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#1 May 18 2006 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
Man lives in house undetected for two years...has "relationship" with 13 year old.

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Man admits to sex with girl, 13

For nearly two years, 37-year-old man lived secretly in her family's Mount Clemens home.

Edward L. Cardenas / The Detroit News
MOUNT CLEMENS -- A 37-year-old man who lived secretly in the home of a teenage girl with whom he had a relationship pleaded guilty Wednesday to two counts of criminal sexual conduct.

Wayne Koch admitted to having a sexual relationship with the girl for nearly two years, starting in 2003 when she was 13.

Initially, Koch lived nearby with his mother; last year she moved out of her St. Clair Shores home and forced him to find a place to live.

He first moved into the garage of the girl's home, without her father's knowledge. Once the cold weather set in, he moved inside the teenager's house and would hide under her bed while the teen's father was home.

"He befriended this little girl and preyed on her youth," said Suzanne Faunce, chief of the Macomb County Prosecutor's Office sex crimes unit. "He would stay in the house and move around when (the father) was not in the house."

The girl, who is not being named because of her age, eventually told her aunt what was going on after she said Koch threatened her with a gun if she didn't continue the relationship.

"Fortunately he is not going to put the girl through a trial," Faunce said.

Koch pleaded guilty to two counts of third degree criminal sexual conduct with a person 13-15 years old, assault with a dangerous weapon and felony firearm before Macomb Circuit Judge James Biernat Sr.

He also admitted to brandishing the gun when the girl wanted to end the relationship.

"I threatened her with a gun," Koch said. "I didn't aim it at her."

Questioned by Biernat about whether he understood the charges, Koch said yes and said that psychiatric medication was helping him. He said he was taking nine prescription pills a day, including the antidepressant Zoloft.

Koch was arrested on Jan. 2 by police following the tip called in by the girl's aunt.

When police searched the home, they found Koch hiding under the bed with the teen's father's Luger handgun.

Faunce said the victim's father has lost custody. The girl is in foster care.

John Belanger, Koch's attorney, did not return a call for comment.

Koch will be sentenced June 27, and faces up to 17 years in prison.


Poor parenting or just REALLY oblivious?
#2 May 18 2006 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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How in the world could that girl's father not notice another person living in his house for 2 years?? No one can hide that well. And wouldn't this man had to have taken food, used the bathroom, etc. so that the father would notice things missing or moved around?
#3 May 18 2006 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:


Poor parenting or just REALLY oblivious?


And the third option being that Koch is super stealthy ninja man material.
#4 May 18 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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One would think, but then, thinking back...my parent's never came into my room and you'd see anyone driving in to my driveway in plenty of time to get back upstairs or whatever. Still, it's pretty crazy.

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#5 May 18 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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The father must have been gone an awful lot.

My parents never went anywhere, except to work. And my mother would occasionally just burst into my room (I wasn't allowed to lock my door). Anyone hiding at my house would have spent almost all their time under the bed or in the closet. What fun!
#6 May 18 2006 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe he liked being in the closet?
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#7 May 18 2006 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
That article disturbs me on so many levels. I find it virtually impossible to believe the father had no clue. A couple of weeks, I can understand. Two years!? Did he think his daughter was leaving the toilet seat up?
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#8 May 18 2006 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:


Poor parenting or just REALLY oblivious?


And the third option being that Koch is super stealthy ninja man material.


The term used on fark was Pedo-Ninja


#9 May 18 2006 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Faunce said the victim's father has lost custody. The girl is in foster care.



Well, that's good at least. Any dad who watches out for his girl that well certainly doesn't deserve custody.
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#10 May 18 2006 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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No one can hide that well. And wouldn't this man had to have taken food, used the bathroom, etc. so that the father would notice things missing or moved around?
Like perhaps...a hand gun?
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When police searched the home, they found Koch hiding under the bed with the teen's father's Luger handgun.
How, really - can you own a gun licensed to your name and not notice when it goes missing. That would be one of those nearly unconscious habits I would develop everyday - to just make sure the box was still locked and felt the same, and I would probably check that it was in the box at least once a week.

He lost custody but really, now that we've f'ucked up the whole "survival of the fitest" we really need to neuter the morons like this father.
#11 May 18 2006 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby's standard response #4 wrote:
Aww. C'mon. We've all done it.

Hypocrites

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#12 May 18 2006 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:


Poor parenting or just REALLY oblivious?


And the third option being that Koch is super stealthy ninja man material.


The term used on fark was Pedo-Ninja


Koch could also be the holder of the "Ring of Power".

Edited, Thu May 18 17:23:00 2006 by fenderputy
#13 May 18 2006 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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This reminds me of a movie back in the 70s. I can't remember the name of it, but it was about this "mentally challenged" (oh how PC of me!) guy that lived with his mother. He accidently killed a young girl, so the mother hid him in a back room that they pretty much sealed off with a fake wall so that he wouldn't be found. Well, the mother died, another family moved in and he took a liking to one of the young daughters. He would watch her through peepholes he had made through out the house.

Very creepy. Wish I could remember the name of it.
#14 May 19 2006 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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This reminds me of a movie back in the 70s. I can't remember the name of it, but it was about this "mentally challenged" (oh how PC of me!) guy that lived with his mother. He accidently killed a young girl, so the mother hid him in a back room that they pretty much sealed off with a fake wall so that he wouldn't be found. Well, the mother died, another family moved in and he took a liking to one of the young daughters. He would watch her through peepholes he had made through out the house.

Very creepy. Wish I could remember the name of it.


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#15 May 19 2006 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
I'm trying to figure out how the father didn't notice the extra toothbrush and razor in the bathroom...

Also where the hell did the pedo-ninja hide his clothes?




Edit: Pedo's aren't aloud on Alla. =(

Edited, Fri May 19 09:13:10 2006 by Subrosia
#16 May 19 2006 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Soracloud, King of Bards wrote:
GamingMaven wrote:
This reminds me of a movie back in the 70s. I can't remember the name of it, but it was about this "mentally challenged" (oh how PC of me!) guy that lived with his mother. He accidently killed a young girl, so the mother hid him in a back room that they pretty much sealed off with a fake wall so that he wouldn't be found. Well, the mother died, another family moved in and he took a liking to one of the young daughters. He would watch her through peepholes he had made through out the house.

Very creepy. Wish I could remember the name of it.


Booya! Bad Ronald


That's it! Man, that was one weird movie.
#17 May 20 2006 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
This **** makes me sick. I wanna find this guy and kick the **** out of him
#18 May 20 2006 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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...or that his toothbrush was wet before he used it...
#19 May 20 2006 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
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AngryUndead wrote:
...or that his toothbrush was wet before he used it...
uh?
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#20 May 20 2006 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm trying to figure out how the father didn't notice the extra toothbrush and razor in the bathroom...


Nobby wrote:
AngryUndead wrote:
...or that his toothbrush was wet before he used it...
uh?


I was trying to be ... somthing. Nevermind.
#21 May 20 2006 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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This reminds me of a movie back in the 70s. I can't remember the name of it, but it was about this "mentally challenged" (oh how PC of me!) guy that lived with his mother. He accidently killed a young girl, so the mother hid him in a back room that they pretty much sealed off with a fake wall so that he wouldn't be found. Well, the mother died, another family moved in and he took a liking to one of the young daughters. He would watch her through peepholes he had made through out the house.

Very creepy. Wish I could remember the name of it.


Boo Radley... dat j00?
#23 May 21 2006 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
Wow, that's amazing. Whether or not he's a disgusting pervert pedo', he deserves at least some praise. And you gotta consider; how big was the house? Did the guy eat any of the food inside the home? Taco Bell or Burger King? Maybe he was a claustropheliac instead of a claustrophobic?

Questions like these, my friends, are the real things that should be answered.
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