Take this to heart the next time you log into your MMORPG (wFollow

Intelligent people also don't use tired, overused "cute" expressions like the whole cheese and whine thing. FYI.

And I wasn't trying to educate anyone by calling a GM. I was calling a GM because those two players clearly broke the City of Heroes TOS rule about player harassment. My *post* was trying to educate people. It was clear, well-spoken, and got the point across. It was intended to prompt discussion and thought, and to incourage people to consider how words can be taken. You clearly missed the point, but I can't say I'm especially surprised. And for someone who claims to be sympathetic towards gays, you certainly worked very hard to derail this topic. Obviously your stance against discrimination is less important to you than your need to flame and troll. I see your priorities are straight. You have taken to attacking me in threads that have nothing at all to do with you, solely for the sake of attacking an Asylumite. You hate this board and its regular posters so much that you go out of your way to prove it. That's really, really pathetic.

At least I know it's easy to get your limited intellect worked up.

Meh dont mind her.. she'd still suc[/Aliceblue]k your c[Aliceblue]ock for $1 if you'd let her. She's just upset that we havnt sent a fresh batch of underage boys for her to send her porno pics to. You know she likes them young, cause you know she gets so horney .. err.. lonely while her husband is over seas playing bullet catcher.

Edited, Tue May 30 04:01:40 2006 by Katie

So how's your flat faced friend doing? Is she still your #1 *** licker?

Yeah, I saw in =6969 where she'd tried to ********* the horny teenagers by talking about ************* What's this about porno pics? I must've missed it.

She posted a picture of her breasts on Alla? Isn't linking **** a ban-worthy offense? Wow, the admins must not be out to get her the way she says they are if they let that slip.

Since when have I ever "frequented" the OOT with Katie? I almost never go there, I didn't even know the Asylumites posted there until recently. Again, your delusions seem to be taking control of you. Might be time to up the dose, if you know what I mean.

I wasn't the one being insulted. As I said before, if it HAD been me, I would've just reported the event to a GM and went on my merry way. I've never been one to care much what other people think or have to say about me. But it was another player who was the subject of the attack, and that DOES make me angry.

So some deliquents poked fun at a kid. I'm not one to tell people to toughen up, but this hardly seems like a noteworthy incident.

At this moment I think you're just enjoying pushing Niobia around. How entertaining can that be really? Only small fries go after small fires.

I think I might be a little more agitated, but that's only because I've been socially conditioned to think race is a more touchy subject than homosexuality. I still wouldn't have cared much.

Most modern day countries are highly indvidualistic. You're not part of a group, you're you. And going to a highly diverse school I quickly learned that diversity means very little. My muslims friends get different days off than my JEwish firends, that's about the only thing I see of any importance.

I dont' want to sound like some zealous yet oh so ignorant social progressionist saying that "our differences don't matter, we're a melting pot, etc." so please remove that impression which I've likely given you from your head. The differences are arbitrary and really do not count. They're replaceable differences. If a culture didn't worship this god they'd worship another. The only differences that matter are the irreplaceable ones.

Did I overuse the word "different" enough? My vocab ist no so gud.

Edited, Tue May 30 04:23:49 2006 by Allegory

I see your point, and in many ways I agree. But I also try to avoid being a hypocrite, and I'm very adverse to people being treated unfairly for factors outside of their control. And unfortunately, I see it all the time. I have a hispanic friend who gets turned down for office jobs on a regular basis even though he's more than qualified, and I think a large part of that is the idea that hispanics aren't as intelligent as caucasians. And I have a friend who is half black and half white, and both races tend to look down on him. Whites tend to see him as a 20something black man and avoid him, and blacks see him as a "traitor" who uses his white side to get ahead in life.

I know that people will ALWAYS harbor bigoted thoughts about one group or another, it's one of the flaws in mankind. But by making it "socially unacceptable" to act on those thoughts, the atmosphere does change. I've seen it in my own life, being a gay Southerner. Before Ellen and Will & Grace and Brokeback Mountain made homosexuality visible to everyone, people could get away with saying or doing pretty much whatever they wanted to. But now that homophobia has begun to be considered unacceptable by society, people don't act on their thoughts for fear of being branded a bigot. So while they may still hate me, they are less likely to show it. And that makes life much easier for me and other gay people.

My point is that, while I know I'm never going to make everyone in the world accept me, I CAN help make it unacceptable for them to act out against me. And that's what I try to do, even if the situation doesn't apply to me. Racism (I'm white), sexism (I'm male), and ageism (I'm 27) don't affect me, but I still speak out against them at every opportunity. It's BECAUSE I know how being the subject of bigotry feels that I try to keep anyone else from having to experience it.

EDIT: I'm here. It was just a long post, plus I had to swap discs (I'm reinstalling WoW to see if that fixes my problem).

Edited, Tue May 30 04:43:58 2006 by Saboruto

Oh, I fully understand and accept that. But I CAN help make such behaviour socially difficult. If people learn to look down on bigotry as "uncouth", people will be less likely to act out for fear of looking like... well, bigots. I'm not concerned with changing people's minds, only their behaviour. I don't care if people dislike me for being gay, I just don't want them trying to harm me for it. They're entitled to their private feelings, but they're not entitled to attack me. That was the only point of this thread, to make bigotry "socially undesirable" in MMOs. If I can help create an atmosphere where people won't tolerate "hate crimes" in their MMOs, I'm satisfied.

And with that, I think I'm headed to bed. WoW is being utterly stupid, it's trying to update to the latest patch but every time it does it errors out. I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to call Blizzard tech support to find out what's wrong with my computer now. As much as the internet is the most awesome thing ever invented, there are times when I DEEPLY hate my computer. Today is one of those times. So far I've had to reinstall Windows twice, hunt down all my drivers, and fight with WoW. If anything else goes wrong, I'm throwing the bloody thing through the window. -_-