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Ok. Ignoring monx, cause... ow! And I think it'll be more fun to play "nobby numbers!"(tm).



Did you just say that one in every 30 UK subjects is employed in the health care field? I'm just curious, because you're reporting costs in adjusted dollar values, but isn't this a significant portion of your total labor pool? I'm pretty sure that if 3.3% of all US citizens worked in health care, we'd have a pretty spiffy system too, but then we'd lose the productivity and growth to our economy that those jobs represent now.



Is that per capita of all the citizens in the country? Or per capita for all patients? Cause those are different things. I'm pretty sure it's per patient, but your second coment about how it covers 100% of the people implies a comparison to the total number of citizens and presents a false impression of the efficiency of the operation.



Yeah. But we've got 240M more total people, so we're still ahead of you on that score (see. I can play "nobby numbers!"(tm) too!).


For the record, I'm not saying that the UK health care system isn't good. I am saying that the cost analysis you give isn't totaly accurate. You can't measure just the dollar cost. You also have to measure the growth cost to the economy for committing that much of your resources to the system. Something that works for 60M people might not work nearly so well for 300M. Doubly so since the US economy is largely built on the assumption of constant expansion and growth of industry, so the relative opportunity cost for us is higher. Maybe in the UK, those people would be sitting around fiddling their thumbs doing nothing if they weren't employed in health care, but here in the US, the extra people you'd need would directly subtract from jobs already being done. Higher cost, but not something easy to directly measure.

So you want to ignore the only friend you have for *****-foot reasons? You want to interject after pages of my personal crusade? Dude, what's your time zone? There was a STFU period upon the non-defected left for a reason, fool. But, yeah, suddelny, you're going to chime make sense of it ...

You already backed down totally and completlely when it comes to definitions of rights, and for good reason. If you're gonna piggyback, don't present such weak wannabee positions ... {I'm coming for your conservative dumb a$$ after I first destroy the American Left politically, philosophically, and ethically ... eh, sorry, something about the displacement and evolving of the American 2party system, cycles and name and philosphical platform changes}.

The World Cup doesn't start for a week yet, no reason to pull the goalie this earlie bro. pfft, well,

Fine. I guess I'm not the only one then that drove by the Consule de General de Mexico (bad guy/chick ratio--around the block), unless you want guys making your bed ...



You've already been supplanted, kthxbye. WTF are you chiming in, about, or what, for? Really, I don't need any help displaying my trophy <silence>, especially if the reasons for it are going to float right over your head. Any U.K. number is brought about by strict RATIONING, pure and simple dumb 'F-K. That's why the costs of "free" health care aren't {Infinity}, in every actual case and every possible conceivable case. Capiche?

I'm pretty sure you're not that "pretty", middle aged man. Slow the 'F down and *pay attention* to the lessons economicus. "Our" economy, wtf are you talking about? Do you even know the difference betweeen free trade and another smuggled latino chocha?

Hah, Smash was despearate for a comment opening. <yawn> C.D.C. website, man, it's serious now.



Then you ain't saying jack. Reread before you waste repetitive space. Smash is smart enough to know that Patents grant bonus *oppressed* short term profits at the expense of consumers, but that's it. And 'F after all is said and done, his @$$ is going to sign my Constitutional Amendment banning copyright and patent, just as is Joph, Flea, and all the other wannabee sociazlist punkz on this {forum=#2 for *****}.

Basic Econ 101. Fuchan P.M. me for it. There's a reason nobody else but you had something to say, and 33.3% has *nothing* to do with it.

There's a reason the "best and brightest" are scared as hell of me. It's because I don't make wrong simpleton analogies and references, so get that crap the hell out of my way, until you learn basic economics /.\ Butt the 'F off my threads until you garner a modicum of knowledge.

/Sit and Observe.

Don't fret, his monk forum posts aren't credible either.

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It's hard to compare Healthcare costs like-for-like between UK and USA, and there's an industry out there trying to do it.

The fact is that if you divide the cost of healthcare by Population, it costs less per capita in UK than USA and most European countries.

Your argument about whether it's divided by population or patients is a classic shot in the big toe.

In the UK, the figure is the same. All the UK's population have access to high quality healthcare funded through general taxation without the need to pay bills or insurance premia.

According to wiki, in 2004, 45.8 million Americans (15%) had no healthcare cover.

That's why we see a poor bastage posting on the forum about self-treating an infected toenail that would have been treated (diagnosis, surgery, medication etc.) by now without worrying how to find the money.

So in short, you're bragging about throwing money at a healthcare system that fails its most needy citizens.

Sux to be you.

Yeah, but Mox says that you can get all of your education over the internet anyway. So now the test is to see if Sassy's toe falls off when he follows our advice!

I see this fact thrown around a lot in these arguments. There is an assumption or implication that all these millions of Americans are being denied healthcare because the poor bastages can't afford it. But it's not that simple.

The National Center for Policy Analysis has a decent overview of some of the myths regarding uninsured Americans. I cut a lot of it out, but here's the essense of it: