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You emo kid.

Smash, how was Toronto this weekend?

Smash, how was Toronto this weekend?

I hear it was ok, but I didn't go :)

I'm really not an *** that would't have stopped to have a beer with you, as the Boston people can attest.

I thought perhaps you flew. It was cold and ****** here anyway, so you didn't miss much! We'll call it a rain-cheque.

Y'know, if this were another organization thinking of making such a policy, the ACLU would be the ones suing them.

Wonder if they can sue themselves...

Well, in fairness they're asking people to watch what they say, not saying they'll be terminated if they criticize the organization.

Still pretty funny, though.

I tried to find information regarding freedom of speech and criticizing your employer, but it's hard to google for.

The closest I found was this, although it applies to Canada only:

Not what I meant. That particular part of your post made me recall the Ice-T song. Of course I only recalled the hook (Freedom of Speech, Just watch what you say), so I went off in search of the entire lyrics. When I read through them, however, I couldn't help but look at them askance as a slippery slope argument, á la MonxDotty. Made me giggle, is all.

Side point, but I have to confess I mostly don't listen to the lyrics in rap and hip-hop music. I should probably see more of them written out like that.

The ACLU is an essential organizationin thsi time and place. While I do not agree with every action taken by the ACLU (not even close), I do agree with necessity of taking actions to vigorously defend the rights of the individuals in this country.

I'm actually a card carrying member. That has nothing to do with how I vote or where I stand on many issues. I belong because I believe the ACLU needs to exist and it needs to be active for our society to flourish. They probably only like me because I keep sending money.

While I realize that you have no idea what the ACLU actually does, they really aren't.

Right nothing says left win like litterally defending *****.

Given that the ***** were a left wing organization, I'm not seeing a contradiction here.

I'm sure there's probably at least one other person in the world stupid enough to believe that, but I'm guessing they probably didn't read this post.

Thanks for reminding me how utterly oblivious you are, it'll save me a lot of time replying that should have been spent chucking.

Ah. Gotta love revisonist history.

Let's see. The National Socialist Workers Party. Rose to power largely by appealing to the working class and poor. 10 out of 25 official bullet points of Hitler's German National Socialist Agenda are specifically pro-labor in fact. But there's nothing left wing here...


You are proceeding on the assuption that left wing is automatically non-authoritarian, so any authoritarian regime can't be left wing. I submit that your assumption is wrong. Communist Russia was clearly both left wing and authoritarian. Communist China was and is also clearly both left wing and authoritarian. I would actually argue that pretty much all left wing political movements from the 20th century on are inherently authoritarian. Or at least the ones that succeed are, based largely on the fact that left wing movements require using the power of the nation to enforce their agenda and that always requires a strongly authoritarian regime to pull off. Not that this fact is usually given openly to the masses who support the movement though.


Your argument is based, not on fact, but on what you want to believe. You are a Liberal. In fact, you're a professed Social Liberalist. This places you firmly in the left wing politically. You don't want to admit that you share that wing with people like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong, so you argue that they aren't really left wing after all. And that's revionism to the extreme...