I wouldn't blame them for being insulted--not for a comedic portrayal of their prophet--because Dogma is a terrible pop movie.
Doh, failure to read post dates. Still, Dogma is a terrible movie independent of time.
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Dogma is a terrible movie independent of time.
Dogma is an awesome movie.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
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Dogma is a terrible movie independent of time.
Dogma is an awesome movie.
One of my favorites, actually.
Oooops.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 5:01pm by Belkira
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 5:01pm by Belkira
Kelvy wrote:
Dogma is an awesome barely movie.
Dogma falls into the same category as Office Space and Idiocracy, which I sadly half expect you will consider a compliment.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 5:02pm by Allegory
Allegory wrote:
Dogma falls into the same category as Office Space and Idiocracy, which I sadly half expect you will consider a compliment.
You strike me as someone who is slightly autistic when it comes to empathy and humor so your view on this is hardly an eyebrow raiser.
would that category be satirical comedy? or.....?
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 6:06pm by Kelvyquayo
I'm Catholic and I enjoy this movie so much, mainly because the movie pokes fun at all the stuff that I either don't understand or find amusing about the Catholic faith. I heart George Carlin in this movie so much.
And it doesn't hurt to have Salma Hayek wearing pigtails, glasses and a tiny bikini in this movie either.
And it doesn't hurt to have Salma Hayek wearing pigtails, glasses and a tiny bikini in this movie either.
Not a genre. They all share similar traits: a boring plot that doesn't know where it is going, forced jokes on the caliber of Mad TV, and pathetic social commentary. Fans tend to treat all three like cult movie seven though they are largely mainstream.
Mostly though it's that they are entirely unfunny. Everything else can be forgotten or forgiven since they are intended to be comedies, but they aren't funny. The jokes are forced, predictable, and hugely tame for supposedly being dark humor.
Seriously:
Oh ho, people being platypus enthusiasts. That is just so random it is hilarious. I mean, people... forming a club... for platypuses! Golly gee can you imagine?
Watching Dogma is like reading Ctrl+Alt+Del.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 5:25pm by Allegory
Mostly though it's that they are entirely unfunny. Everything else can be forgotten or forgiven since they are intended to be comedies, but they aren't funny. The jokes are forced, predictable, and hugely tame for supposedly being dark humor.
Seriously:
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Disclaimer: 1) a renunciation of any claim to or connection with; 2) disavowal; 3) a statement made to save one's own ***; 4) a foresaid word for not being blamed later.
Though it'll go without saying ten minutes or so into these proceedings, View Askew would like to state that this film is from start to finish a work of comedic fantasy, not to be taken seriously. To insist that any of what follows is incendiary or inflammatory is to miss our intention and pass undue judgment; and passing judgment is reserved for God and God alone (this goes for you film critics too... just kidding).
So please before you think about hurting someone over this trifle of a film, remember: even God has a sense of humor. Just look at the Platypus. Thank you and enjoy the show.
P.S. We sincerely apologize to all Platypus enthusiasts out there who are offended by that thoughtless comment about Platypi. We at View Askew respect the noble Platypus, and it is not our intention to slight these stupid creatures in any way. Thank you again and enjoy the show.
Though it'll go without saying ten minutes or so into these proceedings, View Askew would like to state that this film is from start to finish a work of comedic fantasy, not to be taken seriously. To insist that any of what follows is incendiary or inflammatory is to miss our intention and pass undue judgment; and passing judgment is reserved for God and God alone (this goes for you film critics too... just kidding).
So please before you think about hurting someone over this trifle of a film, remember: even God has a sense of humor. Just look at the Platypus. Thank you and enjoy the show.
P.S. We sincerely apologize to all Platypus enthusiasts out there who are offended by that thoughtless comment about Platypi. We at View Askew respect the noble Platypus, and it is not our intention to slight these stupid creatures in any way. Thank you again and enjoy the show.
Oh ho, people being platypus enthusiasts. That is just so random it is hilarious. I mean, people... forming a club... for platypuses! Golly gee can you imagine?
Watching Dogma is like reading Ctrl+Alt+Del.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 5:25pm by Allegory
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
And it doesn't hurt to have Salma Hayek wearing pigtails, glasses and a tiny bikini in this movie either.
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If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Then find someone that life has given vodka and have party.
This establishment does not serve women. You must bring your own.
This establishment does not serve women. You must bring your own.
I have oft felt the same about Monty Python... sometimes.
Doug, Assassin Reject wrote:
I didn't figure out it was a necro bump until Sora's post about Clerks 2.Same thing.
I also am offended by Allegory's lumping of Office Space and Idiocracy into the same category *cry*
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Allegory wrote:
Not a genre. They all share similar traits: a boring plot that doesn't know where it is going, forced jokes on the caliber of Mad TV, and pathetic social commentary. Fans tend to treat all three like cult movie seven though they are largely mainstream.
Are you going to tell now us again that your opinoin is absolutely correct and not subjective in the lease?
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Are you going to tell now us again that your opinion is absolutely correct and not subjective in the lease?
Not in this instance.
TirithRR wrote:
I also am offended by Allegory's lumping of Office Space and Idiocracy into the same category *cry*
I'd give it 2 to 1 that you are meaning Office Space is better than Idiocracy.
Office Space forgets halfway through about the hypnotism. The movie forgets about its premise.
Allegory wrote:
Office Space forgets halfway through about the hypnotism. The movie forgets about its premise.
I never actually realized that.
Though, I always thought the hypnotism was what caused his new found laziness, and that then caused his rise in the office (while of course his friends were given the boot).
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Yes. He is hypnotized to be completely relaxed, and the only one who could release him from the spell died after casting it. Because of his lax demeanor Peter is able to rise in rank and importance. Then the writers forget all about the hypnotism and Peter is no longer under the hypnotic spell for no reason at all. It is never referenced again.
Allegory is of the firm belief that anything he believes to be funny or relevant does, in fact, make it funny or relevant. Anyone who disagrees is either wrong or pathetic.
Oddly, that makes him fit in quite well here.
Oddly, that makes him fit in quite well here.
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
I figure that isn't a mistake and is rather trying to say something about the human psyche.
If anything, in that regard, I would blame it for trying to take itself too seriously.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 7:06pm by Kelvyquayo
Kakar the Great wrote:
Allegory is of the firm belief that anything he believes to be funny or relevant does, in fact, make it funny or relevant. Anyone who disagrees is either wrong or pathetic.
This can be more generalized to say that Allegory is mostly unable to realize the difference between fact and his own opinion. Mostly.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
I figure that isn't a mistake and is rather trying to say something about the human psyche.
I might believe that if it was in any way tied to the second half of the film. Once they come up with the plan relaxation is no longer a plot device, motif, or idea in the movie.
This isn't Shakespeare. It's a comedy catered to those who feel the drudgery of a nine to five office job. It's a teen stick-it-to-the-man movie with the setting tweaked for an older audience.
Kakar wrote:
Allegory is of the firm belief that anything he believes to be funny or relevant does, in fact, make it funny or relevant. Anyone who disagrees is either wrong or pathetic.
No, but I do understand why you would think this.
Allegory wrote:
Kelvyquayo wrote:
I figure that isn't a mistake and is rather trying to say something about the human psyche.
I might believe that if it was in any way tied to the second half of the film. Once they come up with the plan relaxation is no longer a plot device, motif, or idea in the movie.
This isn't Shakespeare. It's a comedy catered to those who feel the drudgery of a nine to five office job.
The hypnotic spell supposed to take his stresses away or make him not care about his job or something to that effect? Well he never did get back to the old way that he was, did he? nor did he fret about losing his job... instead he got a job as a construction worker which could STILL be an effect from the hypnosis as he still does not care about working in a job where he has to think too hard..
to further break it down one could wonder a to the nature of WHAT was affected by the hypnosis.. such as which aspects of his psyche that would MAKE him more relaxed.... I'm thinking that it is the PRIDE aspect.. as in; his PRIDE in his work was removed thus allowing him to have no qualms about losing his job and going into a blue collar job; a job that is usually considered a LOWER class profession.. whereas before he would never consider doing it even though he knew that he would be more content doing it.
after all of this is spelled out the hypnotism becomes trivial.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 7:09pm by Kelvyquayo
Kelvyquayo wrote:
The hypnotic spell supposed to take his stresses away or make him not care about his job or something to that effect?
Never mind, I had believed that you had seen this movie. Yeah, I'm not going to argue against blind conjecture.
Oh yeah, gee , I forgot that hadn't actually seen the movie at all and was just making everything up
take his stresses away or make him not care about his job or something to that effect?
how does "take stress away" and "make not care" NOT equate to "relaxing"?
or is it the [rhetorical]question mark that's upsetting you?
If you don't feel like discussing a movie you hate just say so, don't throw a tantrum and make up some BS about somebody.
Did you cut yourself yet?
take his stresses away or make him not care about his job or something to that effect?
how does "take stress away" and "make not care" NOT equate to "relaxing"?
or is it the [rhetorical]question mark that's upsetting you?
If you don't feel like discussing a movie you hate just say so, don't throw a tantrum and make up some BS about somebody.
Did you cut yourself yet?
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However as Nobby or Tarv would mention you need to work with the community, isolate the extremists and cut off their pool of potential recruits by showing the extremists for what they are.
Powah to da people!
Dogma is in my top 10 favoUrite films btw.
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Dogma is in my top 10 favoUrite films btw.
How comPLETEly unsurprising /yawn, since the mediocrity of your Garfield avatar speaks volumes for your sort; those who are so gullible to believe that the things that they laugh at are actually funny.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 7:44pm by Kelvyquayo
Wow this is an old thread. I was confused about this Danish incident until I read the "offending pictures" and realized that this happened a while ago.
By the way, Dogma is an awesome film.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 7:48pm by Siesen
By the way, Dogma is an awesome film.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 7:48pm by Siesen
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