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#1 Mar 03 2006 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
Now honestly, who else thinks spending millions, wasting TV time on a show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to people solely because there black is, well, stupid.

This is just stupid. I mean honestly.

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#2 Mar 03 2006 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
I dunno. We have beauty pageants, why not black pageants?

We have basketball, why not NAACP awards?

We have NASCAR, why not NAACP awards?

We have the Travel Channel, why not NAACP awards?

I say it fits right in with the rest of the dumbass things out there.
#3 Mar 03 2006 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
Where's the NCACP (Caucasion(Sp?)) awards? NLACP (Latin) awards?

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#4 Mar 03 2006 at 8:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Where's the NCACP (Caucasion(Sp?)) awards? NLACP (Latin) awards?

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The National Caucasian for the Advancement of Colored People?

Interesting idea, dimwit...


#5 Mar 03 2006 at 8:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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TheBlix wrote:
a show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to people solely because there black
So... do they have an award for every single black person or is there a lottery system?
Trickybeck wrote:
The National Caucasian for the Advancement of Colored People?
They can make one gigantic White Russian and all the blacks can partake and discuss their future!

Another Caucasian, Gary...

Edited, Fri Mar 3 20:56:13 2006 by Jophiel
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#7 Mar 03 2006 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
So... do they have an award for every single black person or is there a lottery system?

It's hard to remember but its the system they use in prison for who gets the the four-square balls.



Edited, Fri Mar 3 21:03:15 2006 by baelnic
#8 Mar 03 2006 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
TheBlix wrote:
Now honestly, who else thinks spending millions, wasting TV time on a show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to people solely because there black is, well, stupid.

This is just stupid. I mean honestly.

~Blix


Well, there's already a TV show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to stupid people.

It's called "Wheel of Fortune".
#9 Mar 03 2006 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
trickybeck wrote:
TheBlix wrote:
Where's the NCACP (Caucasion(Sp?)) awards? NLACP (Latin) awards?

~Blix

The National Caucasian for the Advancement of Colored People?

Interesting idea, dimwit...





Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix
#10 Mar 03 2006 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
TheBlix wrote:


Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix


Isn't that second one correctly the Association for the National Advancement of Latinos?
#11 Mar 03 2006 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
TheBlix wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
TheBlix wrote:
Where's the NCACP (Caucasion(Sp?)) awards? NLACP (Latin) awards?

~Blix

The National Caucasian for the Advancement of Colored People?

Interesting idea, dimwit...





Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix


It's called the Republican Party, numbnuts.

/Smash off
#12 Mar 03 2006 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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TheBlix wrote:


Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix


Isn't that second one correctly the Association for the National Advancement of Latinos?


No that's the Gay Latin Community.

~Blix
#13 Mar 03 2006 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
TheBlix wrote:
MDenham the Shady wrote:
TheBlix wrote:


Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix


Isn't that second one correctly the Association for the National Advancement of Latinos?


No that's the Gay Latin Community.

~Blix


Why am I not surprised that you happen to know about this group so well?
#14 Mar 03 2006 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
MDenham the Shady wrote:
TheBlix wrote:
MDenham the Shady wrote:
TheBlix wrote:


Haha, ignorance. Well NAACaucasianP NAALatinP. My bad.

~Blix


Isn't that second one correctly the Association for the National Advancement of Latinos?


No that's the Gay Latin Community.

~Blix


Why am I not surprised that you happen to know about this group so well?


Obviously because you're a gay Latino and you were telling me about it via annoying PMs.

Remember? Or maybe you were drunk.

Oh well.

~Blix
#15 Mar 03 2006 at 10:54 PM Rating: Good
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Now honestly, who else thinks spending millions, wasting TV time on a show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to people solely because there black is, well, stupid.

This is just stupid. I mean honestly.


A lot of Black actors/actress and movies are over looked because they are are black or too ethnic, that is why. Making a statement like that with out any basis for it, is ignorant. Halle Berry was the 2nd Black woman to win an Acedemy award since 1940. There have been plenty of Black women deserving of an Acedemy Award, since then, and it took 60 yrs for another Black actress to win an Oscar for Best female actress, hmm I wonder why. Since the first Best Actress oscar was won in 1940, the rest of the oscars given to Black women were for best supporting actress, and were over looked for Best actress. Times are getting better, but there is still discrimination against Black actors and movies because they are Black. That is the reason why the have the NAACP Awards, so they can get the recognition they deserve.

For you to call it stupid, just proves my point. Have you done any research about the discrimination against Black people among popular award shows? Do you even care? Probably not, you dont have to care, but it is stupid to post about something when you dont even know the history, or the reason why.

Edited, Fri Mar 3 23:02:18 2006 by kalaria
#16 Mar 03 2006 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Now honestly, who else thinks spending millions, wasting TV time on a show based ENTIRELY on giving awards to people solely because there black is, well, stupid.

This is just stupid. I mean honestly.


A lot of Black actors/actress and movies are over looked because they are are black or too ethnic, that is why. Making a statement like that with out any basis for it, is ignorant. Halle Berry was the 2nd Black woman to win an Acedemy award since 1940. There have been plenty of Black women deserving of an Acedemy Award, since then, and it took 60 yrs for another Black actress to win an Oscar for Best female actress, hmm I wonder why. Since the first Best Actress oscar was won in 1940, the rest of the oscars given to Black women were for best supporting actress, and were over looked for Best actress. Times are getting better, but there is still discrimination against Black actors and movies because they are Black. That is the reason why the have the NAACP Awards, so they can get the recognition they deserve.

For you to call it stupid, just proves my point. Have you done any research about the discrimination against Black people among popular award shows? Do you even care? Probably not, you dont have to care, but it is stupid to post about something when you dont even know the history, or the reason why.

Edited, Fri Mar 3 23:02:18 2006 by kalaria


My point that I obviously put across rather badly is that just like Black history month it makes things unequal. It should all just be a plain mix and these things that split it up are not good ideas, they just cause more tension.

~Blix
#17 Mar 03 2006 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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My point that I obviously put across rather badly is that just like Black history month it makes things unequal. It should all just be a plain mix and these things that split it up are not good ideas, they just cause more tension.


I understand what you are saying, but the Award shows for Black people are to make things even, because some award shows are not fairly presented to include all great actors no matter what race. But, some award shows will nominate Black actors and/or movies, but the majority of the actual awards for leading roles will go to mostly white people. I mean I wish things were fair, but the truth is we are far from it sadly. :( Maybe in 20 yrs things will be different.

I know personally I think Black history month has become ridiculous, you never see any one new. It's always the same people from 100 yrs. ago, with the added in few that have recently died. To me to really celebrate it, have new people introduced, so that we learn something new. When I was in school, I hated Blacked history month, we always watched the same depressing stuff, nothing new about people we didnt know about.

So, I agree with what you are saying, but if things were fair there wouldnt be a need to a Black beauty pageant, or award shows. :(

Read this: http://www.blackhistorypages.net/pages/mfairbanks.php

This info was right on the internet, so for me there is no excuse to have the same people, and depressing images each year for Black history month. Ive only seen few programs that show present facts about Black history, and they usually come on at 2 am. -.-

Edited, Fri Mar 3 23:47:37 2006 by kalaria
#18 Mar 03 2006 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
Yes maybe I should have said it in a more intelligent way aye? ^^;

~Blix
#19 Mar 06 2006 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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My point that I obviously put across rather badly is that just like Black history month it makes things unequal. It should all just be a plain mix and these things that split it up are not good ideas, they just cause more tension.


I understand what you are saying, but the Award shows for Black people are to make things even, because some award shows are not fairly presented to include all great actors no matter what race. But, some award shows will nominate Black actors and/or movies, but the majority of the actual awards for leading roles will go to mostly white people. I mean I wish things were fair, but the truth is we are far from it sadly. :( Maybe in 20 yrs things will be different.


Here's the deal though. How does making your own award show actually fix the inequities in the "other shows"? More to the point, once you've established the "black only" award show, would anyone stop doing it if someday the other shows were no longer racially biased? Are you actually fighting racial bias by creating yet another show that's blatantly racially biased? Isn't that just perpetuating the problem?


Even more to the point, how do you *know* that the other shows are passing over black performers today? Will you know when that ceases to be a problem? As long as you have an NAACP awards people will always assume they're there because the other awards aren't fair or something, and no one will actually ever know for sure.


I guess what I'm saying is that the solution to a social problem in which a group of people are not being included with the rest is to fight for inclusion, not think it's all ok because they got their own award show...
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#20 Mar 06 2006 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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NAACP Award Show

we're even having our own in here!



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What'choo talkin' bout, Willis?? EVERYmonth is WHITE history Month.
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#21 Mar 06 2006 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Separate But Equal! Hey, I think you're on to somthing.

I wonder how that would work out in the school system...

You either suck it up and fight to be included, or take your lumps and seperate on every point. I think we're all tired of this. Think of the outcry that would break out for an all-majority-ethnicity show, labled as such. We tried the separate thing, and nobody seemed to like that, so stop doing it.

Oh, and Halle Berry was the first black woman to win an Oscar for best actress.

Edit: Not the second to be nominated, there were about 7 nominations before her, I can't remember what the page looked like now.

Edited, Mon Mar 6 10:41:17 2006 by AngryUndead
#22 Mar 07 2006 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
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would anyone stop doing it if someday the other shows were no longer racially biased? Are you actually fighting racial bias by creating yet another show that's blatantly racially biased? Isn't that just perpetuating the problem?


Even more to the point, how do you *know* that the other shows are passing over black performers today? Will you know when that ceases to be a problem? As long as you have an NAACP awards people will always assume they're there because the other awards aren't fair or something, and no one will actually ever know for sure.


I guess what I'm saying is that the solution to a social problem in which a group of people are not being included with the rest is to fight for inclusion, not think it's all ok because they got their own award show...


So, basically your saying the playing field is even for white people over minorities? I don't think so few Black people have won oscars, they tend to slide one in every now and then. Just because we decided to host our own awards shows does not mean that only Black people can win. The award show include a lot of movies a,d/or actors/actresses that are over looked by award shows that constanly give a majority of the awards to White people. I am not saying that the award shows are racists, but there is still a biased against Black people. The oscars have been around for like Ithink 70 something years, and people have complained and fought, over and over, but still nothing drastic has changed.

Like I said before if the world was perfect we wouldn't have this problem. If there wasnt a NAACP awrds, or Vibe awards, or Ebony awards, a lot of people would be over looked for the recognintion that they deserve. It's been 70 yrs, things have changed but not much, it was time to give them the recognition.

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Oh, and Halle Berry was the first black woman to win an Oscar for best actress.


Actually no she wasnt, Hattie Mcdaniel was first Black Woman to win an Oscar for best Actress in a leading role, Halee Berry was the 2nd since her to win that specific award, 64 yrs later and your complaining about a NAACP award show? lmao. http://members.aol.com/ttelracs/Hattie.htm

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You either suck it up and fight to be included, or take your lumps and seperate on every point. I think we're all tired of this. Think of the outcry that would break out for an all-majority-ethnicity show, labled as such. We tried the separate thing, and nobody seemed to like that, so stop doing it.


Thats what the majority usually says, cause they would rather see Black people sitting on their *** doing nothing, biting there finger nails saying "When is massa, gone let me win, Law I sho hope I win dis time". Hell, if things were fair there wouldnt be a need for it, so dont complain about a show that where the majority of the winners are Black, because the only people complaining about the majority of the Oscars going to White people, are Black people.

So we had to do something for us, because it will NEVER be fair, it will always be that racists ****, thinking they dont want no Black person getting a certain award, they sometimes do not judge on talent, but judge on race.

Whenever the day comes when you wake up Black and have to deal with the **** we deal with, sometimes on and everyday basis then come talk to me about what is fair. Oh and Black people whether racially mixed or not out number White people in America, so there isn't any lack of good Black actors/actresses.

Read if you would like to:
http://www.naacpimageawards.net/history.html

If you understood the why? Instead of just crying that it isnt fair, do some reading before you make an ignorant comment like that.

This is a quote from the website about WHY.

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Presented annually, the NAACP Image Awards is the nation’s premier event celebrating the outstanding achievements and performances of people of color in the arts as well as those individuals or groups who promote social justice.

The NAACP Image Awards are an exciting, star-studded salute to the best in entertainment. Honorees, presenters and performers have included many of the major celebrities in America as well as international political figures and dignitaries. There are 36 competitive categories in the fields of motion picture, television, music and literature. There are also several honorary awards including the Chairman’s Award, The President’s Award and The Image Awards Hall of Fame.


Edited, Tue Mar 7 02:21:01 2006 by kalaria
#23 Mar 07 2006 at 2:03 AM Rating: Good
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What great movies were done up by some black people that are viewed as having been passed over for just being by black people?
#24 Mar 07 2006 at 2:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Of course I do not know every single movie or actor/actress that was passes up for an Oscar, because it was ethnic, but if their wasnt any biased it would have taken 64 yrs. for another Black woman to receive an Oscar for best actress in a leading role. Everything I had to say is in my post above, to not recognize that there is discrimination against Black people at certain awards show is being willfully blind.

Now, I'm not saying all White people are racist. I do think that sometimes when a Black person cries "racism", it is no true. But in this case it is. Please read the links, to get more information, before jumping to conclusions and thinking that the NAACP awards are not fair.
#25 Mar 07 2006 at 3:49 AM Rating: Good
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Kalaria, it seems as though you think there is some injustice in the award show, so I would imagine there must be some instances your familiar with to make such a conclusion.

Personally, I am unfamiliar with any movies that have been done in the past year that had an interesting character who was black. Usually the roles you see often times involving black people just have a lot of people getting wrapped up in racial diffrences(white guys walk like this, black guys like that), drugs, cops, or of the black guy fighting the "man".

The last time I even saw a sort of light comedy movie with a black main character it turned out to be an odd version of "Ruthless People"(named something involving king's ransom?).

I'm somewhat of the opinion that there just haven't been many movies done that could even give an opportunity for a black actor that wouldn't be race based. It's somewhat like how every time a movie or TV show has a gay character, the character is often incredibly flamboyant.

There's just not a lot of originality and studios probably wouldn't want to branch out much and risk any major loss.

There was the one horror movie a couple years ago with Halle Berry(sp?), but such movies are few and far between. Though I'm not sure what to think of the Afro Samurai thing.
#26 Mar 07 2006 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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One thing I didnt say in my post is that, some more ethnic T.v. shows are overlooked, by certain award shows. Plz read the History of the NAACP award show and you will see why they have it.

Like I said above, things of course are much better in Amercia than 60 yrs ago, but the discrimination still takes place, becasue their are still people in Hollywood who dont look at just talent for certain roles, but rely on race. The info I provided has enough info one to understand why, If someone still doesn't then they choose not to understand for what ever reason.

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Personally, I am unfamiliar with any movies that have been done in the past year that had an interesting character who was black. Usually the roles you see often times involving black people just have a lot of people getting wrapped up in racial diffrences(white guys walk like this, black guys like that), drugs, cops, or of the black guy fighting the "man".


So your saying there have been no Black cultural movies that were good, that showed intelligent Black people, instead of the usual "hood" parts? Have you seen "Brown Sugar", "The Brothers", "The Best Man".? They were good movies, and did not involve "fighting the man". There are plenty of movies celebrating our culture, just because you have not seen them does not mean there are no good movies, or know the basis of why it was made. Spike Lee made excellent movies dealing with racial discrimination, which people didnt like because people like to think it doesnt exist, when it is right in their faces.

This is a quote from the history section of the NAACP award website.

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Ideas and images create the belief systems that control our individual and societal actions. When it comes to forming ideas, reinforcing stereotypes, establishing norms and shaping our thinking nothing affects us more than the images and concepts delivered into our lives on a daily basis by television and film. Accordingly there is ample cause for concern about what does or does not happen on television when there is little or no diversity in either opportunities or the decision making process.


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As recognized by director Steven Spielberg at the 2000 NAACP Image Awards, the motion picture industry must confess its guilty hand in perpetuating the lack of diversity both in front of and behind the movie lens. As Mr. Spielberg then correctly stated, there’s “a lot to be done in the world we share. We still must acknowledge the painful absence of racial diversity within our very own industry. We need to hire studio executives of color. We need to foster young minority talent both in front of and behind the scenes.”




Edited, Tue Mar 7 12:38:04 2006 by kalaria
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