I'm glad you all found a new situation as you weren't happy with the way things were run in the Asylumites. We'll be moving on and the Asylumites are going to be fine. I'm sure you all will be, too, in your new guild.
Actually, I'm really happy the way things have worked out. I will be sorry to see some of you go. Yes, it's a game - maybe I was more focused on that aspect than that of our supposed "friendship" here on the Asylum boards. Well, we see how nebulous that is, didn't we?
But in WoW, we had (and still have, despite some drama queens' negative efforts) a chance to accomplish some really great and fun things in WoW. The guild will be much better for it without the negative, hysterical drama queens. Things will get done. We're still gonna have good times. Nothing you say or do will ever change that.
Sure, I handled things ham-handedly. Sure, I made some mistakes. Bob knows none of you are perfect, either. While I was willing to work things out, the rats left the ship, despite for demands to have guild meetings to address the problems. Instead, you ran away. That's fine.
Some of you feel the Asylum is the particular venue of only Drama Queens. This is false. While, yes, we do have a faction here that are Drama Queens, there is another faction of Grumpy Bastards. Despite what you think, I fall on that side of this Asylum. Gladly so.
The psychotic princess wrote: Quote:
I think it is extremely important to emphasize what I would call Smoggy being a weasel.
He insists that all communication happens in private. This leads to a lot of people not even knowing what is going on. Also in private he is not the "Hallooooo!" Smoggy we all really like. Rather he is a "my way or the highway and if you choose to disagree with me openly or repeatedly I will boot your *** and spin some yarn about why I had to let you go". It is completely night and day.
There were a bunch of concerned officers and players. Myself, Nexa, Nadenu, DSD etc who were aware of these types of actions before they happened and were kind of like "I would never think Smoggy would be that way". It took us by suprise. However when Yanari got the boot we kind of perked up our ears.
I volunteered to sit down and try to chat with the guy. Afterall I helped him start the guild, have been nothing but supportive of the guy. He was completely unreceptive, rude, confrontational and when I pushed the issue in a public forum he started threatening to demote me among other things.
Finally last night while I was in WSG he demanded to talk to me. I told him if he could give me some time I would be more than happy to chat with him. He then was like "I dont have time, I am going to demote you tomorrow unless you shape up". So I logged on this morning. I was demoted, I tried to chat with him friendly like. He was not at all receptive. So I was like F'uck it. It is just a game and I dont care to deal with his bullsh*t so I ended all ties with the problem, other than my ragging on about it on this thread.
edit - Graendel or Grimthor are my toons on Mal.
You're so full of crap it's unbeliveable. Get back on your medication, princess, you're fooking delusional. Sure, it's your word against mine, so I won't bother going into it. The only reason I worked things in private with people to reduce guild drama - my mistake was not going to the officers about Yanari's situation. It was the way I handled the other problems that the guild as a whole didn't have to deal with. I wanted to keep the party going. I never demanded anything from you. I expected loyalty and support in my officers, not a cowardly back-stabbing mental case. Lesson learned here.
DSD the overly-caffeinated harpy wrote: Quote:
No, I knew what he was like. Smoggy pulled the same crap to me as he did to Yan, only instead of being deguilded I was demoted from officership. I just kept it quiet as I didnt want to start any guild drama.
That's your twisted side of it. Now here is my side to this situation for the record: There was another guild problem that I was working and looking to officers for support and despite DSD, I got it. DSD made every effort to butt heads with me during this situation (Aegis brought in a child into the guild and we're an adult guild) for the third time, DSD's toon Meiune kept telling me she didn't want to be an officer nor have any of the responsibilities that go with it. I said, ok, fine, I'll take care of that for you. In public guild chat. She didn't disagree, she didn't say she was kidding.
So in order not to create guild drama, I waited to demote her in the morning since nobody would likely be on to see the demotion message. Then, later that day, she sends me emails asking me why I demoted her?!? ....*boggle*
I explained to her that I was only doing what she wanted. She wanted to be put back as an Officer. I said, well, since you are always saying you don't want the responsibility, that your time is split between EQ2 and WoW, that you can still be the Guild Archivist (i.e., making videos), I felt there wasn't a need to bring her back up as an Officer.
She asked why. I was honest with her. While it's ok to disagree with me on issues, it's not ok and gets very tiresome to be having these knock down, dragged out arguments over the smallest details of a situation that she did often. Especially when I'm trying resolve a situation that needs my attention and the support of my officers. That's her nature and it had no reflection upon her as a great guild mate. But I deemed she wasn't the right fit for an Officer in the Asylumites.
This is my call as Guild Leader. I assess and decide who and who isn't a good fit for an officer position. This isn't different from many guilds. Again, some officers turned out to be lousy officers. Some have turned out to be great. It's a roll of the dice.
Oh and Katie, you were never really a part of the guild, since you made like two appearances at best. You're just a trailer-park bottom feeder that has no life. Both you and Joph should take the time up to look up the word, "martyr." I never said I was one - I said people are angry with me and I was trying to alleviate some of the tension by saying I'm being tarred and feathered - something I'm sure many of your ancestry are familiar with. It was a joke.
Well, now that I feel better, I'm going to climb out of this mudpit of a thread. I won't be back on this thread, as we all need to move on - however, I had every right to respond to the two false characterizations above.
For those of you who wanted to sit on the sidelines and avoid any further drama, it's safe to come out of hiding now. Join whatever guild that pleases you. It's only a game, after all.
Flame on, beetches.