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#27 May 15 2006 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Sab, this might not sound like consolation, but here goes.

I had the same reaction from the 1st former Mrs Nobby's mom when we made our announcement. You'd have thought we'd just told her there was no ********* left in the bathroom.

As time moved on we became firm friends. Ironically, when our marriage went all wonky, my mother-in-law was an absolute star and helped me through it.

Only just put the phone down from her asking if I need a helping hand while I'm out of action.

Always hope, mate.

And no, before anyone asks the question. I didn't, you sick bastards.

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#28 May 15 2006 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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And no, before anyone asks the question. I didn't, you sick bastards.

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#29 May 15 2006 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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You can pick your SO's, but unfortunately you can't pick their relatives.

I don't think I've ever had a girlfriend that had a cool family. And given how disfunctional my family is, my standards aren't that high.
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#30 May 15 2006 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
Sabo, I think you have to figure that one out for yourself. Either (as one ex-girlfriend's mom was) she's just completely egocentric, in which case you'd probably have seen signs of it before (if you've been around your beau's family much), or (as has been stated already), she's in denial, and doesn't want to accept the idea of having her son with a male spouse- which kind of puts the kibosh on grandkids, unless you decide to adopt.

I got lucky with my ex. My mother-in-law and the family on that side love me. We got along from the start, possibly because her mom was dating someone when we started. Her stepdad is okay, kind of old-fashioned, doesn't say much, but doesn't disapprove. My mom was bothered by it at first (the old "why can't you find a nice White girl" routine- my wife's Black), but has since come around.

However, my wife's biological dad, and that side of the family, can't stand me. It's pretty mutual- when your father-in-law to be tells you that it's either him at the wedding or her stepdad (who has provided immensely more than her biological has in the last fifteen years), one tends to become a little bitter towards said sperm donor.

Meh, the important thing is that you love someone enough to want to marry them.
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#31 May 15 2006 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for the advice and feedback, everybody. You guys are cheaper than a therapist, and a lot more blunt. I'm trying really hard not to say anything to her, because I don't want to hurt her feelings (which would happen) and I doubt anything would change. She has done some truly wonderful things to make me feel like part of the family, but this isn't the first time she's made me feel like sh[Aqua][/Aqua]it either.

Back when we were still living in the same town as Nate's parents, I was looking for work. Since Warner Robins GA is an airforce town and everyone's on active duty, there aren't many jobs available (all the desperate housewives and military brats snatched up most of the work in town). I had applied as a location manager for Journeys, the shoe store in a mall near you. When Debra heard that I'd applied, she went to the website to check up on me and see if there really was a manager position listed, because she didn't believe me. And another time, she accused me of having spilled a bottle of champagne all over the refrigerator. Turns out, she hadn't put the cork back in properly and pressure shot it out of the bottle and into the door of the fridge, where she couldn't find it. It's always just stupid stuff, and it's incredibly insulting.

The worst one was last Thanksgiving, when she insisted Nate go with her to her side of the family's dinner but told him that she didn't want me there. She's basically told him that he's not allowed to come out to her side of the family for fear of how her parents would react. When we were having the wedding talk yesterday, Nate said he wanted his uncle Don and aunt Nicci there, and her exact response was "Well... let me think on that and decide if it's a good idea to tell him or not." Is murder ALWAYS wrong? =(
#32 May 15 2006 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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nope. Many times its justified. Jyst make sure to burn the body first and remove any evidence. Plus make sure your man will be a credible allibi
#33 May 15 2006 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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When we were having the wedding talk yesterday, Nate said he wanted his uncle Don and aunt Nicci there, and her exact response was "Well... let me think on that and decide if it's a good idea to tell him or not."


You could not tell them, but it's kind of awkward for them to find out at the wedding.

Trust me on this one, 'k?

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#34 May 15 2006 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
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When we were having the wedding talk yesterday, Nate said he wanted his uncle Don and aunt Nicci there, and her exact response was "Well... let me think on that and decide if it's a good idea to tell him or not."


You could not tell them, but it's kind of awkward for them to find out at the wedding.

Trust me on this one, 'k?



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#35 May 15 2006 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a gulf of difference between accepting your child's gayness, and getting excited at a their gay wedding.
#36 May 15 2006 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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How old is he? Is he young enough that running everything by his folks is still necessary?

A marriage is a commitment to start your own family. You should both talk about what you, as a new family, want out of your life together, whether it's a church wedding or to come out to all your family, etc, it's your decision and his. Too much emphasis is being put on his mother. I understand she hurts his feelings and by extension, your own, but you can take control of how much you let it affect you. Tell her nicely but firmly that you and Nathan will discuss who to tell what, and let her know.
You don't have to offend anyone, but make sure you're not going out of your way to cater to folks who obviously don't think of doing the same for you.

Edited, Mon May 15 17:40:22 2006 by Atomicflea
#37 May 15 2006 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Patrician wrote:
There is a gulf of difference between accepting your child's gayness, and getting excited at a their gay wedding.


Fair enough. There's also a difference between being excited, and being gracious. Even if she's not over the moon about her son marrying another man, she could put herself out and empathize with their excitement.

I think I expect too much from people.
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#38 May 15 2006 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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I think I expect too much from people.

I learned at an early age that expecting people not to suck is a gross overestimation of the majority of the populace.

Edited, Mon May 15 17:48:13 2006 by Jacobsdeception
#39 May 15 2006 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
A marriage is a commitment to start your own family.

Isn't that what I stated was my stance on marriage? Smiley: lol
Unless you count the kitties as children, 'family' isn't really an issue for some time.
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#40 May 15 2006 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
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I think I expect too much from people.

I learned at an early age that expecting people not to suck is a gross overestimation of the majority of the populace.

Edited, Mon May 15 17:48:13 2006 by Jacobsdeception


I'm still in the process of learning. Smiley: oyvey

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#41 May 15 2006 at 9:09 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
A marriage is a commitment to start your own family.

Isn't that what I stated was my stance on marriage? Smiley: lol
Unless you count the kitties as children, 'family' isn't really an issue for some time.

So what? If you marry someone and an accident renders you infertile, you're not a family? Spouses don't count?
#42 May 15 2006 at 9:31 PM Rating: Good
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Congratulations on getting engaged Saboruto!

Don't be insulted by the mild response from the soon to be in laws. Its just a lot for a parent to absorb. Give them some time to process the information.






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#43 May 15 2006 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Argh sorry to hear that Sab. I would have been so insulted too. But congrats for the engagement. And remember that the difference between in-laws and outlaws is that outlaws are wanted! :P
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