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#1 Feb 24 2006 at 12:22 AM Rating: Good
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/02/23/myspace.guns.ap/index.html

For anyone with more legal background than I have (so anyone!), a question.

Colorado law establishes exemptions for minor possession of a handgun on the real property of a parent, guardian, or grandparent, with their consent.

I assume the police in this story got a search warrant based off the photo - I can't see them arresting someone just off a photo on the interweb. But, how would probable cause to get the warrant have been established barring flat out asking the parents?
#2 Feb 24 2006 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
That kid has it all backwards; if you're going to get laid you don't show them the gun till after you meet in person.
#3 Feb 24 2006 at 12:40 AM Rating: Good
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Well, at least he doesn't have any real life friends to go shooting with.

...wait, is that a good thing?
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#4 Feb 24 2006 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
The ironic part is that this is the sort of injustice that drives people to shoot up their school.



When will we learn?
#5 Feb 24 2006 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
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Sounds like it makes for a good story, but I can't imagine what the charge for it might be.
#6 Feb 24 2006 at 2:52 AM Rating: Decent
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some kept their children home after photographs posted on the boy's profile on MySpace.com,


God if only I could have convinced my rents to keep me home from school for something that lame. Smiley: lol
#7 Feb 24 2006 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
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how would probable cause to get the warrant have been established barring flat out asking the parents?


Generally speaking, officers requesting a warrant must submit to a magistrate an affidavit containing sufficient facts and circumstances to enable the magistrate to make an independent evaluation of probable cause. See US v. Ventresca, 380 US 102 (1965). For example, the officers cannot merely present their conclusion that probable cause exists. If the officers’ affidavit of probable cause is based on information obtained from informants, its sufficiency is determined by a totality of the circumstances. Illinois v. Gates, 462 US 213 (1983). The affidavit only needs to contain enough information to allow the magistrate to make a common sense evaluation of probable cause (i.e. that the information is trustworthy).

In this case, it seems that the informants were parents of Evergreen High School students. Their sworn statements of seeing the teen in “photographs posted on the boy's profile on MySpace” would provide the basis for probable cause. The fact that “one photo allegedly showed him lying on a floor surrounded by nine rifles” allows for the inference that the teen may have been in possession of other weapons, such as handguns (which is the basis for the charges). The basis of the warrant need not have been possession of a handgun by a minor. It may have been something far broader and the search warrant may have been issued under the auspices of some general criminal statute in Colorado. Furthermore, the fact that this took place “in the same district as Columbine High School” would add a sensitivity aspect to the “totality of the circumstances” surrounding the case and perhaps lower the scrutiny given to sworn statements from the parents of students. Finally, if the police had asked the defendant’s parents and they had agreed to a search, no warrant would have been needed in any case. It should be noted that the CNN article does not remark whether a warrant was obtained.

This case reminds me of Kate Moss possibly facing drug charges in the UK based on that video of her snorting some blow.
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#8 Feb 24 2006 at 9:23 AM Rating: Default
bah. the police would have been rippeed a new hole if they had this info, didnt act on it, and he killed somebody. damned if they do, damned if they dont.

they did the right thing.

a side note for you teens out there.

displaying yourself as a horney immature teen with a gun is a sure way to make women run the other way. picture an attractive woman saying
"hey, there is a desperate horney teen with a gun, i would like to meet him...."

NOT.
#9 Feb 24 2006 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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People in Colorado, especially in the Denver-metro area, are a little leary of High School kids with guns. At least, ever since the whole Columbine thing happened. During that instance, there were warning signs that those two boys were trouble, and they weren't acted on. I imagine it'll be a long time before that happens around here again.

The kid is a dumbass, plain and simple. Maybe this will wake him up.
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#10 Feb 24 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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1. Photograph self breaking the law
2. Host photo publicly
3. Direct people who know my address to the photo.
4. Profit?

The CNN article is short on detail, such as whether a warrant was executed and who's guns the kid was in possession of. Odds are that if the kid has been picked up and is now in a juvenile detention center, the parents are either very aware that he's been picked up, or they were not on the scene in the first place.

Either way, the argument that he was under parental supervision on a private property falls through. (The law says you have to grant consent, but you can't grant consent in abstentia.)


Can't wait for more info on this story.
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