FWIW - 1st and only reference to baseball I've seen on UK news.
They should just level the playing field and make steroids compulsory like in Canadian Athletics.
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- Interesting article on Barry Bonds' home run record chase
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"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
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fenderputy The Shady wrote:
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These are professional baseball players, they've learned to tune it out.
Darkenbudddy, Eater of Souls wrote:
Make that 4, since I don't think he took steroids. They police that stuff so much they'd have to develop something new every week. They just can't do that.
Are you serious?
Baseball didn't even test for steroids until 2003.
They basically had no punitive policy until 2005.
And even with the new "3 strikes and you're banned for life" policy, they STILL only do urine tests, not blood tests. Only a blood test can detect HGH - Human Growth Hormone.
The problem is the focus on Bonds, not steroids. It's mindbogglingly naive to think that in a profession where litterally tens of millions are at stake, that nearly everyone didn't do anything they could to be better than others.
Bonds is the greatest regular season player in history, period. Too bad he chokes in the playoffs.
Bonds is the greatest regular season player in history, period. Too bad he chokes in the playoffs.
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Smasharoo wrote:
The problem is the focus on Bonds, not steroids. It's mindbogglingly naive to think that in a profession where litterally tens of millions are at stake, that nearly everyone didn't do anything they could to be better than others.
Bonds is the greatest regular season player in history, period. Too bad he chokes in the playoffs.
Bonds is the greatest regular season player in history, period. Too bad he chokes in the playoffs.
Not going to totally refute that (the focus is on Bonds for obvious reasons). There are a few negative consequences of steroid use which could turn players away from it, though. Frequent and more severe injuries are probably the most significant as far as immediate game-related ones are concerned. Giambi and McGwire fell victim to those.
Edited, Tue May 23 17:12:19 2006 by Eske
Giambi and McGwire fell victim to those.
While Bob the healthy morally upstanding utility infielder collected his $40,000 a year playing for the Toledo Mudhens. He's got his integrity though!
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"They should just level the playing field and make steroids compulsory like in Canadian Athletics." Nobby
That is some funny s#%$. And true.
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:27 2006 by yenwangweh
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:41 2006 by yenwangweh
That is some funny s#%$. And true.
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:27 2006 by yenwangweh
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:41 2006 by yenwangweh
The Honorable yenwangweh wrote:
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:27 2006 by yenwangweh
Edited, Tue May 23 17:21:41 2006 by yenwangweh
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Hehe, no, just a slow connection at the moment. Hit the edit button twice, after nothing happened the first time. 
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While steroids won't give you a good swing, they'll help a good hitter pack their punch. The absurdity of McGwire's and Bond's record-setting seasons are good enough indication of that.
If their seasons were so absurd, I guess the fact that Albert Pujols is on pace to break 80 this season is attributable to something other than skill too.
Since many pitchers will be on roids too, it is still an A+ achievement. Rounders is still a girlie game though.
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Rounders is still a girlie game though.
Better a manly sport like Croquet, eh?
Cricket man! Which reminds me, I will be at the Engalnd vs. Sri Lanka test this weekend getting totally lashed up with the lads.Yay!
Patrician wrote:
Cricket man! Which reminds me, I will be at the Engalnd vs. Sri Lanka test this weekend getting totally lashed up with the lads.Yay!
It's so much nicer to bum drinks of semi-strangers than random passers-by?
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Saturday, and not sure which stand - I can find out. However, be warned. I am very careful to not be seen in public with geeks from gaming websites unless I have covered my tracks well, and am in disguise...
Bonds* the greatest regular season player ever? Not hardly. Especially when you factor in all the pharmas he took. The article I referenced notes that without a doubt he is a tremendously talented player, one who was guaranteed a Cooperstown berth, but the best of all time, sans post season?
Not even close.
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Not even close.
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Bonds* the greatest regular season player ever? Not hardly. Especially when you factor in all the pharmas he took. The article I referenced notes that without a doubt he is a tremendously talented player, one who was guaranteed a Cooperstown berth, but the best of all time, sans post season?
Not even close.
Don't be silly. If you take away 200 home runs he's still probably the best regular season player ever. Belive me, that's not something I say haphazardly either. I did sleep with a picture of Ted Williams over my bed for about 12 years.
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I'm not a baseball fan, but i'm pretty certain they had SOME kind of test for steroids before 2003. If not, then im pretty shocked actually.
And as far as Bonds record? I say prove it before all these rumors amd scientists predict. The people that do this are basically the no talent morons who can't even hit a baseball.
And as far as Bonds record? I say prove it before all these rumors amd scientists predict. The people that do this are basically the no talent morons who can't even hit a baseball.
Willie Mays was a better regular season player. Mantle, pre-sprinkler head incident, was a better regular season player. I'd even consider a few more soley for one reason ... defense. Bonds has never been a 5 tool player. He only survived in the outfield for one reason, his speed. He's been lacking speed for years now and is a downright liability in the outfield.
Am I the only one that thinks Bonds was a better player before the roids? Back then he could get to balls in the outfield, win games on the bases, and occasionally win with the longball. I might have considered him one of the great players then, but not now. All he can do is hit, and this year he can't even do that.
Am I the only one that thinks Bonds was a better player before the roids? Back then he could get to balls in the outfield, win games on the bases, and occasionally win with the longball. I might have considered him one of the great players then, but not now. All he can do is hit, and this year he can't even do that.
Teddy was precisely the first person I thought of when I wrote that post-- loose strands of veins and spinal nerves waving about gently, all the while his head rising and falling in a large vat of viscous green goo, much like a industrial sized lava lamp.
/shakes his head and rubs his fists in his eyes
Whoa. That was eerily like a JFK scene. I guess in the Splinter's case it'd be...
...his eyes frozen open, frost glazing his pupils, making him stare sightlessly at the stainless steel prison wall, his blue lips screaming soundlessly in endless agony at the cryogenic horror his child had condemned him to...
Yeah, that Teddy Williams.
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/shakes his head and rubs his fists in his eyes
Whoa. That was eerily like a JFK scene. I guess in the Splinter's case it'd be...
...his eyes frozen open, frost glazing his pupils, making him stare sightlessly at the stainless steel prison wall, his blue lips screaming soundlessly in endless agony at the cryogenic horror his child had condemned him to...
Yeah, that Teddy Williams.
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I'm not a baseball fan, but i'm pretty certain they had SOME kind of test for steroids before 2003. If not, then im pretty shocked actually.
Be shocked then.
As posted above
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Baseball didn't even test for steroids until 2003.
They basically had no punitive policy until 2005.
And even with the new "3 strikes and you're banned for life" policy, they STILL only do urine tests, not blood tests. Only a blood test can detect HGH - Human Growth Hormone.
They basically had no punitive policy until 2005.
And even with the new "3 strikes and you're banned for life" policy, they STILL only do urine tests, not blood tests. Only a blood test can detect HGH - Human Growth Hormone.
Meaning although Baseball tests for steroids they still don't test for the most used performance enhancer out there.
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
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While steroids won't give you a good swing, they'll help a good hitter pack their punch. The absurdity of McGwire's and Bond's record-setting seasons are good enough indication of that.
If their seasons were so absurd, I guess the fact that Albert Pujols is on pace to break 80 this season is attributable to something other than skill too.
Did Pujols break 80? Not yet? Then that's a moot point.
But I was referring more referring to the difference between McGwire and Bonds in the 90's, and the present day. They used to be good home run hitters, sure. But their sudden jump, especially Bonds (who should have been getting worse as he aged) into the record setting numbers is more than a little suspect.
Man, I remember when they used to be skinny little guys. McGwire's bicep is larger than my torso now. Same for Bond's giant head.
Darkenbudddy, Eater of Souls wrote:
I'm not a baseball fan, but i'm pretty certain they had SOME kind of test for steroids before 2003. If not, then im pretty shocked actually.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/04/sports/baseball/04bonds.html?ex=1259902800&en=f6ffa9684edeeb8e&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
Major League Baseball did not test for steroids before 2003 and did not penalize for positive tests before last season.
Edit: They tested for other illegal drugs, however. Cocaine, etc.
Edited, Wed May 24 15:51:24 2006 by trickybeck
Hell, the NFL has been testing for 'roids since the 80s and those guys still drop dead regularly during practice.
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