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What part of "Besides, that's not relevant to my point" did you not get?

It doesn't matter which party appointed him. It doesn't matter if he's a hard core Democrat, or hard core Republican, or total moderate. His job is political. His job is to keep order on the grounds of US capitol buildings and facilities and to do so in a discrete manner.

He's appologizing publically because he failed to do that in this case. Not because his officers did anything different they've done in previous identical situations, but because in this case, due to the person affected, it was not "discrete".


Ask yourself a simple question. If it had just been Congressman Young's wife who'd been asked to leave the gallery at the SOTU speech, do you think there would have been more then a minor footnote in the press? And do you think there would have been any kind of public appology from the Capitol Police?


It's a politically noisy issue because the Left has made it a politically noisy issue. The response from the Police Chief is because of that level of noise, not because his officers actually did anything proceedurally wrong. It's blatantly obvious that this is the case.


And again. I don't really care about what Gainer says. My opinion is that she did not have a "right" to do what she did, and there was nothing wrong with removing her. The kind of argument you're using ultimately ends up in a "lowest common denominator" set of rules being applied. If we're unable to single out people who are, by their own statement intending to sidetrack the president's SOTU speech, then that means the only way to deal with the situation is to simply never allow any guests to attend the event. Is that really "fair"? Everyone else managed to behave like adults. Why should they be punished?


How about being "fair" by requiring that people follow some pretty basic social rules when attending a function like that? Is that really so much to ask? Selfishly insisting that you should get to do anything you want to do just doesn't fly in situations like that. I'm really not sure how Sheehan thought she'd gain any support with a stunt like this, and I'm *really* not sure what the Democrats thought they'd gain by bringing her along. Stuff like this just makes the moderates (who the Dems should be trying to win back) cringe with horror and pull away from anything having to do with Sheehan. Not exactly the front person I'd be running here. But then nothing the Dems have been doing for the last 5 years have made any real sense. The party is imploding on itself IMO and will either have to reinvent itself, or be replaced by another one before it'll gain success again.

*cough* *bullsh[/b]it*

There would have been an appology. But you would never have heard (I put the word "public" in there for a reason) it because you would never have heard it happened because it wouldn't have been a big media event. Get it?

Sadly, you probably don't...



Do you just keep repeating made up stuff for no reason? She was not arrested "for no reason". She was arrested because she was asked to leave an event due to inappropriate attire and refused to do so. Every article about this stated the reason she was arrested. Did you just not pay attention?

Just because you don't agree with the reason does not mean there isnt' one. If you want to argue that refusing to obey the instructions of police isn't sufficient cause for arrest, then you go right ahead. But that would be a hard argument to make given that people do get arrested for just that all the time.





You did. By implication. You are defending a person's right to show up at an event with a specific intent to violate the rules of the event and then refuse to leave when caught and asked to leave. Isn't that "selfishing insisting that you should get to do anything you want"? That seems to fit pretty well IMO.




Just making an observation. Are you really naive enough to think that the Dem who invited Cindy didn't know something like this might happen? That's what I'm commenting on. It's a pretty idiotic move. The moderates in this country are already getting fed up with the shenanegans of the Dems. These kinds of things *only* get the hard Left riled up. Everyone else just kinda sighs and goes on about their business. I'm frankly amazed that the Dems don't seem to have caught on yet that the tactics they keep using are just pushing voters away from them.

Trust me. Most American's really aren't sitting in their living rooms right now thinking "OMG! The Bush administration is evil. Look what they did to Cindy Sheehan! That clinches it! I'm voting Democrat...".

That's why it was a dumb move. This stunt was almost as damaging to Democrats as the actions of Kennedy and Kerry last week. Almost...