clst7's fault

Edited, Jun 7th 2006 at 8:35pm EST by Pandorra
#7 Jun 07 2006 at 8:49 PM Rating: Good
Liar. That's not a new computer. Windows 98 stopped being supported 2 years ago.
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could care less if it is still supported or not.

its the last operating system MS made that you could put on any computer you want after you bought it without "asking permission" to upgrade or use it on another computer or without regestering with MS.

they can kiss my **** if they think im gona pay for something that is controlled on how i use it. wont buy a POS IPOD either for the same reason. i dont mind paying for what i want, but i sure as hell want to OWN it after i do.

not to mention, windows 98 will totally reformat your hard drive on boot up if you want if you have some serious softwear problems. try that with windows xp. that POS makes you fix the problem BEFORE you wipe and reload. and then, it doesnt wipe, it just plasters their POS on top of your problem, and if it was a virus, its STILL THERE after you reload it.

ill go red hat before i pay MS to RENT an operating system to use as THEY see fit.

but enough wasted time here. kinda knew the only respose from here would be the home town trolls and not much usefull info. just didnt want to wait till tomarrow, but, guess i will.

probably just a ram problem anyway.
#8 Jun 07 2006 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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#9 Jun 07 2006 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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Please define what you mean by 'reformat'. You can format any HDD with 2k or XP, sometimes just takes a little tweaking.

Also please explain how you have resident programs running on an install. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

You shouldn't be having any problems with RAM if it's a new machine. Are you using a boot disk or booting from the CD? At what point during the install are you receiving the error?
#10 Jun 07 2006 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
windows 98 doesnt download all the information on your computer to microsoft for "analitical research" , read marketing research.

windows xp does.

service pack2? ROFL, it closed a back door microsoft put in the operating system to do just that, get into your computer. they had to close it when someone found it and started plastering it all over the web. you can bet service pack 2 just closed that one and opened another.

how old are you? how many computers do you have? what type of programs do you use most? whats the average balance in your checking account? are you male or female? where do you live?

want to know? anyone with xp has already given it to microsoft, they could tel you.
#11 Jun 07 2006 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
Please define what you mean by 'reformat'. You can format any HDD with 2k or XP, sometimes just takes a little tweaking.

Also please explain how you have resident programs running on an install. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
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thats the message. top line says not enough memory to load windows, then suggests closing programs running in memory.

suspect it is either a ram problem, or a compatibility problem with the bios and windows 98. dont know.

by reformat, you can get a blue screen crash with windows 98, load it, boot it from disk, and reformat your hard drive wiping all the problems away with it on boot up.

you get a hard crash with xp, good luck. you cant even get into the directory to wipe the hard drive. all it will do is plaster itself over your problems, and write on top of it. get a nasty virus and a crash, and its there till you get a new hard drive.

i keep windows 98 because it is a very good tool. and once you won it, you OWN it.
#12 Jun 07 2006 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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almost no drivers for a new computer will work with windows 98. PLus 98 is one big security hole waiting to happen now that the the w32 virus variants exist.
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#13 Jun 07 2006 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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#14 Jun 07 2006 at 9:27 PM Rating: Good
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windows 98 doesnt download all the information on your computer to microsoft for "analitical research" , read marketing research.

windows xp does.


No. But windows98 is so rife with security holes that any data you have on it will be accessable to any idiot who can write a simple script and hack your system. Not really an improvement.

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service pack2? ROFL, it closed a back door microsoft put in the operating system to do just that, get into your computer. they had to close it when someone found it and started plastering it all over the web. you can bet service pack 2 just closed that one and opened another.


Tin foil hat much? Don't get me wrong, Window's is basically one big security flaw from the ground up and is an example of how not to do most things (although their CIFS stuff isn't bad from a file server perspective). The solution is to never put anything you don't want taken on your computer.

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how old are you? how many computers do you have? what type of programs do you use most? whats the average balance in your checking account? are you male or female? where do you live?

want to know? anyone with xp has already given it to microsoft, they could tel you.


Lol. Unless you filled out some registration thingie and actually put your name and address down, they can't get that information. And unless you're stupid and keep unencrypted financial data on your system, they can't get that either. And anyone with a network sniffer can tell how many computers you have (unless you're a decent network admin of course!). Don't need MS to do that. Male or female? I'd love to hear how my computer knows that bit of information...


Running Windows98 in order to avoid the evil data mining that MW may or may not be doing is just plain stupid. It's like insisting on driving an old car because that way the evil car companies wont require you to drive a car with airbags.

If you really don't want MS to know what you're doing, run a different OS instead. And not an older MS OS. Load up linux on your system. Run your financial programs off that one. Do your web browsing there. I use my XP system for one thing and one thing only: I play games on it. Period. And if some evil virus comes along and wipes it out? Who cares? I reinstall. And if some evil MS program comes along and reads my hard drive? Well, they'll find out that I play a handful of games. Not exactly concerned about that...


Pssst. And just for the record? MS doesn't actually do any of that stuff. Because there's a whole world full of IT experts who do nothing but log and check and verify what MS does. If they actually did grab personal data off your hard drive (more then what you give them when you register), it would be much more widely known then in the rants of someone totally unfamiliar with the IT world on a gaming site. While MS is typicall rife with security holes and exploits that can be used to read data off your system, there's no evidence that MS itself steals such data. And it's not like that would be hard to check...

Edited, Jun 7th 2006 at 9:28pm EST by gbaji
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#15 Jun 07 2006 at 10:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Windows 98 crashes and burns (blue screens included) on any machine that has more than 768 (I think, more or less) of Ram.

I figured that out with a stubborn client a few years back. Loaded 768+ ram on the comp with a dual boot of Win98 and WinXP. XP ran fine, while 98 blue screen half to death.

Took out the extra ram and brought it down to 512 and everything in Win98 spontaneously ran fine.

Don't have a clue if there's a patch fix for it, and if they haven't made one yet, they won't.
#16 Jun 08 2006 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
just to chime in here a bit.

1. win98 is not worth the hassle as most modern hardware will not run with it.

2. if you fear the spyware from XP, then install 2k pro. that has far more security then win9x, has far better hardware support then win9x and has none of the spyware of winXP.

as for formatting. that is what f-disk is for. you can do that with your win9x CD or from a boot floppy be it from win9x, or win2k (3 floppies for that IIRC), or best yet use Knoppix to format the drive.

if you are so adamant against MS, then why not try out Linux. start with a live CD like Knoppix Live CD or any of the many other Live CDs out there. IIRC SuSe also now has a Live CD vs.

I would be more then willing to help you with linux if you are willing and open minded enough to learn.

as for helping you with the error msg you are getting with win98, the only thing i can say is to boot with a boot floppy that has both format and f-disk installed on the floopy. after that, f-disk and format the drive with fat32 in how ever many partitions you wish.

after that you can then install win98 with less issues, or so you should IIRC my win9x days.

good luck.
#17 Jun 08 2006 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Can someone with computer experience please help me too?

You see I recently purchased a new computer from Alienware and I am trying to install my Windows 95tm on it.
Smiley: cry There is no place to insert my 3.5 diskette, I am going to take a chisel and make a hole in the side to insert the diskettes into my computer to install Windows 95tm. Do you think this is a good idea?

Now, if you will excuse me I need to put up some more tin-foil on my windows to keep the government from exposing me with its moral majority mega-rays that they beam at my house from a satellite.






Edited, Jun 8th 2006 at 7:28am EST by Redjed
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