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#27 Jun 03 2006 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
Mistress DVEight wrote:
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Correct. Richard Grayson, Jason Todd, and Tim Drake, in that order. (As infamous as it was, letting the readers kill off Todd was genius)


Actually Jason Todd is back as Redhood, a new batman enemy.
Think he pissed about all the being Bruce Wayne's "Ward"

Edited, Fri Jun 2 19:08:27 2006 by DVEight


You're fUcking kidding me. He took the brunt of one of the Joker's bombs, and the bomb also took out a warehouse. He died. They buried him :P Bringing him back from that (as well as being killed off by the readers, no less) is just crazy.

Please tell me we're talking about a different multiverse or something.

Edited, Sat Jun 3 11:00:54 2006 by Althrun
#28 Jun 03 2006 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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There have always been rumors of homosexuality in Batman comics. Batman and Robin were rumored to be more than a team...


Naw they could never be a couple.
www.superdickery.com/seduction/5.html
www.superdickery.com/seduction/1.html






But what is supes going to do.
www.superdickery.com/seduction/13.html

Weird the links arnt working, stupid filter, it is only the word dick, just copy and paste the links and they should work.




Edited, Sat Jun 3 12:27:50 2006 by dirges
#29 Jun 03 2006 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Ellen? No! Rosie O'Donnell in leathr tights! She'd be a Super-Sized Hero!

All crime would end!
#30 Jun 03 2006 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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You're ******* kidding me. He took the brunt of one of the Joker's bombs, and the bomb also took out a warehouse. He died. They buried him :P Bringing him back from that (as well as being killed off by the readers, no less) is just crazy.


He did die, but when Superboy-Prime, pounding against the barrier wall of the dimension in which he is trapped, alters reality. A criminal whom Batman and Robin had defeated years earlier recognizes the teen and informs Talia al Ghul. Talia places Jason in a life-rejuvenating Lazarus Pit. Discovering that Batman had not avenged his death. Feeling betrayed, he trains in order to take on his former mentor.
#31 Jun 04 2006 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
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He did die, but when Superboy-Prime, pounding against the barrier wall of the dimension in which he is trapped, alters reality. A criminal whom Batman and Robin had defeated years earlier recognizes the teen and informs Talia al Ghul. Talia places Jason in a life-rejuvenating Lazarus Pit. Discovering that Batman had not avenged his death. Feeling betrayed, he trains in order to take on his former mentor.


Kudos, for not only were you accurate with Psylocke's history, you actually understand DC comics continuity.

DC should send you some kind of prize...

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..knee-high red boots with spiked heels, and a form-fitting black outfit...


That'd work!

For me
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#32 Jun 04 2006 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Kudos, for not only were you accurate with Psylocke's history, you actually understand DC comics continuity.

DC should send you some kind of prize...


I actually had to look it up, DC history is way harder to keep track of than Marvel. DC has way to many characters with the same hero name, but are different characters and all those Infinite Crisis series with the alternate DC universes. Marvel has the One univese with a couple off-shoot parellel time dimensions and the Ulitmate universe which I have to admit, I really enjoy reading.
#33 Jun 04 2006 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
Yup, I'm more of a Marvel man myself. I will pick up the occasional DC book. However, between the continuity and the unrelatable charachters, I tend to stay away for the most part.

I mean, it took DC 60 odd years to make Superman relatable. And they couldn't even do it in comics, it took the WB network...

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#34 Jun 04 2006 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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I mean, it took DC 60 odd years to make Superman relatable. And they couldn't even do it in comics, it took the WB network...


I actually quite enjoying Loeb's Superman/Batman books, and I always love Hellblazer, but thats pretty much all I read of DC at the moment. Identity Crisis by meltzer was a brillant read though.
#35 Jun 04 2006 at 10:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mistress DVEight wrote:
He did die, but when Superboy-Prime, pounding against the barrier wall of the dimension in which he is trapped, alters reality. A criminal whom Batman and Robin had defeated years earlier recognizes the teen and informs Talia al Ghul. Talia places Jason in a life-rejuvenating Lazarus Pit. Discovering that Batman had not avenged his death. Feeling betrayed, he trains in order to take on his former mentor.
I don't read comics but I do occassionally read threads about comics on another forum (when they come up). Crap like the above is exactly why I never bothered -- too much trans-dimensional, alternate-reality, Earth Prime, etc. crap. I imagine they do it either to keep a popular franchise character in operation or because each story-writer wants his hand at being Character_XYZ but it always struck me as just stupid. It's the same crap people used to mock the soap operas of the 70's & 80's about: "Dakota was killed when that secret military jet fighter blew up the ruins her and Montana were exploring but then Dr. Montango transplanted Dakota's brain with that of her long lost sister Ilsa who was recently discovered travelling with a band of vampiric gypsies in Eastern Europe but who didn't realize that Ilsa was evil and now Dakota is going on a murderous rampage throughout Oak Valley..."

Well, except that you didn't have to pay money to watch the soap operas and they didn't broadcast only once a month.
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#36 Jun 04 2006 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
Joph, pick up any of the following.

Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, Ultimate Fantastic Four, or The Ultimates.

You especially, would really love The Ultimates. Great art, great writing, and LOTS of politics. Oh, and their continuity started at issue 1.

Astonishing X-Men is also a great read, but it's within the "main" marvel universe, so you've got 40 odd years of X-Men stories as backdrop for it. Written by Joss (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Serenity) Whedon.

If you like DC, you could try All Star Batman and Robin. I think it's kinda early to say its great at 3 issues. However, it's written by Frank Miller with art by Jim Lee. Both comics legends in their own rights.

And then there's Planetary. It's amazing.

DV8, you pick up Ex Machina and/or Y the Last Man?


Edited, Sun Jun 4 11:28:28 2006 by Omegavegeta
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#37 Jun 04 2006 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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DV8, you pick up Ex Machina and/or Y the Last Man?


I lovin Ex Machina and Y the last man is next on my list to pick up, I'm sad that Planetary is almost ended. I only pick up TPB's as I can never keep track of multiple story lines in multiple books. I really like how there coming in HC now as they look nice on my book selves and look more like books than comics.
#38 Jun 04 2006 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
Heh, apperently we need our own comic book forum. I for one, feel dirty everytime I venture into OOT and we've hogged the asylum this sunday morning with our little geek athon.

Y The Last Man has been the book that I've used to get a couple girls into comics who wouldn't dream of picking them up otherwise. It's a good book, you'll like it.

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#39 Jun 04 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
You could always join the comic book geeks here.
#40 Jun 05 2006 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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It's the same crap people used to mock the soap operas of the 70's & 80's about: "Dakota was killed when that secret military jet fighter blew up the ruins her and Montana were exploring but then Dr. Montango transplanted Dakota's brain with that of her long lost sister Ilsa who was recently discovered travelling with a band of vampiric gypsies in Eastern Europe but who didn't realize that Ilsa was evil and now Dakota is going on a murderous rampage throughout Oak Valley..."


Comic books are basically soap operas for boys. There's alot of similiarities.

Will Batman survive the blast?! Stay tuned for the next issue.

Will Rhonda tell Bill she loves him?! Stay tuned for the next episode.
#41 Jun 05 2006 at 1:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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coffeehamlet wrote:
Comic books are basically soap operas for boys. There's alot of similiarities.
Not arguing that. Just saying that that's why I don't read them.
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#42 Jun 05 2006 at 1:37 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
coffeehamlet wrote:
Comic books are basically soap operas for boys. There's alot of similiarities.
Not arguing that. Just saying that that's why I don't read them.


Likewise. Somehow the whole comics/superheros thing never caught my attention as a kid. I think it's one of those things where if you didn't have the experience with it as a kid, you have trouble getting into it as an adult. Y'know, like skiing.

I guess people who grew up with the comics are fascinated by the different characters, storylines, and relationships. To me though, they always come off as silly, and kind of juvenile. That feeling really doesn't have a whole lot substantiating it, other than the goofy outfits and the intended audience of saturday morning cartoons. I suspect that there are comics that get a more mature treatment, of course. I did like the Batman Begins movie for that reason.
#43 Jun 05 2006 at 1:55 AM Rating: Good
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I suspect that there are comics that get a more mature treatment, of course.


Manga is normally more matured themed (as is true anime, not the butchered sh[blue][/blue]it we normally get here in the states), not to mention all the hentai manga out there... Of course, Japanese Comics (Manga) and American are totally different.

As for the American comics, I know there are a few more matured temed ones out there, I remember seeing on Attack of the Show awhile back one of those "Fresh Ink" things and the person brough some like M rated comic or something. However, I agree that a lot of comics are basically soaps for boys.
#44 Jun 05 2006 at 2:35 AM Rating: Good
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Tomec the Wise wrote:
Eske wrote:
I suspect that there are comics that get a more mature treatment, of course.


Manga is normally more matured themed (as is true anime, not the butchered **** we normally get here in the states), not to mention all the hentai manga out there... Of course, Japanese Comics (Manga) and American are totally different.


Not quite what I meant by "mature"...
#45 Jun 05 2006 at 2:43 AM Rating: Good
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Eske wrote:
Tomec the Wise wrote:
Eske wrote:
I suspect that there are comics that get a more mature treatment, of course.


Manga is normally more matured themed (as is true anime, not the butchered **** we normally get here in the states), not to mention all the hentai manga out there... Of course, Japanese Comics (Manga) and American are totally different.


Not quite what I meant by "mature"...


Well I wasn't refering to just "adult" manga, but in general also.

For example, ever heard of something called Elfen Lied? It is a bit more ecchi then "mature" by what you are talking about, however it is close. All in all though, anyone who doesn't think anime/manga is mature needs to gain a new outlook, because let me tell you lots of anime that is out there isn't "kiddy" at all. However, whether anime is "kiddy" or mature would probably be better discussed in another thread.

Just a quick thinking off the top of my head I can name quite a few anime series/manga that are most certainly aimed at mid to late teens. (w/o being hentai)
#46 Jun 05 2006 at 3:19 AM Rating: Good
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Comic books are basically soap operas for boys. There's alot of similiarities.

Will Batman survive the blast?! Stay tuned for the next issue.

Will Rhonda tell Bill she loves him?! Stay tuned for the next episode.


There is diffenitly a soap opera quality to them, but i loved comics as a child for the way they made my imagination soar. I remember thinking as a child how if i was batgirl i could use my gadgets against my brothers, or talk to or become like the animals behind are house like animalman. when on the long car trips i swing on webs from light pole to telephone pole. My first real understanding of politics was because of Watchman and the later V for Vendetta. Maybe growing up reading about mutant rights and Xaviers dream, has made me a less bigoted person. I know for a fact that i started writing because of reading the funny books.
#47 Jun 05 2006 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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when on the long car trips i swing on webs from light pole to telephone pole


Heh. You too?
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#48 Jun 05 2006 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
Tomec the Wise wrote:

For example, ever heard of something called Elfen Lied? It is a bit more ecchi then "mature" by what you are talking about, however it is close. All in all though, anyone who doesn't think anime/manga is mature needs to gain a new outlook, because let me tell you lots of anime that is out there isn't "kiddy" at all. However, whether anime is "kiddy" or mature would probably be better discussed in another thread.

Just a quick thinking off the top of my head I can name quite a few anime series/manga that are most certainly aimed at mid to late teens. (w/o being hentai)




Am I also one of the few who sees anime/manga as a medium instead of a genre?

I mean, it's so diverse that everything shouldn't be bunched into the same naming as haphazardly as some people seem to think it is. Yes, anime is animated tv, so there's that similarity, but saying that Pokemon(kid show) and Blue Gender(graphic violence in a post-apocalyptic world involving mecha and bug/alien-monster things) are of the same genre would be like saying that Sesame Street and 24 are of the same genre.

Maybe it's just semantics, but it's that same lack of insight that causes ignorance, and ignorance in that fashion can be deadly for such arts. I'm still baffled about when the other day, some co-workers with kids were complaining about things like Family Guy, Futurama, Cowboy Bebop (Adult Swim stuff) because they couldn't for the life of them figure why people were making such "cartoons" (gag) as the above, when they are totally inappropriate for children. Never crossed their minds that they weren't designed for children, and when I stated that concept, they looked at me like I had horns and a tail.

/sigh


I hate people.
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