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#1 Feb 14 2006 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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Most of you probably won't care, but two historic Chicago institutions are closing this year.

The Berghoff restaurant, at the heart of the Loop, has been open and serving German food for over 100 years. Businessmen for generations have had lunch or an after-work beer there. It's got city of Chicago liquor license #1, for bob's sake.

And now, after the current owners announced their retirement, their daughter, great-grandaughter of the founder, says she's closing the restaurant to use the space for her catering company. It's not in financial trouble or anything, she just decided to close it. I'm sorry, but to close The Berghoff, perhaps the most famous restaurant in the city, when your name is Carlyn Berghoff, seems wrong somehow.



The other end of an era is Marshall Field's. This one's even older, dating back some 150 years. Macy's corporation bought out the company last year, and in the fall will rename all Field's stores to "Macy's." Apparently the name that's good enough for our Natural History Museum and the name that graces probably half the "Contributors" plaques across the city isn't good enough for them. They just had to New York-ize it.

From the Walnut Room, to the christmas tree, the Frango Mints, the famous clock, and the Tiffany dome ceiling, the flagship State Street store has been a cherished icon for generations. I'm sure some of those things will remain, but it just won't be the same.



Anyway, not much here but nostalgic curmudgeonry, but I felt like posting it anyway.

#2 Feb 14 2006 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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I heard about he Marshall Fields getting renamed and that stung a bit ...

But how on earth could you close the Berghoff? That is truely criminal. That restaurant has some great memories of my family and some classic family fights (Uncle donating everything to charity and moving to India leaving wife and a 12 year old is right up there).

How soon are they switching operations? I wonder if I can get out there before it gets shut down. EDIT: Apparently it closes up on Feb. 28th. I'm not sure if I can make it to Chicago by then ... man using sick days to have a last slice of nostalgia is kinda sick isn't it?

Baelnic

P.S. Can you imagine what a #1 liquor license would sell for?


Edited, Tue Feb 14 19:24:04 2006 by baelnic
#3 Feb 14 2006 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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Chicago?

That's by Miami, right?
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#4 Feb 14 2006 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Chicago?

That's by Miami, right?


Wow, where do you people learn your geography? Chicago is a state, like Texas or Britian. It's one of those weird southern ones that no one goes too. Nobby probably knows more about it he is from around there.
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#6 Feb 17 2006 at 1:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Anyway, not much here but nostalgic curmudgeonry, but I felt like posting it anyway.
Preach.

Technically, seeing as how Marshall Field's has traded hands a couple times in the past years anyway it wasn't exactly the same as it's ever been but the name change is insulting none the less. I'm exactly stubborn enough to not shop there post name change but, given that I only shop there at Christmas anyway, I guess my boycott won't exactly cripple Macy's Smiley: wink2

As a side note, the Field Museum has a nice exhibition on artifacts and skeletons from Pompeii until early March when it moves to Japan (the exhibit, not the museum). Catch it while you can.
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#7 Feb 17 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
Meh, I never saw the appeal of Marshall Fields anyway. Its a name, for f'uck's sake. They will continue to carry the same merchandise as the rest of the big name department stores at the same inflated prices begging the same question: why? When 90% of the stuff you could buy in there can be had much cheaper elsewhere, mourn it all you want:

The department store is dead.
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Tricky is more bemoaning the change to a local institution in the State Street store than whether or not he can buy Waterford crystal. Even if the store stays much the same, it's the same loss of local culture you see when stadiums are bought out and renamed by flash in the pan technology companies.

It's not a point I much care to argue since it's not the sort of thing folks will ever compromise on. Some people think it's a loss, some don't care. I've heard folks say that the people of Chicago are fiercely proud of their local institutions and some think ridiclously so. Again, there's no real way to argue that although I think it's that local culture -- be it in landmark locations, local store chains, architecture, food stuffs, etc -- that makes one city different from the next and gives Chicago a feel different from that of New York, LA, Cincinnati, Houston, Miami, Boston, Indianapolis, etc. Not that those are all homogenous; I'd assume (and hope) that the people of Miami and Houston treasure unique things about their homes as well.

Indianapolis is just a hole though
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#9 Feb 17 2006 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
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I'll say this. It's not often that I get a sense of real attachment from Americans to a lot of things, There are the classics, the Empire State, the Statue of Liberty and Coca-Cola, the Grand Canyon and such but out of all the places I have visited, Chicago and New York seem to have the strongest sense of history and cultural cohesion. Even DC is a kind of cultural anomaly, because the kinds of icons that really matter will always be there (no one's going to demolish the Washington monument, although it would do wonders for traffic) and the ones that change are usually assumed with the same grim resolve as the changes in the legislative branches.

New York seems to cherish its uniqueness, its place as the capital of the world, so to speak, but Chicago seems to have this really inward-looking sense of its history not as it relates to everyone else, but only to itself. It's an interesting cultural worldview. I can honestly say that when I heard about the store closing, I thought "big deal", but then again, I don't come from a place where any business has had a real impact on the culture or my character.

Too bad. Hopefully something better will take its place, only real constant is change and all that jazz. Whaddya do.
#10 Feb 18 2006 at 3:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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The thing is, to folks who live in Chicago, it's not just renaming the store. Marshall Field's isn't so much a name as it is a symbol of Chicago heritige. Hell, ask most Chicagoans where the White Sox play, and they'll either tell you, "some s[i][/i]hit hole on the south side of town," or "Kmisky." I doubt that anybody from the area would even think of calling it "U.S. Celluar Field."

It's not about the name. It's about the history that it represents, and the cultural impact it has on the region.
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#11 Feb 18 2006 at 4:20 AM Rating: Good
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Chicago also has a severe inferiority complex in the shadow of "fly-over" land between New York and L.A. As such, we try to hold on to and boast about all the things we have that are the best, or the biggest, or the tallest.

Marshall Field's getting bought out hurts because the actual man Marshall Field was very important to the history of the city. The fact that it's being renamed Macy's, a New York symbol, is salt in the wound.

#12 Feb 18 2006 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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well at least we'll always have detroit. Anyone able to afford any of those buildings is too afraid to go there.
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