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#302 Mar 03 2006 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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Hell, if you all keep making it sound like a glorified SIMS, I may play, too.
Really, I treat it as a glorified IRC channel except I get to kill stuff and let DSD die.

Are your toons still Motherland-themed?
#303 Mar 03 2006 at 6:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Alas, no.

I do have a middle-aged, balding, red-headed guy though.
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#304 Mar 03 2006 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
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And I have a horse that's on fire!
#305 Mar 03 2006 at 7:02 PM Rating: Default
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#306 Mar 03 2006 at 7:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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And I have a horse that's on fire!
This is payback for "Hey! I can fly!", isn't it? Smiley: laugh
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#307 Mar 03 2006 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Mistress Nadenu wrote:
And I have a horse that's on fire!
This is payback for "Hey! I can fly!", isn't it? Smiley: laugh


I owe you a few deaths, too.
#308 Mar 03 2006 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Nadenu wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Mistress Nadenu wrote:
And I have a horse that's on fire!
This is payback for "Hey! I can fly!", isn't it? Smiley: laugh


I owe you a few deaths, too.


Get one in for me would ya? Make it 4 actually
#309 Mar 04 2006 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
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#310 Mar 04 2006 at 3:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Can we get a sticky on this thread?

Just to **** off Nexa?


We keep waiting for someone to try blatant large scale bribery to get us to sticky an asylum thread. So far no one has. I think you are all just cheap bastards.

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#311 Mar 04 2006 at 3:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think you are all just cheap bastards.

Bullshìt. I'm willing to bet that a higher percentage of Asylum regulars are premium users than any other forum. Not because of the extra features either, but because Alla deserves something for tolerating us this long. Smiley: rolleyes
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#312 Mar 04 2006 at 4:49 AM Rating: Good
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Meh. If anything deservers to be a sticky in this form, it's Joph's description of how the Asylum started and what it is. That's the only thing I can see be sticky-worthy.
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#313 Mar 04 2006 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Nadenu wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Mistress Nadenu wrote:
And I have a horse that's on fire!
This is payback for "Hey! I can fly!", isn't it? Smiley: laugh


I owe you a few deaths, too.


Me too.

Seeing the trail of death and destruction left behind as Joph moves through MMO's, I have to wonder if he really understands the goal of these games???


...and I, too, needed a post on this thread - friggin sheep.
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#314 Mar 04 2006 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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And they lived happily ever after!

Probably not but the drama is done. The transition over to the Lunatics is pretty much over. There was a schism but it was pretty clear that it was not an equal divide.

Synopsis of What Happened After

Day One - March 2nd
The first night we got the charter signed and most of the regulars moved over. We gathered in IF and goofed around and had a good time all round. Turns out you can't register a guild unless the charter is in your 1st bag (sorry for the hold up). A fair number of people joined but most people were playing on the Horde alt guild "We" or just avoiding the situation so it was still up in the air.

Day Two - March 3rd
Smoggy came on with the line that the Asylumites were restructuring. In his words they had lost the drama queens but the Asylumites were still going strong. That they would rebound stronger and more closely knit. He vetoed any attempt to have a general guild discussion about what was happening. He wanted only a Officers discussion but since all the officers had left it was futile. He then deleted the Officer forum.

As a result a vast majority of people remaining on Asylumites moved over to the new guild. By that evening Asylumites were a ghost guild with no one left on it. The Lunatics had everyone with only one notable exception, Smoggy.

Day Three
The remaining alts or stragglers on Asylumites had been booted. The guild forums were gone. The last man standing was Smoggy and his alts.

The following message was all that remained:

A Cautionary Tale

Hi there. I'm Smoggy. I once ran this guild called the Asylumites. I worked very hard at building it up to something we were all proud of. My officers and guildmates were dependable and were extremely helpful in making this a terrific guild. According to my guild mates, I did an outstanding job of leading the guild.

Then one day, I made an error in judgement. Thinking my guild mates would would be capable of rational thought, I was sure we could rectify the problem. Instead, some guild officers had mental breakdowns and did some incredibly stupid and ignorant things that only inflamed the issue and created secondary issues. The whole thing snowballed out of control. The situation became ridiculously laughable.

I made several errors in judgement, no question. I put my vision of what the guild could be instead of remembering why we were here in the first place - a place where we, as friends, could hang out and have fun. I lost sight of that. For that, I am truly sorry.

However, I didn't lose sight of what it will take for a guild to succeed in WoW - accomplishing difficult challenges. Unfortunately, I realized that our guild didn't have what it takes to overcome those challenges and if they continued on the path they were on, they never will - whether in a new guild or on their own.

Positivity, cooperation, and structure are absolutely necessary to achieve the goals set forth in WoW. While some members of the guild could see the big picture of what it will take to achieve things in WoW, other members had no clue or no desire to be in this type of environment - to accomplish things in WoW as a guild of this size could do.

I realize now with the personality, maturity, and mental capacity mix of the guild members, this would prove impossible. But that's ok.

Currently, many people are pissed off with me. That's fine. Anger is healthy. I was angry, too. I ask my friends to forgive me for the many stupid mistakes I made in the way things played out. As well, I forgive them for the stupidity on their parts. It's what a real friend will do. Friends forgive friends of their flaws.

People have burned their bridges with me. That's fine. If you ever decide to cool off, as I have, I welcome your friendship again. I understand some of you better now, as perhaps some of you understand that I am a cranky ******* underneath my friendly demeanor. I don't like to be pushed as I'm sure that you don't.

I take full responsibility for the demise of the Asylumites. Again, I am truly sorry for my part in all this. This is not to say that others are innocent in the way things played out. I challenge them to accept some responsibility for their actions that also contributed to blowing this all way out of proportion.

At the end of the day, I tried the best I could. The burden of leadership, even in the most casual of environments, is a taxing thing. Kudos to those who can make it work. As for me, my leadership days are over. I'm relieved and a much happier person because of it. I also learned some valuable lessons.

I'm sure some of you that read this will be ecstatic as to how this all played out. That's fine. Everyone loves to see people fail. I failed, no question - but so did everyone else in the guild.

Positivity, cooperation, and structure. As a guild, we all failed at this.

Friendships will continue, if you wish them to. This is entirely up to you.

Smoggy
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the Asylumites


The Asylumites are no more. Everyone in the Lunatics are doing well, there is no drama. If anything things seem more revitalized.

Anyone that got left out of the loop just log in and /who Lunatics we will be more than happy to throw you an invite.


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#315 Mar 04 2006 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
With that kinds of message posted, it sounds like Smoggy is a giant drama queen himself, and he let the "power" of leadership go to his head. Note my comment is coming from an unbiased outside 3rd party with no interest in WoW specifically.
#317 Mar 04 2006 at 5:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#318 Mar 04 2006 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
The question should really be why is YSU paying to see 5 year old girls at all? Smiley: dubious


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Edited, Sat Mar 4 17:48:55 2006 by Elderon
#319 Mar 06 2006 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
Because I can, yeah yeah yeah.
#320 Mar 06 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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#321 Mar 06 2006 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
Drama queen.
#322 Mar 06 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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There is nothing to see here!!!


Edited, Mon Mar 6 14:48:55 2006 by Smoggy
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#323 Mar 06 2006 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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There is nothing to see here apart from my hurt butt!!!


Edited, Mon Mar 6 14:48:55 2006 by Smoggy


Edited, Mon Mar 6 14:51:02 2006 by Yanari
#324 Mar 06 2006 at 3:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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#326 Mar 06 2006 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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Edited, Mon Mar 6 14:55:05 2006 by Aegis
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