A Third President Bush/The DraftFollow

Jeb? Don't think much about him at all. I doubt seriously he'll run. Could be wrong, but it's just a vibe I get...

As to the draft? It's not a horrible idea, but it's the wrong time to implement it. I have nothing against the idea that every citizen should spend a couple years in government service. However, the right time to propose such a thing is not when we're in the midst of a military conflict. A draft in wartime is going to be seen as a means of "punishing" the populace by those who dislike the particular war going on, and will do nothing but destroy morale and performance of the military.

The test is simple: 5 years ago, how many of those arguing for a draft today were arguing for it? I'm betting darn few. Which means that they aren't arguing for a draft because they think government service is and should be a civic duty of all citizens, but because they want to make a political point about the current war. Do it when we're not at war and I'll know it's "for real".

Not to mention, the last time we implemented such a thing, it was a total disaster...

Ha! See I would have to adress a whole other issue regarding prison systems first, but I would love to see the draft reinstated, then every youth that tries shooting, fighting, or resisting... tossed in the general populace at Leavenworth... not that theres room, but they should remedy that anyway. The draft isn't about forced patriotism so much as it would be about forcing some ungrateful potheads to get off their *** and earn a little bit of the freedom they love so much. If we had the room in the prison systems.. I'd throw in every jobless, directionless, teenage ****-up whos ever thought that prank calling and hanging out at the mall was cool..... But thats just me.

Now as for for Gbaji post, you have a lotta good points, the draft maybe taken by many as a punishment for not supporting the war. You are also right in saying that 5 yrs ago nowhere near as many people supported a draft idea... but I think it takes a time of conflict to show us what needs to be done... something we can't always see in time of peace. Mandatory military service works fine in some other countries, and im my opinion .. I think it could work fine for us.

Let the man troll in peace. Like the dead squirrel on the road, he'll just twitch more if you poke him.

The draft is a bad idea anywhere. In a land based on freedom, Justice, and liberty, forcing someone to go to war or to sign up for the army by threatening them with jailtime if they don't goes against these basic principles. I would think that outside of a REAL war situatuion(Iraq doesn't count), that no one would even consider implementing the draft.

thing two(jeb) will not get Floridas vote if he does run.

after the population voting on making a class size limitation part of the constitution in Forida, and thing two spending 6 years trying to toss it out or water it down so he can spend the money else where, there is little chance of this state supporting him as a majority.

however, he certainly would make a better president than the current nightmare in office right now. he can even complete a sentance he didnt have to reherse a few hundred times without stutering or comming completly off message. something most any grade school kid can do.....but the president of the United States of America cannot.

even the republican legislatures turned against him on trying to destroy the education system in this state by selling it to for profit charter schools.

he is not nearly as much of an idiot as his brother however. he would do a better job, but so would your average 6th grader.

If there's ever going to be a draft for the Iraq war, it should be Iraqis getting drafted not Americans.
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if there is ever going to be a draft for the Iraq war, there should also be a lynching at the whitehouse.

just my openion.

Jeb's been a good one down in Florida; he's helped a lot. His main focus has been education, until late, when it's shifted to be a bit more on immigration.

Your idea about Jeb instituting a draft if he was elected to the Presidency is stupid enough that I'm not going to address it any further than this statement.

Could you imagine in the future, history classes will be teaching about the oppression of the "Bush Dynasty" and how the built a "Great Wall" across the US border?


Or maybe some new race of primate will spring up after the world gets nuked to Hell and they'll dig up old Pepsi cans and AK-47's wondering what the hell went on.

Your joking right? No one in the military ever does drugs...Noooooooo! Not to mention that there are business owners that are potheads and contribute a good amount to society. They also pay taxes that contribute to paying the salary of the soldiers. Along with equipment, ammo, etc.

Just because someone isnt in the military doesnt mean they havent earned their freedom.

Suicide mayhaps?

Love the generalization about teenagers being f*ck ups, take your head out of the sand sunshine, it's not all as bad as your children have turned out.

Well, to hear proponents of a draft talk, it's the opposite. The standard argument is that an all volunteer army is inherently discriminatory because poor people will be more likely to sign up since they have fewer opportunities available to them. And since latinos and blacks are disproportionaly poor, it therefore equations to racial discrimination to not have a draft.

Personally, I think it's a BS answer. While there are a few who maintain that argument consistently (whether there's a war they dislike going on or not), most who take this position do so for the reasons Joph pointed out already. They don't like the current war, and know that a draft would imply failure, and make more people uhappy about the war. So they propose a draft...