Meeko wrote:
I was raised in a way to uphold every family value I was taught, to keep my parent's legacy and to portray myself as respectable and admirable citizen.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Meeko wrote:
It's already hard to respect them for propagating the idea that having sex with the same species is okay and now they want the right to adopt children?
This is just too easy...
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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I was raised in a way to uphold every family value I was taught, to keep my parent's legacy and to portray myself as respectable and admirable citizen.
earlier post you said:
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Hell, back in my teenage days if I ever met someone who had gay parents, you'd bet your *** I'd make fun of him/her for living in a f'ucked up environment. Kids love easy targets and having f'ucked parents is definitely a bull's eye.
then you said:
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It's already hard to respect them for propagating the idea that having sex with the same species is okay and now they want the right to adopt children?
Ok, so do you see what doesn't make sense? You think that forbidding Gay couples to adopt children, is being respectable or admirable? A real man stands up and realizes that PEOPLE are PEOPLE, no matter what. Hell, my mother doesnt like that fact my brother is gay, she thinks its wrong and is always throwing the Bible in his face, but then she turns around and talks about how it wrong to discriminate against people.
That's why I no longer associate myself with her as little as possible, or with any hypocrites. You dont have to go through your whole life trying to please mommy and daddy, if on that road you say the hateful things that you do, it is apparent what they have taught you. Now I see why you think the way you do, so I can't really blame you. I'm not saying that you have to agree with homosexuality, but your disagreements with their life style should not warrant justification for "gays not to adopt kids".
Just answer one question would you rather see a child in a loving home even if both parents are the same sex, or would you rather that child be in a foster home/group home?.
I guess you don't really understand where I'm coming from here. Take this scenario for example. If one day I came home and told my parents I were gay, they would either:
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
I thank nature and luck everyday for giving me the possibility to love a woman and not a man.
And of course my opinions are flawed, discriminatory and racist (to a certain extent). That's the way I was raised and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Moreover, stop confronting me with your "open-minded" attitude bulls'hit. You're not better than me by blaming me for thinking the way I do. How dare you even blame me anyways? Narcissism and pride has never been a bad thing to begin with.
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
I thank nature and luck everyday for giving me the possibility to love a woman and not a man.
And of course my opinions are flawed, discriminatory and racist (to a certain extent). That's the way I was raised and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Moreover, stop confronting me with your "open-minded" attitude bulls'hit. You're not better than me by blaming me for thinking the way I do. How dare you even blame me anyways? Narcissism and pride has never been a bad thing to begin with.
Meeko wrote:
I guess you don't really understand where I'm coming from here. Take this scenario for example. If one day I came home and told my parents I were gay, they would either:
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
I thank nature and luck everyday for giving me the possibility to love a woman and not a man.
And of course my opinions are flawed, discriminatory and racist (to a certain extent). That's the way I was raised and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Moreover, stop confronting me with your "open-minded" attitude bulls'hit. You're not better than me by blaming me for thinking the way I do. How dare you even blame me anyways? Narcissism and pride has never been a bad thing to begin with.
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
I thank nature and luck everyday for giving me the possibility to love a woman and not a man.
And of course my opinions are flawed, discriminatory and racist (to a certain extent). That's the way I was raised and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Moreover, stop confronting me with your "open-minded" attitude bulls'hit. You're not better than me by blaming me for thinking the way I do. How dare you even blame me anyways? Narcissism and pride has never been a bad thing to begin with.
I think you may be a ****, but you've got 10,000 layers of denial preventing you from realizing it. I blame you.
Think whatever you want. I've had plenty of sexual relations with women. I've never been attracted to men in anyway.
But hey, if you say I'm gay. I must be!
But hey, if you say I'm gay. I must be!
Meeko wrote:
Think whatever you want. I've had plenty of sexual relations with women. I've never been attracted to men in anyway.
But hey, if you say I'm gay. I must be!
But hey, if you say I'm gay. I must be!
It's okay you can tell us, you don't have to lie to kick it.
Samira wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Meeko wrote:
It's already hard to respect them for propagating the idea that having sex with the same species is okay and now they want the right to adopt children?
This is just too easy...
Edited, Wed Mar 8 01:20:34 2006 by Althrun
What the hell meeko, how dare you "BLAME THEM FOR THINKING THE WAY THEY DO!"
Rimesume the Shady wrote:
It's okay you can tell us, you don't have to lie to kick it.
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How you doin'?
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Meeko wrote:
kalaria wrote:
So you justify making fun of someone because they have a different family make up than yours? That is no justification for being a complete *******.
Of course. Some families have an infrastructure much stronger than others and, fortunately, my family falls in a category of superiority.
Okay, I've been trying to resist this for days, but I just can't anymore.
Your family has a "strong infrastructure" but yet you say they would somehow seek your death if you decided you were someone they don't want you to be?
Because this is the claim you made:
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f one day I came home and told my parents I were gay, they would either:
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
A) Have someone kill me.
B) Disown me.
C) Kill me themselves.
And that seems superior to you somehow, that your parents would rather see you dead than see you be something they don't like? That seems to you to be a "strong infrastructure?"
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Expectations are a powerful thing. I was raised in a way to uphold every family value I was taught,
And one "family value" that you were taught it making the life of someone whose parents are different than yours a misery, as you have already confessed that to do so would be your inclination, as quoted here:
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Hell, back in my teenage days if I ever met someone who had gay parents, you'd bet your *** I'd make fun of him/her for living in a f'ucked up environment.
This seems to you an upright example of "family values"?
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to keep my parent's legacy and to portray myself as respectable and admirable citizen.
Okay...just to be sure we're clear here. Your parent's "legacy" and "being a respectable citizen" includes:
1) Intolerance
2) Seeking the death of one's offspring for doing something they find intolerable
3) Bullying and verbal harassment of those whose families do something you find intolerable
4) An undeserved sense of moral superiority
Did I miss anything?
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Most families lack this ideology therefore why the ascribed social boundaries are kept intact.
Indeed, you are right. Social boundaries are DEFINITELY kept intact because most families lack the "ideology" of yours. Glad we agree on that.
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It's black or white issue.
No, it's not. "Black and white" is the only issue that is "black and white." But keep deluding yourself.
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Some things are natural while others aren't. Having two homosexuals raise a child is definitely not one of them.
Consider for a moment that the book that started this discussion is about two animals of the same sex took it upon themselves to behave like a mating couple and raise an adopted youngster together. Unless you are saying that something an animal instinctually does, behavior which is FOUND IN NATURE, is somehow not natural, then the idea that a same-sex couple can adopt offspring is, indeed, "natural" because it is, after all, found repeatedly in nature.
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It's already hard to respect them for propagating the idea that having sex with the same species is okay and now they want the right to adopt children?
You know, about a hundred years ago, it was illegal in my state for a white woman to marry a "Chinaman." People thought it was "unnatural" to marry someone not of your own race. Then, someone "propogated the idea" that interracial marriage is okay. As a result, I am the wife of a half-Japanese/half-Caucasian man. Golly, we can even adopt a child if we want! On nos! That child might be made fun of because her parents are different races! Is that a reason to leave the kid in a state home?
I bet there were a lot of people that once didn't "respect" those who said that interracial marriage was okay...but that's all right. I find the "respect" of bigots doesn't matter all that much.
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What the f'uck are they going to be asking for next? Discounts for tickets at the theater?
Are they being denied discount tickets on account of their sexuality while straight couples are receiving the aforementioned tickets with no question asked? Then why the hell wouldn't they?
What's this vendetta against me?
Not my fault if I find homosexuality disgusting on every level and that I put myself on a pedestal above everyone else. Remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions to all the wannabe idealists out there. So respect mine.
Although both facts hold quite a lot of relevance, arguing semantics over my beliefs is not going to resolve anything.
Sure, the way I was raised is old-fashioned and quite intolerent, but in my eyes, and to the eyes of my friends, there's nothing wrong with it; I really cannot imagine another way to behave than the one I have now. A feeling of superiority naturally arises when you're accomodated with all the material goods desired during your whole life. People who've had the chance know what I'm talking about. Others don't. Most of you fall in the "don't" category.
But the real issue still remains: gay parents should never be given the chance to adopt children.
I see the homosexual community as the same as the black community. You have a bunch of n'egroes constantly complaining about their history and how they're not given the chance to rise up. Fine. Shut the f'uck up and do something about it instead of blaming me. Okay, we made profit off you back in the day, but now go out there and get a job. And please for f'uck sakes, adopt a culture which doesn't promote the use of violence, distort the English language and give the incentive to put pieces of metal on your teeth.
Now, the same logic can be applied to the gay community. They b'tich, they whine, they moan, about an issue they should not even care about. I guarantee most of these weirdoes out there are just trying to get married for the economical benefits. The gay community has repeatedely failed to show why they deserve the right to get married like normal people.
I said it before and I said it again people: Democracy doesn't work.
Edited, Wed Mar 8 01:56:40 2006 by Meeko
Not my fault if I find homosexuality disgusting on every level and that I put myself on a pedestal above everyone else. Remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions to all the wannabe idealists out there. So respect mine.
Although both facts hold quite a lot of relevance, arguing semantics over my beliefs is not going to resolve anything.
Sure, the way I was raised is old-fashioned and quite intolerent, but in my eyes, and to the eyes of my friends, there's nothing wrong with it; I really cannot imagine another way to behave than the one I have now. A feeling of superiority naturally arises when you're accomodated with all the material goods desired during your whole life. People who've had the chance know what I'm talking about. Others don't. Most of you fall in the "don't" category.
But the real issue still remains: gay parents should never be given the chance to adopt children.
I see the homosexual community as the same as the black community. You have a bunch of n'egroes constantly complaining about their history and how they're not given the chance to rise up. Fine. Shut the f'uck up and do something about it instead of blaming me. Okay, we made profit off you back in the day, but now go out there and get a job. And please for f'uck sakes, adopt a culture which doesn't promote the use of violence, distort the English language and give the incentive to put pieces of metal on your teeth.
Now, the same logic can be applied to the gay community. They b'tich, they whine, they moan, about an issue they should not even care about. I guarantee most of these weirdoes out there are just trying to get married for the economical benefits. The gay community has repeatedely failed to show why they deserve the right to get married like normal people.
I said it before and I said it again people: Democracy doesn't work.
Edited, Wed Mar 8 01:56:40 2006 by Meeko
Meeko wrote:
I see the homosexual community as the same as the black community. You have a bunch of n'egroes constantly complaining about their history and how they're not given the chance to rise up. Fine. Shut the f'uck up and do something about it instead of blaming me. Okay, we made profit off you back in the day, but now go out there and get a job. And please for f'uck sakes, adopt a culture which doesn't promote the use of violence, distort the English language and give the incentive to put pieces of metal on your teeth.
(s)he compaired **** and darkies!
Is it wrong to complain about injustices done to you in even modern times? As I recall crimes against Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, and any other race out there still happen today. According to you all black people do is sit around and collect a welfare check, right?. That's all I read out of that. It's staggering to me how limited your way of thinking is. 'If they aren't strait, religious, white, they ain't right!'
I am assuming you are an American.
The whole idea behind our country's exsistance is to be who we want to be without fear of unjust persecution or harrasment from not only the federal government, but also state, and local governments. I don't see how homosexuals getting married effects the life, liberty, or the persuit of happiness of anyone else. However, plenty of closed-minded idiots like yourself are willing to take away the same from homosexuals on a daily basis. I don't see how a homosexual couple raising children effects your persuit of happiness in anyway. It is a person's right in this country to father/mother children if they so desire, as long as they are not negligent. I don't see how someone is automatically a negligent parent based solely on the fact that they are homosexual.
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I see the homosexual community as the same as the black community. You have a bunch of n'egroes constantly complaining about their history and how they're not given the chance to rise up. Fine. Shut the f'uck up and do something about it instead of blaming me. Okay, we made profit off you back in the day, but now go out there and get a job. And please for f'uck sakes, adopt a culture which doesn't promote the use of violence, distort the English language and give the incentive to put pieces of metal on your teeth.
Seriously dude, you got f'cking issues man. Next time to some damn research about Black culture, instead of relying on TELEVISION to base your opinion off of. First of all you've never lived in the f'cking hood, and a person does not have to wear a "grill" if they do not want to. So the f'ck what if they want gold teeth, and it's called SLANG idiot, every culture has it. White people use slang, Black people use slang, all cultures have slang.
If you had read what I wrote, I am not BLAMING you. I said, you do not have to like anyone, I don't give damn who you like and who you don't, that is the reason we have Democracy, so people who are like you can't just go around rounding up the gays, and burning crosses. You don't know jack ****, and have lived a sheltered life, you probably have had a whole bunch of negative **** drilled into your head.
/sarcasm on
So I say this hopefully one day you can grow the hell up, and realize this world does not run on your terms, and if you ever see me on the street, I'll have my grill with me, kissing on my girlfriend, while in line to adopt a child.
/sarcasm off
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kissing on my girlfriend
Elaborate.
Still can't believe people have quoted that section and not realized.....
I'm very happy to see how dedicated you are to your position meeko, and seeing that your so concerned for the welfare of these children , i hope to see you adopt 5 or 6 real soon.
Meeko, the intolerant nutbag wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, ***, blah blah, burn in hell, blah blah, dirty jew
I can only hope that your kids are gay. Life has its way of kicking you in the as[red][/red]s and making you realize that your not in charge.
Edited, Wed Mar 8 09:53:48 2006 by Kaelesh
Althrun the Silent wrote:
Still can't believe people have quoted that section and not realized.....
What? that meeko is shaping up to be a much better troll these days? I think we're all pretty clear on that.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Althrun the Silent wrote:
Still can't believe people have quoted that section and not realized.....
What? that meeko is shaping up to be a much better troll these days? I think we're all pretty clear on that.
I meant this part-
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It's already hard to respect them for propagating the idea that having sex with the same species is okay and now they want the right to adopt children?
has so far been quoted twice in rebuttal and neither party has caught the humour therein.
Oh everyone caught it, but the image of meeko having sex with a different species is easier to handle then him having sex with ours.
You got me there.
Dude, have some coffee.
The humor is WHY it was quoted. It was even italicized in one of the quotes.
The humor is WHY it was quoted. It was even italicized in one of the quotes.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
yeah, in mine, not theirs........
Maybe we should direct Meeko to the bestiality thread.
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