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#78 Feb 12 2006 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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You sir are a sympathathiser for the muslim fanatical agenda.


This is hilarious. "You disagree with me, so you must be one of THEM, or sympathetic to THEM, and I now feel perfectly okay in condemning you as being less than human."

What a small, weak response.


Edited, Sun Feb 12 18:35:28 2006 by Samira
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#79 Feb 12 2006 at 6:58 PM Rating: Default
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Then think about killing them for no good reason, though they have harmed no one and nothing. You are explicitly proposing genocide, because of the actions of a few.


A FEW!??!!? Get the **** out a few! The majority is under a extremist mindset, and you can sit here and say a few?!?!?! These people speak of acts of violence against Christians and jews in their mosque on a regulated basis! Sometimes even in our backyards! In London, Even here in the US! I have a muslim friend who is very much against his extremist heritage to which he even proclaims is the MAJORITY! He spoke of these acts of violence which his family belong to, and their mosque are devoted to. Your arguments might hold if you actually had some idea of what you were arguing and to what cause you are arguing for.

Just because someone is born into a society that is in a large part about destruction and hatred doesnt mean its justified. Thats like saying a KKK member raised his child, an intelligent child who had accomplished much and was somewhat innocent to go out and stab every black he ever comes into contact with! "Ohh he was raised to know no better he cant be held accountable" Upbringing is your scapegoat factor. There is no innocence in this world to which you propose and tend to think of the select few in muslim society who dont fit the extremist bill.

We cannot sit and distinguish the few that are innocent. These are the same people who are rioting against a government that has no accountability for what is published in the media. It was somewhat poor taste of the publisher if you disregard the fact of freedom of press, and the garbage those towelheaded ********* produce. Where is their sense of responsibility? You act as if these people dont wear the stains of many years of bloodshed, that their religion doesnt speak of violence to all of those that refuse to abide by the same beliefs. You call me ignorant yet you defend the exceptions, you defend the minority the statistics! These people as a whole are a sore on the face of the earth. I am sorry but I only care enough to deal with these people as a whole. If they dont like what they have known and grow to love, if those dont follow the same paths as their brothers they have the ability to do something about it, but until there is a substantial uprising worth acknowleding I will sit and point out the facts to which worth calling out.

#81 Feb 12 2006 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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If you stopped posting on allakhazam _RIGHT NOW_, your postcount would be stay at 1337.
Wouldn't that be great?
#82 Feb 12 2006 at 7:31 PM Rating: Default
I think you take me far too much to heart. I mean really you seem as if you are growing emotionally attached to me in some sense to really care what one insignificant view is opposed to another.
#83 Feb 12 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ok eaons does have a slightly valid point in some respects. What most of us know about the muslim people is what is largely published. We have more examples of extremist muslims then we have of those who condemn them. Since we dont have a number count it leads alot of people to believe that they are largely extremist. Since we will never have media commenting the good ones in a higher degree then the bad ones, the last option is for the upstanding people to stand up and throw down these extremists, instead of just spouting "they are bad and most of us of us aren't like that."

Many religions have gone through times like this, and the upstanding portion had to rise up and truly condemn their extreme factions. Time will heal all wounds, and eventually the muslim faith will recover from this, but they have to act, ignoring them wont make them go away.
#84 Feb 12 2006 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
Well, there is really only one way to solve a cartoon war..

Both sides will draw giant mechanoid fighting robots that can only be piloted by 15 year old japanese boys for some odd reason. These drawn robots will battle it out in each of the countries major cities(because the desert is currently occupied by american forces). If the islamic community's robot wins, then all the denmark woman must quit their jobs and cover their faces. If the denmark robot wins, then all the islamic males have to grow penises and learn how to take a joke.

Battles will begin next friday!
#85 Feb 13 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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What most of us know about the muslim people is what is largely published. We have more examples of extremist muslims then we have of those who condemn them.


It makes for better television.

In time you'll find that things "everyone knows" are often patently false. Do you still think early north-american settlers bought the island of Manhatten off the Indians for beads and trinkets?

Most Muslims are violent extremists, advocating suicide bombing, death to Israel, and death to America -- in the same way that most Germans were hard-line *****, roasting Jews in their ovens and working hard for Aryan racial purity.

..by which I mean, most weren't. Judging the whole by the actions of the few that get press coverage isn't particularly fair.


Now if you're advocating shooting the folks that get out there and protest, that throw firebombs at embassies, that plan terrorist attacks and that call for the destruction of other nations -- that I can definitely go for. I like people to be directly responsible for their actions. If we lobbed a cruise missile into the next group of Muslim fanatics got together to burn our flags and chant "Death to America", I'd likely write it off as dramatic irony.

But please, take care not to extend your diatribe to cover the entirety of a given people.



On a similar note, I have a new co-worker in the office. He's Pakistani; he came to America in 2000 for college and has been here since. Given that he had his primary education in Pakistan, I asked him for his view on Kashmir.

I was treated to a rather interesting Pakistani history lesson, wherein I learned all about how the Hindu maharajah of Kashmir signed away his protectorate's independance, cutting a deal with Lord Mountbatten (the Viceroy of India in '47) that allowed Indian military to move in and take control of a region with a majority Muslim population.

Modern history has a different view on this, of course, but that's what they teach in Pakistan. It's not wholly true, much like the news media you read every night that implies that all Muslims are suicide bombers. It's simply the perspective that's being pushed. Learn to look past it.


On a related (and interesting) note, said co-worker mentioned that the people that helped him most when he arrived in this country were actually a group of Indian guys who were attending the same college as he. At first he found this to be utterly bizzare as he had been raised to think of India as an enemy. It took him a little time to figure out that People are People pretty much everywhere you go, despite the official positions and hardline posturing of the various States involved.
#86 Feb 13 2006 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Lyroc wrote:

The answer to this problem is simple take all the people who are so caught up in their beliefs that they cant laugh at themselves or contemplate for even a second that their views might be wrong, whether they be muslim, christian, jewish, even atheist and wipe them off the face of the planet so we dont have to deal with their extremist bullsh*t. Why the hell cant people just let others live their lives without constant attacks for thinking differently.




Your solution to hardliner fanatics seems rather hardline and fanatic don't you think?


love it, rated up on the "show the pot his true colour" meter.
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