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#52 May 11 2006 at 10:41 PM Rating: Good
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Did it go to Florida? I hear they have a good retirement plan for overworked Left-Brains...should have flyers or something, for that. Make a lot of good money on a business like that. "Left Brains R' Us"? "We Buy/Sell Used Left Brains"?...I dunno, I'm certian you could find a catchy jingle for something like that though.
#53 May 11 2006 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
Kelvyquayo wrote:
so waht's this all about?

http://www.ee.duke.edu/~drsmith/negative_index_about.htm


Just read it.

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This is where you make an unfounded statement.

Smiley: snore


Then quit saying stupid things.
#54 May 11 2006 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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so you're saying that Negative Refraction isn't real?


Correct.


say again?

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/9/4/11 wrote:
Physicists in the US have demonstrated negative refraction at optical wavelengths for the first time.


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#55 May 11 2006 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Too much **** going on at once in this thread. I feel like I'm tripping...

#56 May 11 2006 at 10:45 PM Rating: Good
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I feel like I'm tripping...


I actually hear that a lot. funny



Edited, Thu May 11 23:52:21 2006 by Kelvyquayo
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#57 May 11 2006 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
Actually, that article's pretty neat. As stated in it, there can't be a negative index of refraction, as classically defined. They're redefining it.. creating something new and giving it the old name, hence the confusion.
#58 May 11 2006 at 10:46 PM Rating: Good
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Just blame me. That's what everyone else does. But seriously, now I'm out of pixie-stick. Gotta go find another pixie and shake it violentally for more....where's my net...
#59 May 11 2006 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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ReofblMobile wrote:
Actually, that article's pretty neat. As stated in it, there can't be a negative index of refraction, as classically defined. They're redefining it.. creating something new and giving it the old name, hence the confusion.



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I'm just stupidSmiley: frown
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#60 May 11 2006 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
Ah I have to confess, it's been a neat thing to look into, but I need some sleep for graduation tommorow.

Peace.
#61 May 11 2006 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
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I watch Star Trek like lonely women eat chocolate..

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#62 May 11 2006 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Next MMO I'm going to play is STO....

#63 May 11 2006 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
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I just read most of this thread, but part of my brain popped and deflated, and now I'm drooling on my sheets. Smiley: frown
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#64 May 12 2006 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
You really want to know how to be invisible?
1. Get some black paint.
2. Get some black cloths.
3. Put on the black cloths
4. Cover your skin with the black paint.
5. Run around at night.
#65 May 12 2006 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
Zurckoneos's signature wrote:
It is better to be silent and thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


You know.. you're going to hate this.. but it's "than", not "then".
#66 May 12 2006 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Negative refraction seems...odd. Hell, even refraction under 1 seems odd. n < 1 would insinuate that a material is speeding light up past the speed of light. I...don't even know how you'd find a negative value out of that...even as you approach an infinite speed, n could only go to 0. I'm too tired and lacking in a degree in math to understand this crap.
So far it seems almost completely impossible to "speed up light", because the speed of light (in a vaccuum) is ~3.0 x 10 ^ 8. However, since we're talking about velocities, you CAN say the velocity of light can be negative as compared to the velocity of normal light. For reflective surfaces, light goes one direction and goes out the opposite direction, effectively having a negative velocity.

The only way you can see an object is for light to bouce off've it and come back to your eyes. Now...MAYBE if light bounces off an object in the exact opposite wave pattern as it went TO the object, the light would never get to a person's eyes, and thus you'd never have an image of the object, although I believe you'd have a "blank spot" in your field of vision, because that object WOULD be completely blocking all the light to objects directly behind it (from your perspective). So whereas you might not be able to make out what the object is, you'd know an object was there...

This is all off the top've my head.
#67 May 12 2006 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
Damnit, Kelv popped a physics thread in and i was too busy with work to check it =/

And ya, at first just seems like they found a decent source of negative interference, but its not my work so who knows. Ill do some checking up on it and find out. Ive been working on magnetic resonance research for a while now, not quite cloaking devices... but it helps cancer patients...
#68 May 13 2006 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Damnit, Kelv popped a physics thread in and i was too busy with work

Wait, I thought this was a Star Trek thread... Smiley: confused

#69 May 13 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Decent
Jawbox wrote:
EvilPhysicist wrote:
Damnit, Kelv popped a physics thread in and i was too busy with work

Wait, I thought this was a Star Trek thread... Smiley: confused


May as well be.

Someone should start one. (Most of my threads get shot down, so someone else should do this.) It's a geeky subject, yeah, but it can be neat.

I was watching a Deep Space Nine earlier that's winning me over. Classes are out for the summer, so I need something to do with my freetime, right? :P
#70 May 13 2006 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
ReofblMobile wrote:
The index of refraction we've been debating is the rate at which light progresses through a material. As I gave above, (n = c / v), where n is the index, c is the speed of electromagnetic radiation in a vacuum, and v is the speed of the particular representative of electromagnetic radiation in the particular medium. The information you gave above was a good summary of a way of determining it.


For what it's worth, a material with a (by convention) negative IOR simply means that light shone into it bends away from the normal of the surface rather than across the normal.

Then again, I go by the definition of the index of refraction as the scaling factor for the sine of the angle of a light ray at the interface between two materials (so more of an optics-from-math standpoint than a physics standpoint).

This is where the whole "negative IOR" thing as a convention comes from, anyway.
#71 May 13 2006 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
ReofblMobile: I really, really dont care.

Edited, Sat May 13 08:46:40 2006 by Zurckoneos
#72 May 13 2006 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
Zurckoneos wrote:
ReofblMobile: I really, really dont care.

Edited, Sat May 13 08:46:40 2006 by Zurckoneos


Alright..
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