trying to figure out band symbolFollow

i've seen this symbol before as a tattoo, and im trying to figure out the band of it so i can possibley get it too ~


the guy the arrow is pointing too, the symbol is on his back

[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/knuckles2cloud/063_festival_area_27.jpg[/IMG]



and shagrath from dimmu borgir has it on his left arm

[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/knuckles2cloud/shagrath1.gif[/IMG]

anyone ever seen it before or know what band it is?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rosiak.de/Wacken_2003/005_wacken_hauptstrasse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.rosiak.de/Wacken_2003/images.html&h=600&w=800&sz=112&tbnid=T7pqJhKm2dvt4M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=142&hl=en&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwacken%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DG



thats where i got the pics, its from wacken in wacken germany

www.wacken.com

if you dont like metal, you probobly wouldnt like it